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chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
September 19 2011 10:10 GMT
#561
Oh god that was so intense... what a badass operation. Can't wait for the seasons finale.
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shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
September 19 2011 10:42 GMT
#562
i don't think mike was pulling a gun on jesse... why would he pull a gun there when they were trying for a quick escape ?

also, he raised the gun in the direction of jesse probably because he couldn't extend his arm towards the shooter due to the car door, so had to extend his arm to the side.

gus has been impressed with jesse over the last few episodes. no reason for the writers to instill that into the show if the plan was simply to kill jesse anyway...

i believe that gus wants to turn jesse against walt, and his plan is working thus far.
Dusker
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States17 Posts
September 19 2011 10:43 GMT
#563
It makes no sense for Mike to be pointing the gun at Jesse. He was just resting his arm on the car door, about to get into the seat and reacted to the gunman/ being shot.
With three episodes left I'm wondering how they will wrap up the season. It's always a surprise. I am actually wondering if Walt will end up killing Hank whether directly or indirectly.
Also wondering if Walt and Jesse will make up somehow before the last episode.
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arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 11:46:34
September 19 2011 11:45 GMT
#564
He 100% points his gun at Jesse. Watched it several times and he points his gun at Jesse, for sure.
He looks him in the back, raises his gun at Jesse, then gets shot.

He doesn't even look at the shooter, until he gets shot...
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Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
September 19 2011 13:54 GMT
#565
It's just camera angles, if they wanted to kill him they could have just let him drink the poison.
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
September 19 2011 13:59 GMT
#566
On September 19 2011 22:54 Robstickle wrote:
It's just camera angles, if they wanted to kill him they could have just let him drink the poison.


then they wouldn't have extra help to get to the car
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HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
September 19 2011 14:00 GMT
#567
On September 19 2011 16:15 kaisen wrote:
The best episode of this season.

Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 15:37 ShadeR wrote:
On September 19 2011 15:25 Klogon wrote:
I am actually curious how they will wrap up this series now. Probably with Walter's death from cancer? I hope it's not a fairy tale ending.

But I'm pretty sure you can't just kill a bunch of people and expect the Cartel to be done. If that was the case, there wouldn't be such a war right now. Maybe the Cartel will live on but the new leader will no longer have a problem with Gus? Who knows.

Seems like all of the top brass were killed, this should at least guarantee there wont be immediate repercussions due to power struggle.

Gus said all of Don Eladio's capos are dead, so yeah, the cartel is pretty much finished.


I sincerely doubt that the Cartel is finished. Even if Don Eladio is the supreme leader, even if that were likely given that criminal organizations tend to have fairly nebulous power structures, I really doubt that the Cartel would just roll over and die at the death of about 20 people. At the worst, they'll be out of the picture for a while, but I certainly wouldn't count them out. More likely, I'd bet there's some even higher level of power under whom Don Eladio was working, and the rabbit hole goes deeper.
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Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
September 19 2011 14:09 GMT
#568
On September 19 2011 22:59 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 22:54 Robstickle wrote:
It's just camera angles, if they wanted to kill him they could have just let him drink the poison.


then they wouldn't have extra help to get to the car


Okay, there's still a lot of ways to do it that would be far easier than shooting him in the back in the middle of their escape.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
September 19 2011 14:13 GMT
#569
WTF, that was awesome!
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esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
September 19 2011 14:41 GMT
#570
ok after watching it in slo mo about 100x here is my take.

his gun was out and ready during the whole escape. just before he is shot he faces the shooter. his arm does go up slightly, indicating he might have gone for jesse, or was he just getting into the car normally? it is really indecisive.

however, if you look at the season as a whole, im not sure it makes sense to kill jesse. gus has been training jesse for this very moment. he recognized that he needed another warrior down there in mexico with him. as an audience, we've been prepped perfectly for this. gus's face when jesse was being the boss in the mexican lab i think says it all.

while i think it is naive to believe jesse means anything to gus, i do believe that gus has bigger plans for jesse; taking over as the head chef.

so while it is certainly in the realm of possibility, and some evidence in the slow motion, im going to say no.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
September 19 2011 15:09 GMT
#571
It sure looks like that Mike was trying to shoot Jesse. Really great episode and so far great fucking season, despite the slow start.

So painful to wait for a week for next episode..
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
September 19 2011 15:21 GMT
#572
On September 19 2011 13:57 nxiety wrote:
If you watch the scene frame by frame(not just slow motion but literally frame by frame), Mike opens the car door and as soon as Jesse is looking away from the car, lifts his gun quickly and directly at Jesse.

He then looks to the left 90 degrees while still pointing the gun at Jesse but is shot before he has a chance to respond. He -jerks- to the left, an unnatural movement, as if caught by surprise. Rather than lifting his gun to point at the gun man. If you look at the lighting and the reflection of the gun you can much easier see the direction it's pointing in the 2nd frame of that picture. The 3rd frame shows him after he was shot/jerked almost 90 degrees to the left and his arm is following slower than his body moved.

Why wouldn't they kill Jesse? He's no longer needed. They needed him to cook the meth and to help escape to the car. Once that's all done, they don't need him any longer. They could just tell Walt that "complications" came up, Walt was already thinking Jesse betrayed him - which may have been planned as Walt suspected when they first took Jesse under their wing.

edit: The direction of the gun man is evidenced by how Mike is shot/falls against the car and most importantly the many seconds of Jesse firing after having turned more than 90 degrees(as the gun man was running towards their left as soon as he exited the door which is where he first shot from.)

Animated GIF of Mike aiming at Jesse.

The gif shows pretty clearly that yeah mike does point the gun at jesse he never looks directly at him. His head is moving around the whole time before he is shot. Way i see it is he is lifting his gun to cover jesse getting to the other side of the car. Anyway, if they really wanted to kill him why wouldn't they just let him drink?
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SpiffD
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1264 Posts
September 19 2011 15:24 GMT
#573
Sick episode. I don't agree that Mike was going to shoot Jesse.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 15:29:24
September 19 2011 15:24 GMT
#574
On September 20 2011 00:21 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 13:57 nxiety wrote:
If you watch the scene frame by frame(not just slow motion but literally frame by frame), Mike opens the car door and as soon as Jesse is looking away from the car, lifts his gun quickly and directly at Jesse.

He then looks to the left 90 degrees while still pointing the gun at Jesse but is shot before he has a chance to respond. He -jerks- to the left, an unnatural movement, as if caught by surprise. Rather than lifting his gun to point at the gun man. If you look at the lighting and the reflection of the gun you can much easier see the direction it's pointing in the 2nd frame of that picture. The 3rd frame shows him after he was shot/jerked almost 90 degrees to the left and his arm is following slower than his body moved.

Why wouldn't they kill Jesse? He's no longer needed. They needed him to cook the meth and to help escape to the car. Once that's all done, they don't need him any longer. They could just tell Walt that "complications" came up, Walt was already thinking Jesse betrayed him - which may have been planned as Walt suspected when they first took Jesse under their wing.

edit: The direction of the gun man is evidenced by how Mike is shot/falls against the car and most importantly the many seconds of Jesse firing after having turned more than 90 degrees(as the gun man was running towards their left as soon as he exited the door which is where he first shot from.)

Animated GIF of Mike aiming at Jesse.

The gif shows pretty clearly that yeah mike does point the gun at jesse he never looks directly at him. His head is moving around the whole time before he is shot. Way i see it is he is lifting his gun to cover jesse getting to the other side of the car. Anyway, if they really wanted to kill him why wouldn't they just let him drink?


Maybe because they needed Jesse to protect/carry Gus till they get to the car? Dunno, but time will tell hopefully!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 15:37:44
September 19 2011 15:35 GMT
#575
I wonder, if the pills Gus took were really an antidote. Maybe he messed it up by throwing it up or something or the poison is just strong enough to cause a lot of pain even with an antidote.

Edit: it looks like Mike is going to shoot Jesse because he's going into the car ass first, while holding a gun in the air. If he was going to shoot him, he could've easily done it while Jesse was trying the car doors.
DDKz
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia188 Posts
September 19 2011 16:26 GMT
#576
I noticed the Mike 'bout to kill Jesse thing the first time I saw the scene, I think there's a pretty good chance he was about to shoot him but it doesn't really make much sense, they could easily kill Jesse any time and leaving his body in Mexico with the murdered cartel would bring up some serious questions that Gus could easily avoid by taking Jesse home and disposing of his body quietly.

On September 20 2011 00:35 Sotamursu wrote:
I wonder, if the pills Gus took were really an antidote. Maybe he messed it up by throwing it up or something or the poison is just strong enough to cause a lot of pain even with an antidote.


The pills weren't an antidote, just helps to reduce the effects of the poison. Throwing up the majority of the poison was what really saved Gus I think, the pills helped subside the full effects.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
September 19 2011 16:29 GMT
#577
I think it was just a scene they decided not to do another take on and mike just gave the scene away. The dialogue in the show didn't make sense to them offing jesse and then mike and gus escaping into the sunset. Should ask the podcast about that scene to clear things up.
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butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
September 19 2011 16:55 GMT
#578
Couldn't believe the episode was over when the credits came. This episode was so intense the time was going by so fast >,< And wow Bryan Cranston is an unbelievable actor - incredible break down scene.

This whole series is magnificent. <3
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
September 19 2011 17:05 GMT
#579
I don't think he was trying to shoot him, it looks like he's reacting to seeing the guy about to shoot him. He's not looking at Jesse, he's looking past him to the left, at presumably the other guy.
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pres.sure
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:41:48
September 19 2011 17:41 GMT
#580
If Gus want to see Jesse dead, he would not have prevented him form drinking the poison.
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