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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 08:07:24
January 24 2018 08:06 GMT
#61
so glad the discussion is back to the game

HYPE!

VGJ the anti-NA
-Terran-
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 24 2018 08:13 GMT
#62
Has anyone done the bracket math on whether fnatic and EG can meet prior to the finals? I wanna see the pizza party match up
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 08:15:58
January 24 2018 08:14 GMT
#63
coL is a pretty interesting case. Some people always like to talk about the influence of roster stability, but in coL's case it seems to me that their level compared to the field has been pretty stagnant after lineup changes. When they first brought in the Swedes 2015/2016, they immediately became a team that could qualify to events and win some games there but never really get that deep. Then they left, and coL struggled with their lineup for a year. Now Limmp and Chessie are back, coL immediately started qualifying to events again, but their lan results are pretty stagnant

On January 24 2018 17:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Has anyone done the bracket math on whether fnatic and EG can meet prior to the finals? I wanna see the pizza party match up


No I think the finals is the only place they can meet. They can both only get 3rd spot in their groups so they should be on different sides of the bracket
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
January 24 2018 08:31 GMT
#64
On January 24 2018 17:14 spudde123 wrote:
coL is a pretty interesting case. Some people always like to talk about the influence of roster stability, but in coL's case it seems to me that their level compared to the field has been pretty stagnant after lineup changes. When they first brought in the Swedes 2015/2016, they immediately became a team that could qualify to events and win some games there but never really get that deep. Then they left, and coL struggled with their lineup for a year. Now Limmp and Chessie are back, coL immediately started qualifying to events again, but their lan results are pretty stagnant

its just a prove that T3 Euro > T2 NA
-Terran-
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 24 2018 08:41 GMT
#65
Swindle thinks col is improving and will one day finally rise to the top. Thing is col/swindle is only good enough to take the odd games off good teams occasionally and that's about it. The teams is going nowhere and has never been.

I respect swindle a lot for having his own approach of playing the game. Sadly I also recognise his limitation. His brother though is pretty good.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
January 24 2018 08:49 GMT
#66
i can't support TL playing tb and viper as cores
this is a quote
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
January 24 2018 08:52 GMT
#67
This Liquid NaVi game turned pretty quick
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 24 2018 08:53 GMT
#68
Hmm, seems like ESL main reason is that streamers directly compete with them. Is it even true? The main stream provides analyst desk, hype commentary etc. What streamers are doing is watching the game with viewers/friends and sharing inputs. It's not like streamers set up dedicated studios for their streams. It's not even like a direct casting competitor such as tobi commentating on the game. I don't see what case ESL have.
RubickPicker
Profile Joined October 2015
United States332 Posts
January 24 2018 08:53 GMT
#69
Want to thank Crystallize for letting me borrow his account and play this game against the TI champs.

It's the only reasonable explanation I've got for why he TPed to mid there.
* N U K E D *
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
January 24 2018 08:54 GMT
#70
its a disasta!
-Terran-
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
January 24 2018 08:55 GMT
#71
liquid is suddenly winning lol
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
January 24 2018 09:00 GMT
#72
fucking liquid man
this is a quote
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
January 24 2018 09:01 GMT
#73
how is anyone allowed to just channel meteor hammer in melee range and hit 2 heroes who aren't stunned or slowed

there's no justice in this world
rip
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 09:01:53
January 24 2018 09:01 GMT
#74
secret / vp in one bracket, and potential TI rematch on the other side. What a tournament!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
January 24 2018 09:08 GMT
#75
poor waga doesnt understand the power of lycan. why would he go back to base when he have 40hp regen
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 09:22:23
January 24 2018 09:20 GMT
#76
VG's Lycan+Omni+SF is pretty depressing to fight into when behind. Felt like Fnatic really needed all their plays with Axe to work or they just lose. Not sure if they could have done better in the lanes somehow
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
January 24 2018 09:32 GMT
#77
Is there any chance of fnatic mounting a comeback vs VG? First game didn't promise a lot.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 24 2018 09:40 GMT
#78
On January 24 2018 17:53 DucK- wrote:
Hmm, seems like ESL main reason is that streamers directly compete with them. Is it even true? The main stream provides analyst desk, hype commentary etc. What streamers are doing is watching the game with viewers/friends and sharing inputs. It's not like streamers set up dedicated studios for their streams. It's not even like a direct casting competitor such as tobi commentating on the game. I don't see what case ESL have.

Well, it's technically true. With streamers the FB stream gets like 3-digit viewership. Without streamers they got up to 4-digit.

So they've got a steaming turd and shutting down restreams is their attempt to polish it.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 10:42:37
January 24 2018 09:44 GMT
#79
I like Fnatic's approach to g2 draft much better than g1. Not sure if they win but at least they are very comfortable playing this sort of game

Nice Zeus pick by VG though

VG is outplaying Fnatic atm. They got some nice wards down and are using them well

Nvm Fnatic took down 4 with a nice smoke right as I said that

Abed's Tinker is really farmed but seems like it's hard for him to have a big impact in fights. Fnatic hasn't managed to get a single fight on their terms for the last 20 minutes, Warlock getting caught a few times now

Fnatic won a rosh fight but are having a hard time breaking base against Zeus, ET etc. Zeus defending with double Nimbus lol. Somehow feels like VG will win this game in the end.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
January 24 2018 10:38 GMT
#80
On January 24 2018 18:44 spudde123 wrote:
I like Fnatic's approach to g2 draft much better than g1. Not sure if they win but at least they are very comfortable playing this sort of game

Nice Zeus pick by VG though

VG is outplaying Fnatic atm. They got some nice wards down and are using them well

Nvm Fnatic took down 4 with a nice smoke right as I said that

Abed's Tinker is really farmed but seems like it's hard for him to have a big impact in fights. Fnatic hasn't managed to get a single fight on their terms for the last 20 minutes, Warlock getting caught a few times now

nice report bro
please keep it up
I'm stuck in the office
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