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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 20 2015 04:15 Daralii wrote: The wiki recommends OoV for synergy with arctic burn for lane harass, which seems... strange. if by strange you mean retarded then yes | ||
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ASoo
2864 Posts
On February 20 2015 04:15 Daralii wrote: The wiki recommends OoV for synergy with arctic burn for lane harass, which seems... strange. Dat 3% slow. *edit* I noticed in a game a couple days ago that a dueling LC will still attack if in Cold Embrace. Seems like a neat little bit of synergy to help LC initiate without it being such a death sentence. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
So LC+WW works in DotA 2, but for completely different reasons than in DotA 1, lmao. | ||
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
hey yango, why does LC+WW work in Dota 1? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Actually wait, DotA 2's Duel/Cold Embrace interaction doesn't make any sense then because it's a stun and not an attack-disabling effect, lol. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On February 20 2015 15:04 TheYango wrote: Press the Attack is a triggered buff removal, so it removes Cold Embrace's stun without removing the regen/physical immunity. Actually wait, DotA 2's Duel/Cold Embrace interaction doesn't make any sense then because it's a stun and not an attack-disabling effect, lol. Well, according to the wiki notes: Stuns the target and turns it immune to physical damage. Does not block other damage types or spell effects. | ||
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ASoo
2864 Posts
Now I wanna go test it myself... *edit* Tested, does not work. Either I fooled myself with Moment of Courage procs or it was bugged a couple days ago. Sorry to get your hopes up :\ . | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
or face rush in general. on the same par if not way better than abaddon/treant as a defensive support. they rush in, ice refrigerator. gg aggression. | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
This hero is really fun to play and can turn fights with embrace and curse What would you max first between Q and W? I usually go for W first because the damage scales well, but the reduced cd and the increased range on the burn is really good... Glimmer cape is core on this hero, like all sup heroes imo | ||
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
On July 06 2015 06:36 HammerKick wrote: What would you max first between Q and W? I usually go for W first because the damage scales well, but the reduced cd and the increased range on the burn is really good... Arctic Burn does full damage at level 1, so it's better to max Splinter Blast first. I like to max W>E>Q, although W>Q>E might be better in terms of raw damage. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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SatsuinoHado
Bulgaria777 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
And I would say wyvern is quite balanced. Good pick against any heroes, but by no means an auto win hero. If you wanna nerf the hero, I'd say make embrace purgeable. Numbers are fine imo. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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Archeon
3258 Posts
On July 06 2015 06:36 HammerKick wrote: What would you max first between Q and W? I usually go for W first because the damage scales well, but the reduced cd and the increased range on the burn is really good... It depends slightly on the lane, but usually I go 1:0:0:0 into 2:0:1:0 and then decide on when we are going to start teamfighting. I've seen pros who play the hero very well (fng f.e.) skip splinter blast entirely until they maxed q, going for 4:0:2:1 at lvl 7 if i remember right. I think the decision should be based on how big you think your skirmishes are going to be. Arctic burn is a very good skill in the laning phase and in early skirmishes with small numbers (against two or three enemies) and splinter blast is a very good skill in fights with lots of heroes. A thing to keep in mind is that Splinter blast is terrible against very mobile heroes as well, it is however very good against melee heroes and works nicely with winter's curse. | ||
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ThePianoDentist
United Kingdom698 Posts
if you think the enemy will 5 man towers splinter blast definitely the way to go. as well as it being better spell if you want to push as well. I personally find splinter blast build the much safer build, as if you do get behind the d-push and big teamfight damage are good for coming back. and around level 3 when you need to decide whether to go splinter blast build you don't know whether you will be behind or not several minutes later when finally maxing first skill. games where i've maxed q and team has got behind i've felt pretty useless | ||
disciple
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KOFgokuon
United States14899 Posts
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Archeon
3258 Posts
On July 06 2015 08:31 SatsuinoHado wrote: do you guys think this hero is too strong or the meta helps her shine so much I am on the ropes as sometimes i think the hero is OK but in other i feel its op as hell Tbh I think the hero's too good, she's currently balanced by the fact that the meta's bad for her. WW is bad early and shines late and the meta is all about early aggression. While she's ok as an early defensive support and laner, she's pretty bad for ganking. The thing that separates her before lvl 6 is her tool vs physical damage in a meta full of magic damage burst heroes (lesh, qop, lina, early gyro). She would be extremely powerful in a meta like 6.83 f.e.. | ||
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