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Dub_doubt
United States86 Posts
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Zozo
Brazil2579 Posts
2) Mike and Gus are not the same person, one took the glass away and the other (possibly) pointed the gun. Don't rule it out yet. | ||
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chocopaw
2072 Posts
http://blogs.amctv.com/breaking-bad/2011/09/season-4-episode-10-online-extras.php | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On September 20 2011 06:30 Uncultured wrote: Oh... My... GOD Skyler is so fucking dumb. Why on earth would she tell her old boss? He's a complete liability now. If they wanted Jesse to die they would have just let him drink the alcohol. Might as well since if he does go to jail and is charged for tax evasion questions will be asked where the money came from anyway. He should do the right thing and pay the taxman. Some friends are retarded and difficult though. | ||
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IamAnton
Canada335 Posts
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Pyskee
United States620 Posts
On September 20 2011 06:57 Baarn wrote: Might as well since if he does go to jail and is charged for tax evasion questions will be asked where the money came from anyway. He should do the right thing and pay the taxman. Some friends are retarded and difficult though. Hope he ends up getting killed. Getting caught cooking the books, getting $600,000 out of fucking nowhere -- literally a get out of jail free card -- and then buying an SLS? What a fucking asshole. That guy has been nothing but sketch since the beginning. Would anything actually have happened to Skylar if Ted went to jail? It seems her alibi of being a "dumb blonde" would have kept her from getting audited in this situation. | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:04 IamAnton wrote: cant beleive skylar takin walts 600k to give to the boss she was just f*ckin. Not to mention she's a fucking hypocrite. She was lecturing at Walt about not getting caught with money and how they have to be careful with money and bitched at Walt for buying their son a brand new Challenger, now she just wires 600k to her former boss/friend and now tells him she was responsible for wiring that money. The bitch is just ridiculous. | ||
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jungsu
United States279 Posts
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Al Bundy
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
if he had 50 million to blow, which seems like nothing to him, why doesn't he have more men at his disposal? he literally bent over and accepted defeat cause a couple of guys got picked off by snipers. since they want the formula we can assume they won't kill gus, jessie or walt, he has nothing to lose then if he fights back. from the laywer's statement in a previous episode mike knows all the top assasins since he is one, with 50 million why doesn't he just hire himself all the great assasins and take down the cartel? there is one big thing lacking in breaking bad and that's not enough variety in people. | ||
micronesia
United States24805 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:13 saocyn wrote: let's assume gus has a couple of 100 millions, probably half a billion. assuming he was willing to give 50 million to the cartel to stop their attacks, i can't understand why he doesn't just fight back. if he had 50 million to blow, which seems like nothing to him, why doesn't he have more men at his disposal? he literally bent over and accepted defeat cause a couple of guys got picked off by snipers. since they want the formula we can assume they won't kill gus, jessie or walt, he has nothing to lose then if he fights back. from the laywer's statement in a previous episode mike knows all the top assasins since he is one, with 50 million why doesn't he just hire himself all the great assasins and take down the cartel? there is one big thing lacking in breaking bad and that's not enough variety in people. I'm guessing this is because the Don would have been much less exposed to attack/defeat if Gus hadn't rolled over and made it seem like he had given in. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:15 micronesia wrote: I'm guessing this is because the Don would have been much less exposed to attack/defeat if Gus hadn't rolled over and made it seem like he had given in. Yeah this is basically it, since it was confirmed Gus was "more than just partners" with the guy that Hector killed in the previous episode in the pool, obviously his motive is revenge. I knew they were all going to die, Gus doesn't forget or put up with bull.He's been basically offing the Cartel members systematically since you can remember. One of my favorite if not favorite character. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On September 20 2011 06:30 Uncultured wrote: Oh... My... GOD Skyler is so fucking dumb. Why on earth would she tell her old boss? He's a complete liability now. If they wanted Jesse to die they would have just let him drink the alcohol. Some good character development for Skylar would be when she decides she needs to kill him. =] | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
what i'm curious about is when is walt going to tell his son whats really going on | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs... don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol? don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story. but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again. and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded. | ||
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micronesia
United States24805 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote: don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol? He was probably blindfolded the last time he was brought there also. | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:07 jungsu wrote: Gus reminds me of this guy from the Wire so much. Love it. gus is far more intelligent as far as the plot shows. the guy you're speaking of hires 1 fat body guard who's incapable of doing anything yet alone protect him and he can get traced down by omar who we can assume, isn't as smart. there's nothing intelligent about going in and doing a shoot off. 50% of the time you're going to die regardless of how smart you are lol... | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:32 micronesia wrote: He was probably blindfolded the last time he was brought there also. wouldn't have mattered since he escaped from 20 years ago. i'm sure someone as intelligent as gus wouldn't have went there without accounting for the variable of location. | ||
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lizzard_warish
589 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote: 1) Uhh you think a sniper would work on 15 ex[or current] drug users, sociopaths, all trigger happy and armed? They'd shoot Gus, even more so when the dude literally wasnt being shot at whatsoever. Moreover, how do you get a team of snipers in and around the cartels facility? Thats blatantly impossible.well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better. i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs... don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol? don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story. but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again. and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded. 2) How is it retarded to blind fold them in going to the factory? We've seen Gus at the mansion, not the factory. We have no reason to think the two are the same place. We have no reason to assume Gus wasnt blind folded in arriving and leaving the last time he was there. 3) Everyone- everyone- knows theres a possibility the alcohol is poisoned. The nod by the security guard was that it wasnt a bomb or something associated. I.e yes I have looked at it, you may open it. Hence why he was still suspicious and wanted Gus to drink with him. Seriously, you have the option between an entirely reasonable security measure with an entirely reasonable response to it [drinking with your enemy] and the option that everyone in the show save Gus is functionally retarded, and you interpret it as the latter in order to validate claims of plot errors? 4) And what would happen after he killed mike and Gus? There aint other top agents in Gus' enterprise who are aware of his existence? How does he get out of the country, hiding all evidence that he was their killer, ecetera? Jesus christ. | ||
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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:30 saocyn wrote: well i just watched episode 10. while it is a pretty good plan to place poison in a very expensive bottle, and to some what subdue the possibility of death with an antidote before hand, i still think my plan would have been better. i mean at most how many did he kill off with poison? 10-15? imo you can easily pick off their guys 1 by 1 especially with professional assassins if the count only totaled to about 15. the one guy who was picking off most of gus's men to begin with happened to be his main body guard and he got taken out by getting choked from behind with a wire...it's not like they're fighting well trained and intelligent people, half these guys are fat obese thugs... don eladio's men blind folding gus jesse and mike was retarded as well since gus has ALREADY been there. like lol? don eladio was also afraid to get poisoned he suspected it, but right before he drank he had a chemist on his side which he insulted. if the chemist was informed well enough he would definitly have told the don there was a possibility there was poison in the bottle and have it tested, i mean if they can test the purity of coke, it should be easy. after that? game won. 3 v 15 men end of story. but since the plot is highly revolved around those 3, it won't ever happen. plotline shield wins again. and if jessie was as smart, he would have gotten out of there with them (gus and mike) the first chance he got is to blow off gus and mike's head since gus clearly can't fight and mike is already battle wounded. 10-15 of the the big wigs. Not just 10-15 random guys in the cartel. It was made to be a big event within the cartel, so it was a huge victory. They may not be well trained and intelligent themselves, but they have to the money to keep themselves protected through others. Their approach was excellent, and he planned on puking afterwards so he must know that that'd be sufficient to keep him alive. Professional assassins may sound like a good idea, but unless they all act at the same time they just give the cartel time to prepare once word gets out that they're getting dropped. The drink held some significance to Don Eladio, which is saying something considering how much money the man had. It was probably very rare/expensive. Sure, the chemist could've thought to test the drink, but Gus taking the first drink was enough for him. I do agree that they should've been a bit more suspicious, but Gus taking that drink was the big thing. | ||
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