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hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
August 11 2013 21:23 GMT
#2001
I think the story of both matches has been the draft. The first game, Na'vi didn't have enough control for both the weaver and the qop, and they sent dendi SF to die on Mushi's sacrificial altar. The 2nd match Orange let them grab weaver ON TOP of the puck/naix-bomb ON TOP of naga siren.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 11 2013 21:23 GMT
#2002
On August 12 2013 06:22 teapoted wrote:
Don't give dendi puck, Orange.

Or life stealer. That is what Navi wants. Life stealer and something else stupid.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 11 2013 21:23 GMT
#2003
On August 12 2013 06:22 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 06:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:16 ArchDC wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:15 LeCruci wrote:
Na'Vi might actually bring some excitement to the grandfinals. Orange would be outdrafted heavily in all games.


Nonsense. Navi has no change against Alliance. 3-0 but probably 3-1.

Na`Vi can have they surprise picks against Alliance, Orange would be streamrolled. If any team has a chance against Alliance, it would be Na`Vi even if they didn't show it in their previous 2 games.

I think surprise picks are overrated. Personally I believe Navi plays their best when they are on heroes that they're comfortable with (dendi with puck, xbox with lifestealer and so on).

Shenanigans work when you're a huge underdog and you have to take that risk. Skill-wise I don't think there's a big gap between Alliance and Navi. Granted that Alliance has been more solid and whatnot, but if both teams manage to bring their A-game then it's pretty much 50-50 for both.



Nah, Alliance is 80/20 over Na'vi. EGM and Akke are a vastly superior duo than KKY and Puppey. And Bulldog vs Funnik is a no contest; Bulldog is way, way, way stronger just because he commands respect bans.
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
August 11 2013 21:23 GMT
#2004
On August 12 2013 06:18 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 06:17 Retvets wrote:
Well, I'm just commenting that the crowd never cheer asian teams but alliance, liquid and navi gets big cheers etc.

Not very international imho

that is bullshit, or is this the first game you're watching ?


The crowd cheered for DK against Alliance.
~
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#2005
On August 12 2013 06:22 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 06:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:16 ArchDC wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:15 LeCruci wrote:
Na'Vi might actually bring some excitement to the grandfinals. Orange would be outdrafted heavily in all games.


Nonsense. Navi has no change against Alliance. 3-0 but probably 3-1.

Na`Vi can have they surprise picks against Alliance, Orange would be streamrolled. If any team has a chance against Alliance, it would be Na`Vi even if they didn't show it in their previous 2 games.

I think surprise picks are overrated. Personally I believe Navi plays their best when they are on heroes that they're comfortable with (dendi with puck, xbox with lifestealer and so on).

Shenanigans work when you're a huge underdog and you have to take that risk. Skill-wise I don't think there's a big gap between Alliance and Navi. Granted that Alliance has been more solid and whatnot, but if both teams manage to bring their A-game then it's pretty much 50-50 for both.

I think those two teams show that execution is still what wins games, they're better on their comfort heroes. Then there is mushii, but except him his mates still need their comfort heroes to show their best.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
August 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#2006
On August 12 2013 06:20 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 06:18 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:17 Retvets wrote:
Well, I'm just commenting that the crowd never cheer asian teams but alliance, liquid and navi gets big cheers etc.

Not very international imho


You think it would be any different if it was hosted in China? Home teams always get cheered more than away teams.


thats exactly why i said these audience are disgusting, navi/loda were hugely welcomed and cheered by the crowd when they were there.


Oh get over yourself. People are allowed to cheer for their favorite team. Why should they cheer for another team that they don't want to win? If some people in China are fans of navi good for them.
Math.random();
Profile Joined July 2011
433 Posts
August 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#2007
On August 12 2013 06:23 SpiffD wrote:
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On August 12 2013 06:22 zoLo wrote:
2GD with a DJWheat reference lol


Please explain I was afk


He said something like "Sorry that I sound like Djwheat, i'm little bit sick right now".
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#2008
GAME IS UP!
EZ4ENCE
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#2009
On August 12 2013 06:22 Dreamer.T wrote:
Was wondering when James would #shotsfired again... xD

Yames is like a Visage, he gets #shot charges over time so he can fire them in a rapid succession during pre-game.

Pyrion looks so different from what I imagined him to be ^_^
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#2010
On August 12 2013 06:22 Nomzter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 06:22 zoLo wrote:
2GD with a DJWheat reference lol

what did he say?

maelk something along the lines of him (2gd) being sick
and he was like "yeah, I'm sorry I might sound like DJWheat"

something along those lines.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#2011
aaaaaaaaaaah he got the inscrutable zeal mask
freaking lucker flax
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 21:25:02
August 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#2012
Oh god look at this guy with his shopkeeper hat

what a magnificent individual
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 11 2013 21:25 GMT
#2013
On August 12 2013 06:20 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 06:18 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:17 Retvets wrote:
Well, I'm just commenting that the crowd never cheer asian teams but alliance, liquid and navi gets big cheers etc.

Not very international imho


You think it would be any different if it was hosted in China? Home teams always get cheered more than away teams.


thats exactly why i said these audience are disgusting, navi/loda were hugely welcomed and cheered by the crowd when they were there.

Stop drinking the hater-aid, you are going to hurt yourself.

The crowd is not a hive mind.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 21:26:28
August 11 2013 21:25 GMT
#2014
On August 12 2013 06:17 Retvets wrote:
Well, I'm just commenting that the crowd never cheer asian teams but alliance, liquid and navi gets big cheers etc.

Not very international imho


How is a predominantly western crowd cheering western teams even remotely surprising
Dodge arrows
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
August 11 2013 21:25 GMT
#2015
tried and true picks so far
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
August 11 2013 21:25 GMT
#2016
What do Orange ban first now?!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 11 2013 21:25 GMT
#2017
WTF is orange doing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 11 2013 21:25 GMT
#2018
meh, more naix + puck
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 11 2013 21:25 GMT
#2019
Lifestealer and Puck for Na'Vi. oh no..
Dear Sixsmith...
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 21:26:47
August 11 2013 21:26 GMT
#2020
On August 12 2013 06:24 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 06:20 BurningSera wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:18 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:17 Retvets wrote:
Well, I'm just commenting that the crowd never cheer asian teams but alliance, liquid and navi gets big cheers etc.

Not very international imho


You think it would be any different if it was hosted in China? Home teams always get cheered more than away teams.


thats exactly why i said these audience are disgusting, navi/loda were hugely welcomed and cheered by the crowd when they were there.


Oh get over yourself. People are allowed to cheer for their favorite team. Why should they cheer for another team that they don't want to win? If some people in China are fans of navi good for them.


No, it's that the Chinese fans clearly show a great deal of respect towards Western teams but it's not the same when the Chinese teams come to The International. This has clearly been the case even when the Chinese teams aren't even playing fan favorites, or home teams from the USA. TI2/TI3 are perfect examples of this.

Like a Chinese team could be playing some random EU team not named Na'vi and the crowd would still cheer for the EU team no matter what.
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