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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
-Increased Arctic Burn slow duration from 4 to 5 to match the burn duration -Arctic Burn now pierces Spell Immunity -Arctic Burn now only gives bonus night vision for the cast duration instead of permanent when learned -Splinter Blast is now blocked by Linken's Sphere (on the primary target only) -Cold Embrace is now castable on spell immune allies -Winter's Curse now fully pierces spell immunity and forces immune units to attack the cursed target | ||
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robaq
Poland186 Posts
On February 13 2015 17:02 Daralii wrote: -Winter's Curse now fully pierces spell immunity and forces immune units to attack the cursed target So it is actually ranged axe call targeting enemy and without the added armor. Quite scary. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On February 13 2015 18:35 robaq wrote: So it is actually ranged axe call targeting enemy and without the added armor. Quite scary. 3 skills that totally ignore spell immunity and all 4 can't be dispelled by anything. She might be my new favorite support. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
Anyway, I just like her skillset, and in particular the q seems to be of such incredible utility (actually I feel like the defensive aspect of flying movement and bonus nightvision on a 20 second cooldown have more or less been overlooked in the discussion so far). In general, the range of all spells looks great, so I would guess (though I have no experience as of yet), this hero can stay on the edge of teamfights, being useful without having to expose herself to the other team. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On February 13 2015 16:41 xxpack09 wrote: Can confirm, played a game recently with WW/Oracle as supports. We got strictly crushed in lanes and lost the early-midgame hard--then when the enemy team was pushing mid rax with aegis at 22 min we hit a good call -> winter's curse -> arctic burn to slow them all down so none of them can run away -> teamwipe which completely turned the game around. Once troll got farmed our teamfight was disgusting--troll is invulernable because of false promise, and global/call/curse messed them up super hard. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1233092317 Again though, if they hadn't thrown so hard by clumping during their GG push we would have lost the game in 30 minutes. Not a support combo I would pick in most games. How did maxing W work out for you? Would you have preferred to max Q? | ||
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toemn
Germany915 Posts
But he feels really week all in all. No laning presence, weak harass, low movement speed, low base dmg and no disables.+ Doubt he will be picked ever. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On February 13 2015 19:31 Torte de Lini wrote: How did maxing W work out for you? Would you have preferred to max Q? Splinter Blast is such a great skill in lane, especially against short range heroes, I don't know why you would max Arctic Burn over it unless you were offlaning or something. Random gyf of an Auroth + Ember rampage from Reddit: http://gfycat.com/BowedJointHackee | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On February 13 2015 19:56 toemn wrote: This hero works so good with other heroes that can heal. But he feels really week all in all. No laning presence, weak harass, low movement speed, low base dmg and no disables.+ Doubt he will be picked ever. My entirely uninformed opinion is that other heroes have better lane harass, better neutral clearing, base damage, disables, etc... but they don't have Winter Wyvern's ult. My feeling is that if WW is picked competitively it will be because a team wants her ultimate. The rest of her skillset isn't useless by any means but a stun of comparable length and AoE to Reverse Polarity, which causes your enemies to attack each other, at range, on a support is pretty respectable. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On February 13 2015 20:14 Aquanim wrote: My entirely uninformed opinion is that other heroes have better lane harass, better neutral clearing, base damage, disables, etc... but they don't have Winter Wyvern's ult. My feeling is that if WW is picked competitively it will be because a team wants her ultimate. The rest of her skillset isn't useless by any means but a stun of comparable length and AoE to Reverse Polarity, which causes your enemies to attack each other, at range, on a support is pretty respectable. Enigma immediately comes to mind as a popular second support with her. Has plenty of room to farm since she doesn't need items at all and all her spells have a strong first point and great synergy with Winter's Curse. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On February 13 2015 20:34 Torte de Lini wrote: Arcane or Tranquil? I saw a lot of people go Phase which seems silly. they prolly saw waga do it and emulated it. I mean its good for chasing and applying the debuff but if you're supporting I don't see a purpose. I think arcanes mostly so you can farm stacks and solve your support mana woes. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
The thing is, I've played her yesterday, and for me she isn't fun to play almost at all, unlike some other supports. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On February 13 2015 21:14 BluemoonSC wrote: they prolly saw waga do it and emulated it. I mean its good for chasing and applying the debuff but if you're supporting I don't see a purpose. I think arcanes mostly so you can farm stacks and solve your support mana woes. With Arcane, feels like there is no point in going Soul Ring then | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
I think it's a decision I'd make from game to game, depending on how badly my allies want Arcanes, how much farm I'm getting, etc. | ||
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Daray
6006 Posts
On February 13 2015 21:16 Ramiz1989 wrote: I think that her ulti is really really good, heal and block also, other two spells are so-so, kind of situational. The thing is, I've played her yesterday, and for me she isn't fun to play almost at all, unlike some other supports. Her kit seems to be catered towards team fighting and not so much for ganking/roaming which i prefer to play in solo queue | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On February 13 2015 22:14 Daray wrote: Her kit seems to be catered towards team fighting and not so much for ganking/roaming which i prefer to play in solo queue If you can coordinate you can probably roam decently well with a partner. Her and Skywrath would probably be a good duo. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 13 2015 21:14 BluemoonSC wrote: they prolly saw waga do it and emulated it. I mean its good for chasing and applying the debuff but if you're supporting I don't see a purpose. I think arcanes mostly so you can farm stacks and solve your support mana woes. Tranq+SR farms better, Arcanes gives your team more if you're not farming that hard. | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On February 13 2015 22:41 TheYango wrote: Tranq+SR farms better, Arcanes gives your team more if you're not farming that hard. even with points into e? | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
what do you mean? | ||
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