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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 28 2018 11:44 GMT
#141
Unlike Newbee though, Liquid has a lot of AoE control with 3 long range AoE stuns.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 28 2018 11:46 GMT
#142
On January 28 2018 20:27 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Don't see your point though? Facerush is literally any comp with tanky heroes that just runs at you and wants to fight, diving towers to get kills, force team fights and then push towers, and games are usually short.

the point is that dk chen isn't facerushy at all because they lack the rush element, liquid was just super far ahead.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 28 2018 11:56 GMT
#143
Game really comes down to Newbee getting the team fight wins before about 45 minutes, otherwise Liquid will outscale.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 28 2018 11:57 GMT
#144
On January 28 2018 20:46 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 20:27 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Don't see your point though? Facerush is literally any comp with tanky heroes that just runs at you and wants to fight, diving towers to get kills, force team fights and then push towers, and games are usually short.

the point is that dk chen isn't facerushy at all because they lack the rush element, liquid was just super far ahead.

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/485515-another-brain-exercise-deathball-vs-face-rush

You can read a bit more on the matter if you want. DK is literally the epitome of facerush, same as Chen, cause they can dive towers, get kills, and leave without any trouble, and are both great at pushing those towers, both can end the game quickly and get ahead because of those kills and towers takedowns.

Just because it is called facerush, it doesn't have anything to do with the rush, you want to face fight as much as possible and take advantage of the early game to snowball into victory.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 28 2018 11:57 GMT
#145
yeah that might be game now #justtinkerthings
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-28 11:57:58
January 28 2018 11:57 GMT
#146
that was pretty bad from newbee

they should've expected that rosh contest
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 28 2018 11:58 GMT
#147
This is way too close
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 28 2018 11:58 GMT
#148
That was a Chinese Rosh by Newbee. Just walk in like you don't give a fuck, deservedly punished.
super gg
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
January 28 2018 11:58 GMT
#149
On January 28 2018 20:56 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Game really comes down to Newbee getting the team fight wins before about 45 minutes, otherwise Liquid will outscale.

tough for newbee, they do now have the lineup to dmg building effectively, plus against a tinker
even if Liquid 2 rax down, tinker will still enable them to hold up and out scale
-Terran-
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
January 28 2018 11:59 GMT
#150
Thanks god that NB are the only team proficient at this Naga "hero".
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-28 12:01:28
January 28 2018 12:00 GMT
#151
On January 28 2018 20:58 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 20:56 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Game really comes down to Newbee getting the team fight wins before about 45 minutes, otherwise Liquid will outscale.

tough for newbee, they do now have the lineup to dmg building effectively, plus against a tinker
even if Liquid 2 rax down, tinker will still enable them to hold up and out scale

they have plenty of tinker catch(naga song the easiest catch, disruptor even pitlord can catch tinker) though and OD + ursa still outscale naix

this can still go either ways even if it goes late
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Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
January 28 2018 12:00 GMT
#152
that is the kind of gamelosing shit NB pulls every single series. makes u wonder why they have a hard time winning stuff
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 28 2018 12:01 GMT
#153
Miiiiiiind controoooool
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 28 2018 12:02 GMT
#154
this poor disruptor is gonna have a hard life against tinker
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
January 28 2018 12:02 GMT
#155
On January 28 2018 21:00 Shergal wrote:
that is the kind of gamelosing shit NB pulls every single series. makes u wonder why they have a hard time winning stuff

they need to stop clumping against a draft that excels on those who clump
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
January 28 2018 12:02 GMT
#156
whoo nice fight
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
January 28 2018 12:03 GMT
#157
goddamn I wish I had the self control miracle does
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
January 28 2018 12:04 GMT
#158
i think liquid already won

seems like newbee's already playing again even though they can still win this
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
January 28 2018 12:06 GMT
#159
that sk play
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-28 12:07:19
January 28 2018 12:06 GMT
#160
ok how did that happen (liquid suddenly lost 4)
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