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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 28 2017 21:39 GMT
#661
On March 01 2017 06:37 LegalLord wrote:
Turns out the "12 universes" are just one in a set of universe-sets and there's a lot of other universe-sets, each of which has a being even more important than Zeno.


Yes, and each of these sets belong to a subset, which, it turns out, are all subordinate to...

Arale.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6273 Posts
February 28 2017 21:55 GMT
#662
On March 01 2017 06:36 Mohdoo wrote:
Still not gonna be surprised when "Zeno's dad" or some shit shows up. Remember when this guy was the top of the pack?

[image loading]

Haha that was filler iirc
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2017 23:06 GMT
#663
On March 01 2017 06:36 Mohdoo wrote:
Still not gonna be surprised when "Zeno's dad" or some shit shows up. Remember when this guy was the top of the pack?

[image loading]

Oh it surely will happen like that. His Dad will be like "omg zeno why did you destroy your toy again, i bought you 64 universes and now there are only 12 left"
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 01 2017 02:11 GMT
#664
If 6 and 7 are pairs why is the female broly in another universe wouldnt they have sayians as well but im guessing in that universe the crazy broly stuff happened as well but she managed to kill everyone (sayian wise)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 02:18:32
March 01 2017 02:18 GMT
#665
man...I skip intros to shows like Super because I feel like it spoils the experience of seeing new bad guys and being surprised by new characters. But I've seen multiple people mention female Broly and I am beyond stoked and want to google her so bad. Broly is one of my favorite bad guys because of his sheer rage. I'm so curious what she is like.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 01 2017 02:35 GMT
#666
On March 01 2017 11:18 Mohdoo wrote:
man...I skip intros to shows like Super because I feel like it spoils the experience of seeing new bad guys and being surprised by new characters. But I've seen multiple people mention female Broly and I am beyond stoked and want to google her so bad. Broly is one of my favorite bad guys because of his sheer rage. I'm so curious what she is like.

Watch the intro to find out lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 01 2017 02:37 GMT
#667
Careful what you google cuz of . . . um . . yeah . . . lewdness
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 09:13:25
March 01 2017 09:12 GMT
#668
On March 01 2017 11:11 Shock710 wrote:
If 6 and 7 are pairs why is the female broly in another universe wouldnt they have sayians as well but im guessing in that universe the crazy broly stuff happened as well but she managed to kill everyone (sayian wise)

That's not even confirmed, it's just speculation based on where she showed up during the intro.
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17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
March 01 2017 09:58 GMT
#669
It would be something too if female 'broly' comes from universe 11. And she was imprisoned by the pride troopers for genocide of the saiyan planet in their universe.

And why toppo interrupts the fight is because all he knows is that in their universe someone who transformed into a super saiyan gets overwhelmed by the surge in power and go crazy.

But goku shows him that it can be controlled.

Now, she is brought to the tournament and she has to fight for survival of their universe by toppo.

Its just a random thought.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
March 01 2017 11:18 GMT
#670
My understanding is that the universes are very different from one another. So there shouldn't be saiyans in universe 11. Only in 6 and 7.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 01 2017 11:57 GMT
#671
On March 01 2017 18:58 17Sphynx17 wrote:
It would be something too if female 'broly' comes from universe 11. And she was imprisoned by the pride troopers for genocide of the saiyan planet in their universe.

And why toppo interrupts the fight is because all he knows is that in their universe someone who transformed into a super saiyan gets overwhelmed by the surge in power and go crazy.

But goku shows him that it can be controlled.

Now, she is brought to the tournament and she has to fight for survival of their universe by toppo.

Its just a random thought.

but hasnt toppo seen gohan already do super sayian and not turn into a crazy person
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
March 01 2017 12:41 GMT
#672
On March 01 2017 20:57 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 18:58 17Sphynx17 wrote:
It would be something too if female 'broly' comes from universe 11. And she was imprisoned by the pride troopers for genocide of the saiyan planet in their universe.

And why toppo interrupts the fight is because all he knows is that in their universe someone who transformed into a super saiyan gets overwhelmed by the surge in power and go crazy.

But goku shows him that it can be controlled.

Now, she is brought to the tournament and she has to fight for survival of their universe by toppo.

Its just a random thought.

but hasnt toppo seen gohan already do super sayian and not turn into a crazy person

He even showed some interest in his ability to transform to increase his power.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 02 2017 01:06 GMT
#673
Where are people getting info about this Toppo person? Did I miss an episode or something?
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 01:18:25
March 02 2017 01:17 GMT
#674
On March 02 2017 10:06 Mohdoo wrote:
Where are people getting info about this Toppo person? Did I miss an episode or something?


There was information published about who he was awhile ago with some extra details.

If you don't keep track of that kind of stuff then his name was said by the Kai of U11 in the Buu vs Basil episode.
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 07:25:05
March 02 2017 07:24 GMT
#675
On March 01 2017 20:57 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 18:58 17Sphynx17 wrote:
It would be something too if female 'broly' comes from universe 11. And she was imprisoned by the pride troopers for genocide of the saiyan planet in their universe.

And why toppo interrupts the fight is because all he knows is that in their universe someone who transformed into a super saiyan gets overwhelmed by the surge in power and go crazy.

But goku shows him that it can be controlled.

Now, she is brought to the tournament and she has to fight for survival of their universe by toppo.

Its just a random thought.

but hasnt toppo seen gohan already do super sayian and not turn into a crazy person


Yeah sorry. I ended up skipping thru a few thoughts I had about the super saiyan thing.

If bergamo does have a real means to "copy" an opponents techniques, then he could try copying super saiyan and end up going "wild". Wilder than he is since he is not used to it. that would make Toppo jump into the ring.

Again, it is a thought only. It is most likely wrong. But I kind of wonder why another Saiyan from Universe 6 would be brought by Champa if they have no means to match SSGSS that they are clearly aware of. But if its team battle, then maybe they could accept the loss in one team but win in the others.

I do wonder, what if in one of the exempt 4 universes that's where the "GT" universe exist and that's why its being held back so they dont need to show it right now. But not where Goku and Vegeta are alive but rather their descendants. Since it did appear there that the universe achieved some form of lasting peace. That could allow them to develop.

One way of acknowledging that it exists while at the same time saying its not part of Universe 7. And it would be further ahead in their "timeline".

Again, another random thought.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 10:11:23
March 02 2017 10:07 GMT
#676
is super sayian a techique tho? isnt it more of a natural biological thing. Like all their flying, ki-blasts and gokus instant transmission seem more like techiques, like anyone can kinda learn that (in this universe look at videl she has some ki control to fly) but its not like she could ever turn super sayian no matter how good she was that learning techniques.

Also shouldnt super sayian rose be in line for the next transformation, it might just be the mastered form of ssblue +kaioken, it was slightly purplish red when goku did it vs hit but the refined form just might be rose (and with all the transformations being based off base power it might explain why black's rose was only slightly above ssblue due to his base power not having whis training)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
March 02 2017 12:19 GMT
#677
On March 02 2017 19:07 Shock710 wrote:
is super sayian a techique tho? isnt it more of a natural biological thing. Like all their flying, ki-blasts and gokus instant transmission seem more like techiques, like anyone can kinda learn that (in this universe look at videl she has some ki control to fly) but its not like she could ever turn super sayian no matter how good she was that learning techniques.

Also shouldnt super sayian rose be in line for the next transformation, it might just be the mastered form of ssblue +kaioken, it was slightly purplish red when goku did it vs hit but the refined form just might be rose (and with all the transformations being based off base power it might explain why black's rose was only slightly above ssblue due to his base power not having whis training)


I agree that super saiyan is not a technique you can learn but is specifically something only a saiyan can do/achieve.
But that rule applies to universe 7

Universe 11 doesnt even use ki to fight and still can keep up at least to certain levels. So maybe thats why the specific mention about not being able to sense their ki. Again a maybe.

I cant recall if during gohans training with picollo if there was a mention of animals not using or having ki. Im drawing a blank there. Which is why i am speculating that universe 11 fighters being animal hybrids is the reason they cant sense ki from them yet they use some form of energy blasts.

Again, a random thought.

But i did find it odd that poison blast ended up clashing with a ki blast.

As for rose, well the anime specifically mentioned that black chose the color for his form. I thought that meant he chose it instead of blue as the color. Does that mean saiyans should be able to chose the hair color when they ascend to ssgss? Thats what i took from it since it was still gokus body.

Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 02 2017 12:24 GMT
#678
ah yes, the wiki for super sayian rose says that your right, its just blue form but black has a pink colour attached to the form rather than blue.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
March 02 2017 12:41 GMT
#679
I thought it was rose because Zamasu was not a mortal but a Kai/God and that it was that difference between god and mortal that changed the color.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
March 02 2017 12:45 GMT
#680
On March 02 2017 21:41 Thezzy wrote:
I thought it was rose because Zamasu was not a mortal but a Kai/God and that it was that difference between god and mortal that changed the color.

That's how I understood it as well.
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