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tok
Profile Joined April 2010
United States691 Posts
September 19 2011 03:12 GMT
#541
Probably the most interesting episode so far. This season is so amazing and suspenseful. Once more I cannot wait for next Sunday!
oncearunner
Profile Joined October 2010
190 Posts
September 19 2011 03:32 GMT
#542
amazing ending. did anyone else think that gus was going to the bathroom to throwup?

not trying to toot my own horn, but yeah saw that coming ^.^
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
September 19 2011 03:34 GMT
#543
On September 19 2011 12:32 oncearunner wrote:
amazing ending. did anyone else think that gus was going to the bathroom to throwup?

not trying to toot my own horn, but yeah saw that coming ^.^


ya know for a second i thought he was going to drown himself in the toilet lol, then i seen the finger in his mouth and it clicked haha.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 19 2011 03:43 GMT
#544
On September 19 2011 12:32 oncearunner wrote:
amazing ending. did anyone else think that gus was going to the bathroom to throwup?

not trying to toot my own horn, but yeah saw that coming ^.^


It was pretty obvious considering how many hints they gave. Gus swallowing a strange pill before the meeting. Mike saying "I promise you this, either we're all leaving here or none of us are." Don Eladio waiting for Gus to drink first before he did. I was watching who drank and saw the one guy that didn't drink and knew Mike was going to have to deal with him.
NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
September 19 2011 04:02 GMT
#545
The whole poisoned drink was fairly obvious just like what BlackJack said. Saw it coming for awhile, but this adds now to the fact that Gus and Mike will owe their life to Jesse now and forgive both Jesse and Walter and let them work in the lab without worries now that Jesse proves his worth and Walter only really has Hank that hinder Gus's trust in Walter.
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
September 19 2011 04:06 GMT
#546
On September 19 2011 12:05 OrangeSoda wrote:
anyone remember the name of the bottle of liquor? also amazing episode.


Zafiro Añejo

Amazing episode, i wanted to clap as soon as he put his fingers down his throat.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
September 19 2011 04:07 GMT
#547
That was some badass shit, gus kills the guy at the same pool where is friend was killed years earlier. I thought it was a great episode, at least the last part Skylar still sucks, as does walt's son.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
nxiety
Profile Joined July 2011
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 04:20:33
September 19 2011 04:10 GMT
#548
Gus/Mike don't owe their life to Jesse. Gus won't see it that way, Mike may though.

Mike was about to shoot Jesse in the back when he was shot.

3 shots showing Mike about to shoot Jesse.
paradox_
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 04:46:58
September 19 2011 04:45 GMT
#549
I don't see why they would kill Jesse. If they were going to kill someone it would be Walt. Mike risked his life earlier to save Jesse. Gus and Mike are capable killers but they have yet to kill someone without a reason.

Great episode overall. Really have to hand it to the show and its writers considering their budget was cut and they still just get better and better.

edit: Also those shots don't really make sense could just be Mike turning around when he heard some movement. Guns were already drawn and even if they wanted to kill Jesse why would you cut your team 1 man short before you've reached safety. Clearly moves Gus/Mike make are calculated.
mczbot
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany70 Posts
September 19 2011 04:46 GMT
#550
On September 19 2011 13:02 NonConGuy wrote:
The whole poisoned drink was fairly obvious just like what BlackJack said. Saw it coming for awhile, but this adds now to the fact that Gus and Mike will owe their life to Jesse now and forgive both Jesse and Walter and let them work in the lab without worries now that Jesse proves his worth and Walter only really has Hank that hinder Gus's trust in Walter.


if someone owes someone his life, its actually jesse oweing gus. afterall, gus put himself in danger with this stunt, while he could just have sold jesse and be done with it. it doesnt matter if it was just a personal vendetta of gus or business related, in the end gus safed jesse, not the other way around
nxiety
Profile Joined July 2011
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 05:09:12
September 19 2011 04:57 GMT
#551
If you watch the scene frame by frame(not just slow motion but literally frame by frame), Mike opens the car door and as soon as Jesse is looking away from the car, lifts his gun quickly and directly at Jesse.

He then looks to the left 90 degrees while still pointing the gun at Jesse but is shot before he has a chance to respond. He -jerks- to the left, an unnatural movement, as if caught by surprise. Rather than lifting his gun to point at the gun man. If you look at the lighting and the reflection of the gun you can much easier see the direction it's pointing in the 2nd frame of that picture. The 3rd frame shows him after he was shot/jerked almost 90 degrees to the left and his arm is following slower than his body moved.

Why wouldn't they kill Jesse? He's no longer needed. They needed him to cook the meth and to help escape to the car. Once that's all done, they don't need him any longer. They could just tell Walt that "complications" came up, Walt was already thinking Jesse betrayed him - which may have been planned as Walt suspected when they first took Jesse under their wing.

edit: The direction of the gun man is evidenced by how Mike is shot/falls against the car and most importantly the many seconds of Jesse firing after having turned more than 90 degrees(as the gun man was running towards their left as soon as he exited the door which is where he first shot from.)

Animated GIF of Mike aiming at Jesse.
Horst
Profile Joined November 2010
338 Posts
September 19 2011 05:08 GMT
#552
On September 19 2011 13:46 mczbot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 13:02 NonConGuy wrote:
The whole poisoned drink was fairly obvious just like what BlackJack said. Saw it coming for awhile, but this adds now to the fact that Gus and Mike will owe their life to Jesse now and forgive both Jesse and Walter and let them work in the lab without worries now that Jesse proves his worth and Walter only really has Hank that hinder Gus's trust in Walter.


if someone owes someone his life, its actually jesse oweing gus. afterall, gus put himself in danger with this stunt, while he could just have sold jesse and be done with it. it doesnt matter if it was just a personal vendetta of gus or business related, in the end gus safed jesse, not the other way around



I don't really see how it would have been a problem, Jesse living in Mexico cooking meth.

He didn't really have much of a life where he was, and Don Eladio looked like a guy who would give him pretty much whatever he wants, as long as he keeps cooking meth for him. Other than not seeing Walter anymore, and having to learn spanish, his life wouldn't be so different.
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 05:19:13
September 19 2011 05:15 GMT
#553
The balls required to pull that off.. holy shit.

Also, clearly, Mikes gun was about to travel much further to aim at the guy that shot him.
Quote?
Horst
Profile Joined November 2010
338 Posts
September 19 2011 05:18 GMT
#554
Just realized... obviously mike/gus didn't plan on killing Jesse.

Otherwise, he could have let jesse drink that alcohol, and they would have been rid of him then and there.
NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
September 19 2011 05:41 GMT
#555
On September 19 2011 14:18 Horst wrote:
Just realized... obviously mike/gus didn't plan on killing Jesse.

Otherwise, he could have let jesse drink that alcohol, and they would have been rid of him then and there.


yeah and it confuses me that it looks like Mike was about to pull the gun on Jesse. I mean why bother preventing Jesse from drinking that if they were going to plan on killing him anyways? Maybe just so they have a cleaner escape? More I look at that scene the more I believe that Mike was actually pulling the gun on Jesse (what other reason would he have to pull the gun up?. Cant believe I missed that the first time around
PoopLord
Profile Joined May 2010
537 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 05:56:33
September 19 2011 05:56 GMT
#556
Wow, my favorite character is going to die T_T. Also, yeah I think they kept Jesse alive just to guarantee an escape.

I'm guessing it's going to be the season finale and then they will sort the whole Hank situation next season.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
September 19 2011 06:25 GMT
#557
I am actually curious how they will wrap up this series now. Probably with Walter's death from cancer? I hope it's not a fairy tale ending.

But I'm pretty sure you can't just kill a bunch of people and expect the Cartel to be done. If that was the case, there wouldn't be such a war right now. Maybe the Cartel will live on but the new leader will no longer have a problem with Gus? Who knows.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 19 2011 06:37 GMT
#558
On September 19 2011 15:25 Klogon wrote:
I am actually curious how they will wrap up this series now. Probably with Walter's death from cancer? I hope it's not a fairy tale ending.

But I'm pretty sure you can't just kill a bunch of people and expect the Cartel to be done. If that was the case, there wouldn't be such a war right now. Maybe the Cartel will live on but the new leader will no longer have a problem with Gus? Who knows.

Seems like all of the top brass were killed, this should at least guarantee there wont be immediate repercussions due to power struggle.
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 07:16:53
September 19 2011 07:15 GMT
#559
The best episode of this season.

On September 19 2011 15:37 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 15:25 Klogon wrote:
I am actually curious how they will wrap up this series now. Probably with Walter's death from cancer? I hope it's not a fairy tale ending.

But I'm pretty sure you can't just kill a bunch of people and expect the Cartel to be done. If that was the case, there wouldn't be such a war right now. Maybe the Cartel will live on but the new leader will no longer have a problem with Gus? Who knows.

Seems like all of the top brass were killed, this should at least guarantee there wont be immediate repercussions due to power struggle.

Gus said all of Don Eladio's capos are dead, so yeah, the cartel is pretty much finished.
Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
September 19 2011 07:33 GMT
#560
On September 19 2011 15:25 Klogon wrote:
I am actually curious how they will wrap up this series now. Probably with Walter's death from cancer? I hope it's not a fairy tale ending.

But I'm pretty sure you can't just kill a bunch of people and expect the Cartel to be done. If that was the case, there wouldn't be such a war right now. Maybe the Cartel will live on but the new leader will no longer have a problem with Gus? Who knows.

Walt had just seen the doctor's two episodes ago and they told him he was still in remission. I highly doubt it'd be cancer.

For the ending though, what if both Mike and Gus die? I couldn't see Jesse taking over, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he tried. Still unlikely though.

I think Walt will just go back to living a normal life, or try.
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