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hugedong
Profile Joined June 2010
United States510 Posts
September 20 2011 01:51 GMT
#621
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
September 20 2011 01:58 GMT
#622
[QUOTE]On September 20 2011 10:42 lizzard_warish wrote:
I'm just waiting for skylar and ted to die. I chant it in my head every episode. Why oh lord, why do they LIVE?[QUOTE]

haha i wish this too. ted is just a moron and skylar while she appears smart, is just a loose cannon.
she advocates every little caution when it comes to family like buying a car for her son or not drinking too "expensively" but when it comes to a man she slept with, who basically sealed his own death sentence saves him and reveals she has 600 thou to blow. i wish walt would just punch the bitch in the face.

@ clink
well as far as significance goes,i don't think so. i think the rarity of the drink was what tipped the edge for him. if you look at the episode again the translation was "impossible!" and yeah watching him go first was what did it. someone should have told don eladio to watch an old zorro movie. same scenario occurred where zorro poisoned both drinks.
if it's too good to be true, it probably is.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 02:06:36
September 20 2011 02:01 GMT
#623
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 20 2011 02:11 GMT
#624
On September 20 2011 11:01 saocyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.

The Cartel is pretty much a military force.... pick them off one by one? LOL..
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24805 Posts
September 20 2011 02:12 GMT
#625
On September 20 2011 11:11 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 11:01 saocyn wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.

The Cartel is pretty much a military force.... pick them off one by one? LOL..

Well if that were viable, I'd think the Mexican police would have already done it XD
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saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 02:19:26
September 20 2011 02:14 GMT
#626
On September 20 2011 11:11 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 11:01 saocyn wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.

The Cartel is pretty much a military force.... pick them off one by one? LOL..


and someone who arguably has as much money if not more by now can't buy an equal or greater military force?
who has the best assasin that knows all the other ones? gus does. check
who has fast food chains that bring in even more money? gus does. check
who has the purest coke? gus does. check

with those 3 you really think gus cant fight back in military power if he so chooses? the money he has can definitely buy more fire power and most assuredly a higher quality of assassins. if don eladio's sniper can almost pick off mike, jessie and anyone else he chooses, surely a trained assassin over time or many of them, could produce same result.
more like what you're saying is LOL and incomprehensible.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
September 20 2011 02:16 GMT
#627
On September 20 2011 08:13 saocyn wrote:
let's assume gus has a couple of 100 millions, probably half a billion. assuming he was willing to give 50 million to the cartel to stop their attacks, i can't understand why he doesn't just fight back.
if he had 50 million to blow, which seems like nothing to him, why doesn't he have more men at his disposal? he literally bent over and accepted defeat cause a couple of guys got picked off by snipers. since they want the formula we can assume they won't kill gus, jessie or walt, he has nothing to lose then if he fights back.

from the laywer's statement in a previous episode mike knows all the top assasins since he is one, with 50 million why doesn't he just hire himself all the great assasins and take down the cartel? there is one big thing lacking in breaking bad and that's not enough variety in people.


Maybe because he's also running a legitimate business in the US which can be easily targeted by the police, etc if given a tip by the Cartel?
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
September 20 2011 02:17 GMT
#628
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.

Gus obviously should have just called Sam Fischer or Jason Bourne up and asked if they could go take down the entire Mexican mafia. Or maybe Gus should get in an animus and learn how to be an assassin through his ancestor's memories so he could just do it himself, except he would do it with guns and knives and martial arts instead of poison!

BTW, they're making meth, not cocaine.
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
hugedong
Profile Joined June 2010
United States510 Posts
September 20 2011 02:22 GMT
#629
On September 20 2011 11:01 saocyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.


That would have absolutely nothing to do with Walt and Jesse, the people this entire series revolves around.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
September 20 2011 02:26 GMT
#630
On September 20 2011 11:16 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 08:13 saocyn wrote:
let's assume gus has a couple of 100 millions, probably half a billion. assuming he was willing to give 50 million to the cartel to stop their attacks, i can't understand why he doesn't just fight back.
if he had 50 million to blow, which seems like nothing to him, why doesn't he have more men at his disposal? he literally bent over and accepted defeat cause a couple of guys got picked off by snipers. since they want the formula we can assume they won't kill gus, jessie or walt, he has nothing to lose then if he fights back.

from the laywer's statement in a previous episode mike knows all the top assasins since he is one, with 50 million why doesn't he just hire himself all the great assasins and take down the cartel? there is one big thing lacking in breaking bad and that's not enough variety in people.


Maybe because he's also running a legitimate business in the US which can be easily targeted by the police, etc if given a tip by the Cartel?


you think police have more evidence than someone say a D.E.A agent does?
if hank can't convince them to get a warrant on this guy, i don't think anyone else is able to.

and if you didn't know, the cartel telling the police is essentially asking them to get caught to. if gus were to get caught which is highly unlikely since i doubt he left any evidence behind, he's going to give up all the names of the cartel also. obviously if tipping off the police to take out the competitors were so easy, it would have been done. the reason no one does it is because they risk getting caught themselves.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
September 20 2011 02:27 GMT
#631
On September 20 2011 11:22 hugedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 11:01 saocyn wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.


That would have absolutely nothing to do with Walt and Jesse, the people this entire series revolves around.


then learn to read the above post before posting.
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 02:31:08
September 20 2011 02:28 GMT
#632
On September 20 2011 11:14 saocyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 11:11 ShadeR wrote:
On September 20 2011 11:01 saocyn wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.

The Cartel is pretty much a military force.... pick them off one by one? LOL..


and someone who arguably has as much money if not more by now can't buy an equal or greater military force?
who has the best assasin that knows all the other ones? gus does. check
who has fast food chains that bring in even more money? gus does. check
who has the purest coke? gus does. check

with those 3 you really think gus cant fight back in military power if he so chooses? the money he has can definitely buy more fire power and most assuredly a higher quality of assassins
more like what you're saying is LOL and incomprehensible.

You realize the Cartels have the entire Mexican military under their payroll, right? I don't care if Gus has Mike, more money (which he doesn't btw), or the purest meth (not coke). That has nothing to do with anything.

Do you really not know how much different Mexico's organized crime is compared to ours? And seriously, "higher quality of assassins?" -.-
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
Wyzguy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 02:39:14
September 20 2011 02:38 GMT
#633
On September 20 2011 11:27 saocyn wrote:
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On September 20 2011 11:22 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 11:01 saocyn wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.


That would have absolutely nothing to do with Walt and Jesse, the people this entire series revolves around.


then learn to read the above post before posting.



To be quite honest, you sound as if you never watched an episode of Breaking Bad besides the most recent one. If Gus picked off a single cartel, the cartel would of OBVIOUSLY known it was him and started an all out war, which is what Gus wanted to prevent. Gus killed them the easiest way because he was able to take out Don Eladio and the chemists of the cartel; preventing a war.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 20 2011 02:41 GMT
#634
@saocyn

You are under a serious misapprehension if you believe Gus has the capability to start a war with the Cartel. How can he possibly do what National forces cannot do. Fighting Cartels is like fighting the Viet Cong or the Taliban. You don't win.

Gus has no sphere of influence. Also if he does have the resources to hire a private army like Blackwater he is effectively starting a war with a sovereign state (Mexico) at the same time.
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
September 20 2011 02:43 GMT
#635
Maybe Gus will get Walt to create chemical weapons, and use them to fight the cartel. That'd be badass :p
Wishing you well.
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
September 20 2011 02:47 GMT
#636
On September 20 2011 11:43 Kyhol wrote:
Maybe Gus will get Walt to create chemical weapons, and use them to fight the cartel. That'd be badass :p

oh man, that will be the definition of jumping the shark T_____T.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 03:02:33
September 20 2011 02:55 GMT
#637
On September 20 2011 11:38 Wyzguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 11:27 saocyn wrote:
On September 20 2011 11:22 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 11:01 saocyn wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.


That would have absolutely nothing to do with Walt and Jesse, the people this entire series revolves around.


then learn to read the above post before posting.



To be quite honest, you sound as if you never watched an episode of Breaking Bad besides the most recent one. If Gus picked off a single cartel, the cartel would of OBVIOUSLY known it was him and started an all out war, which is what Gus wanted to prevent. Gus killed them the easiest way because he was able to take out Don Eladio and the chemists of the cartel; preventing a war.


to be quite honest, i don't give a fuck what you think cause it's all pure speculation. if your so assumed military was so powerful how do you suppose gus is going to get away with taking out their leader? do you honestly think the rest of the cartel, the ones which he didn't kill is going to let him get away with this? by your logic their military might as well start a war now for what he has done. picking off the leader with a sniper is no different than killing him with poison, he's still dead and the rest of the cartel still know. you act as if a guy who has control of a huge force, who gets picked off isn't going to enrage his army start an all out war anyway. you're fucking moronic. it looks like YOU didn't watch damn fucking episode that's for sure.

OBVIOUSLY gus had only decided to off the don if he only knew he could get away with it. clearly this has evaded your logic. if it wasn't the case any means of killing them would have suffice in terms of revenge. if he honestly knew the don had a military force that will seek revenge and he wasn't going to get away with killing the don, he wouldn't have done it.

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Pharaun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany150 Posts
September 20 2011 02:56 GMT
#638
anyone mentioned what is going to happen to gus? everyone thinks he will be perfect fine? the thing about active charcoal makes sense, but normale you take more then a pill, more like 100+grams or so. esp. when u took a serious poison.
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saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
September 20 2011 02:59 GMT
#639
On September 20 2011 11:28 Pyskee wrote:
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On September 20 2011 11:14 saocyn wrote:
On September 20 2011 11:11 ShadeR wrote:
On September 20 2011 11:01 saocyn wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:51 hugedong wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote:
well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better.

i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs...

don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol?

don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story.
but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again.

and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded.


Pretty sure Gus would have been blindfolded the first time he was there. Don Eladio also waited for Gus to drink first. Did you even watch the ep?

I'm sure 3 people stripped of weapons could have easily fought their way out of the leader of the mexican cartel's house ez pz.


more like did you even comprehend my post?
what i suggested was to NOT go there in the first place, and hired professional assassins and let them do the work. finding their guys individually 1 by 1 over a course of time picking them off would have been the same result as don eladio's main body guard doing to gus with the sniper situation. none the less what i'm saying is just pure speculation.

The Cartel is pretty much a military force.... pick them off one by one? LOL..


and someone who arguably has as much money if not more by now can't buy an equal or greater military force?
who has the best assasin that knows all the other ones? gus does. check
who has fast food chains that bring in even more money? gus does. check
who has the purest coke? gus does. check

with those 3 you really think gus cant fight back in military power if he so chooses? the money he has can definitely buy more fire power and most assuredly a higher quality of assassins
more like what you're saying is LOL and incomprehensible.

You realize the Cartels have the entire Mexican military under their payroll, right? I don't care if Gus has Mike, more money (which he doesn't btw), or the purest meth (not coke). That has nothing to do with anything.

Do you really not know how much different Mexico's organized crime is compared to ours? And seriously, "higher quality of assassins?" -.-


that's assuming the entire mexican "military" is corrupt and is under the command of don eladio alone and only him.

last time i checked it has to do with EVERYTHING. just because you're to damn delusional to see that fact doesn't mean it doesn't exist. clearly the purest meth in this series pretty much dominates the drug scene and also the amount of money each competitor is making. if it clearly wasn't outdoing the don, he wouldn't have even threatened gus nor take notice for that matter.


Dojous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States36 Posts
September 20 2011 03:04 GMT
#640

who has the purest coke? gus does. check



Your statements are invalid, saocyn...
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