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Breaking Bad Season 4 - Page 26
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pique
143 Posts
oh, lets not mention hanks crazed mineral obsession and marie's random klepto shit. | ||
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Ygz
England370 Posts
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landmarktiger
226 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I am really interested to know what the cartels demands are - i think their real demands are to kill walt but they didnt show the part where Gus told Jesse about their demands. | ||
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Holdinga
Bulgaria300 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + . However, I wasnt happy how things finished in the end. In the earlier seasons you could get a feeling that Walt has stronger feelings for Jesse than for his own son. They seemed very close. I feel that Gus had intended to try to make a fight between them two for a long time now, and he succeeded. I just really hope they somehow settle down and be close again because I really liked the connection between an over ~55 year old guy and a guy in his early twenties. I hope they can just have a nice talk on what every one of them is experiencing because they dont seem to share this in the past few episodes. They have both been through a lot and have to understand it. I really liked the scene at Gus's house, even though I think that they could have done a little better. | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
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zeizei
Finland36 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Let's not be suprised that Walter is falling apart. He has been for the last 4 seasons. I don't think season 5 is gonna end well for Walt. | ||
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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:29 LaLuSh wrote: This show's writing is starting to go down the drain. It's damn annoying watching Walter flip-flop between conflicting personality traits every other episode. Dude might as well be bipolar. In the first two seasons they could get away with attributing it to stress, since his lapses wouldn't occur more than 2-3 times a season. It's how a normal person might have behaved, and the show was all the more realistic for it. But now... it's like he's logical, calm, deductive Walt in one episode. Then flipped out, paranoid, idiot Walt the next. And this is repeated ad infinitum. Happens to most shows where the writers have to churn out more content than they've got ideas to cover. Makes for trash plot development. By the 15th time someone acts retardedly out of character you lose hope and stop watching. I didn't like the last episode either. I'm getting fucking annoyed everytime Walt open his mouth. I agree with this LaLuSh. + Show Spoiler + For now I want to see Gus use his money supply to start a war and really fuck up the Cartel. I really start to like the Gus character ever since u got to see his sad past history | ||
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Zyrae
France42 Posts
They really managed to make Walt look like a "bad" guy, but I'm a little annoyed by the way he changed, I feel like he's too clever to be so blind and self centered about everything, it doesn't really make any sense. I understand he fears for his life and blablabla, but that should only be an opportunity to think about it more. He really treated Jesse like shit too when Jesse was in post-kill trauma, when it was obviously not the best move. Then again with my plot changes it'd end up in a disney musical, not a drama, so... | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
On September 13 2011 00:17 zeizei wrote: (╯°□°）╯︵ O | ||
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Robstickle
Great Britain406 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:29 LaLuSh wrote: This show's writing is starting to go down the drain. It's damn annoying watching Walter flip-flop between conflicting personality traits every other episode. Dude might as well be bipolar. In the first two seasons they could get away with attributing it to stress, since his lapses wouldn't occur more than 2-3 times a season. It's how a normal person might have behaved, and the show was all the more realistic for it. But now... it's like he's logical, calm, deductive Walt in one episode. Then flipped out, paranoid, idiot Walt the next. And this is repeated ad infinitum. Happens to most shows where the writers have to churn out more content than they've got ideas to cover. Makes for trash plot development. By the 15th time someone acts retardedly out of character you lose hope and stop watching. Even when he's being logical and "calm", he's still terrified. For example, he was perfectly sane with Hank in both episodes yet essentially shitting himself over what Gus would do... He can hold himself together some of the time, but not all the time. I'm pretty that's what most people who are struggling to hold themselves together are like. On September 12 2011 20:20 pique wrote: so they introduce some random sub-plot referencing a seasons old other sub-plot and resolve it within the episode? lazy writing, or is this not going to go away so easily? regardless, i don't think the show needs another whacky tangent. hank+walt+gus+jesse+cartel dynamic has plenty of development left in it, as we saw at the end of 09. oh, lets not mention hanks crazed mineral obsession and marie's random klepto shit. Apart from it hasn't been resolved, it shouldn't take the feds long to realize that things still don't add up and as Skylar said that will result in her phone being tapped. As a matter of fact, when her moron of a former boss can't pay the money he owes, they'll definitely start looking into things again. | ||
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Darkzler
Sweden58 Posts
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phyren
United States1067 Posts
On September 13 2011 02:19 Robstickle wrote: Apart from it hasn't been resolved, it shouldn't take the feds long to realize that things still don't add up and as Skylar said that will result in her phone being tapped. As a matter of fact, when her moron of a former boss can't pay the money he owes, they'll definitely start looking into things again. I think they made it pretty clear that she is going to pay off his debts to avoid arousing further inquiries from the CID. I imagine she will try to do something to make it less than obvious that she has several million dollars laying around, but chances are it will make Benake suspicious anyway. It's amazing how Walt has become such a less sympathetic character this season. I don't agree with some that his actions are entirely irrational, but I keep hoping for him to show some signs of his former morality and cleverness. I get that he's changing and all, and I certainly don't expect him to have a sudden epiphany and get a Disney ending. Still, the former seasons really built him up as a guy who, when the shit hit the fan, would show huge balls and go to incredible lengths to help those he cared about. Think about his killing those two dealers to save Jesse, his creation of the whole Heisenberg persona, or the first time he had to kill a man. This season has Walt running around reacting to everyone else, and usually in a pretty poor way. Given his previous experiences, I just keep expecting him to come up with something naive but impressive none the less. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On September 13 2011 03:24 phyren wrote: I think they made it pretty clear that she is going to pay off his debts to avoid arousing further inquiries from the CID. I imagine she will try to do something to make it less than obvious that she has several million dollars laying around, but chances are it will make Benake suspicious anyway. It's amazing how Walt has become such a less sympathetic character this season. I don't agree with some that his actions are entirely irrational, but I keep hoping for him to show some signs of his former morality and cleverness. I get that he's changing and all, and I certainly don't expect him to have a sudden epiphany and get a Disney ending. Still, the former seasons really built him up as a guy who, when the shit hit the fan, would show huge balls and go to incredible lengths to help those he cared about. Think about his killing those two dealers to save Jesse, his creation of the whole Heisenberg persona, or the first time he had to kill a man. This season has Walt running around reacting to everyone else, and usually in a pretty poor way. Given his previous experiences, I just keep expecting him to come up with something naive but impressive none the less. I never got that vibe off Walt but i can see how you might. Walt does a lot of things wich can be explained as protecting those he cares for, but the truth of the matter is that Walt is a control freak who constantly thinks he knows best (granted he often does) and goes to great lengths to have everything go his way. Most of his drastic actions just happen to protect people close to him, but most of the time you will realise it's also he himself who benefits from it. Is he saving Jesse? Or is he covering himself? The most defining moment is when Walt lets Jesse's girlfriend die. I think that scene shows us what Walt is really all about. | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Source: some interview I read | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
Those of you who say Walt is acting differently than he has in the past... well come on, the circumstances are completely different. Gus and everybody else knows about his family, who he is, etc. They have more power than any of the punks he dealt with previously. Plus the Cartel also has ridiculous power. Annnd he's developed some super-ego that has manifested from all the insecurities he had festering inside of him due to his past failures with that chemical company. I feel everything makes sense and it is being beautifully done. | ||
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lizzard_warish
589 Posts
On September 08 2011 23:42 Nizaris wrote: Yep, Gus is as gay as Dumbledore is. Interviews do not constitute canon to me *shrugs*.Either admit you're wrong or the producers did a piss poor job showing he was gay. I'd go for the later. ---- Walts really a bastard, I do understand alot of his stress and rage at Jesse but really, how would killing Gus even help him? Leader of a giant drug empire dies, the whole thing collapses...and magically walt skips off to a field of roses, lives with the faerie folk, and lives happily ever after? If Gus dies there would be chaos and war, where Walt has no friends BUT is very important and well known figure. He either dies to stop others from using him or he gets forced by the cartel [or someone] to work slave like hours. Few drug lords are as reasonable as Gus. Really curious about the mexican thing, it doesnt seem like the kind of plot line that can be maintained, ya know? Like flipping back and forth between jesse in mexico and walt in America just seems like it wouldnt work exceptionally well for anything more than a couple episodes. | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
On August 09 2011 10:59 travis wrote: my theory is that gus plans to hand off jesse to one of the cartels to cook for them. it would both get rid of jesse and possibly make good between gus and the cartel We have a winning prediction. Man it tears me up seeing Walt and Jesse fight. They had an opportunity to really grow stronger together but Walt consistently fucked it up over the course of the season. | ||
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