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Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 03 2012 07:27 GMT
#2221
On April 02 2012 08:19 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 08:07 Candadar wrote:
So I started fucking around with Slardar, and since I had no idea really what to do I just went Armlet -> BKB -> Heart (to basically keep Armlet on at all times and all that obscene amount of HP). Is there anything I could have done better? I feel like I should have gotten a HotD early on or something or a Medallion

Blink dagger is good on slardar to initiate. Blink -> crush -> rape.


I'd suggest Blink -> Amp -> Crush -> Rape on lone targets for the extra crush damage from the -armor, and it should be possible to animation cancel quickly for the amp -> crush.

It depends on the hero and/or the player's reaction time, but it works best on heroes without immediate stuns/hexes like AA, Zeus, Viper or... whoever.
ffxiv enjoyer
Pocom
Profile Joined March 2012
New Zealand30 Posts
April 03 2012 23:43 GMT
#2222
Does Chen's Holy Persuasion still work if the target ally is disabled?

Specifically in these 4 situations:

1) Ally in Astral Imprisionment
2) Ally cycloned either from the item or from Invoker
3) Ally is naix and after Chen casts he goes into a creep
4) Ally gets hit by Disruption from Shadow Demon after Chen casts
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
April 04 2012 00:35 GMT
#2223
On April 04 2012 08:43 Pocom wrote:
Does Chen's Holy Persuasion still work if the target ally is disabled?

Specifically in these 4 situations:

1) Ally in Astral Imprisionment
2) Ally cycloned either from the item or from Invoker
3) Ally is naix and after Chen casts he goes into a creep
4) Ally gets hit by Disruption from Shadow Demon after Chen casts


I believe it should. I can confirm for case 3 that naix will appear at the fountain after he infests out or the creep dies. I would imagine the same case for all others, in that after the duration of the spell wears off, the hero would appear at the fountain.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
April 04 2012 14:32 GMT
#2224
Are those guys with chinese IDs really chinese or just pretenders?
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
ArcticVanguard
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
April 04 2012 14:47 GMT
#2225
When is Vanguard a good item on Naix?
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~C.S. Lewis
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
April 04 2012 15:01 GMT
#2226
On April 04 2012 23:47 ArcticVanguard wrote:
When is Vanguard a good item on Naix?


On Naix, is a very rare situational item. Usually you just get stout shield + hatchet for jungle, or stout for lane. Doesn't really fit in traditional armlet builds, if you went Midas --> Vangaurd --> Mjollnir -->BKB-->Blink--> Assault Cuirass or something, I could see it adding some tank mid-game.

Of course if everyone picks a physical damage carry in a pub, could be useful too.
.Carnage
Profile Joined August 2010
United States99 Posts
April 04 2012 18:25 GMT
#2227
I've noticed that after Shadowfiend uses his ultimate he still maintains all of his soul stacks, despite the ultimate being described as him "releasing" the souls around him. Is this just a wording goof, or is it a bug?

(NOTE: I cannot check playdota.com due to filters)
He's just not the fastest zergling in the control group. -DayJ
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
April 04 2012 18:30 GMT
#2228
He still keeps his souls after ultimate.

He will only lose souls if he is killed.
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
April 04 2012 20:33 GMT
#2229
On April 05 2012 03:25 .Carnage wrote:
I've noticed that after Shadowfiend uses his ultimate he still maintains all of his soul stacks, despite the ultimate being described as him "releasing" the souls around him. Is this just a wording goof, or is it a bug?

(NOTE: I cannot check playdota.com due to filters)


nope this is intended.
if you can believe you can concieve
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
April 04 2012 20:40 GMT
#2230
I would never get vanguard on naix. Quite simply, you don't need the regen, and while the tank-ability is nice you don't need it (you are better served by later game items like heart, or offensive early game items like janggo and armlet). My standard build is (sometimes midas) gloves of haste for armlet, boots, armlet, treads, then Mjoll.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
April 04 2012 23:40 GMT
#2231
So just how are you supposed to go about beating a good Tinker? There just seems to be very little me or my teammates can do to stop him from just killing all of our lanes and pushing us at all times. It's not even just pushing when he's out. He just TP's back, and TP's back into the fight and does his work. I'm so lost.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
April 04 2012 23:40 GMT
#2232
On April 05 2012 08:40 Candadar wrote:
So just how are you supposed to go about beating a good Tinker? There just seems to be very little me or my teammates can do to stop him from just killing all of our lanes and pushing us at all times. It's not even just pushing when he's out. He just TP's back, and TP's back into the fight and does his work. I'm so lost.

Tinker's easily gankable
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 23:47:11
April 04 2012 23:47 GMT
#2233
On April 05 2012 08:40 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 08:40 Candadar wrote:
So just how are you supposed to go about beating a good Tinker? There just seems to be very little me or my teammates can do to stop him from just killing all of our lanes and pushing us at all times. It's not even just pushing when he's out. He just TP's back, and TP's back into the fight and does his work. I'm so lost.

Tinker's easily gankable


Yes yes. But unless it's really one sided and we keep denying him his boots, he will get his boots eventually and there's very little I can think of beyond that unless we happen to be there at the right place and right time to get a good gank off of him, but even then.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 04 2012 23:51 GMT
#2234
On April 05 2012 08:47 Candadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 08:40 5-s wrote:
On April 05 2012 08:40 Candadar wrote:
So just how are you supposed to go about beating a good Tinker? There just seems to be very little me or my teammates can do to stop him from just killing all of our lanes and pushing us at all times. It's not even just pushing when he's out. He just TP's back, and TP's back into the fight and does his work. I'm so lost.

Tinker's easily gankable


Yes yes. But unless it's really one sided and we keep denying him his boots, he will get his boots eventually and there's very little I can think of beyond that unless we happen to be there at the right place and right time to get a good gank off of him, but even then.


Wait next to a creep wave.
Tinker tp's to it.
Kill.
Profit$$$
High Risk Low Reward
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
April 06 2012 08:48 GMT
#2235
On April 05 2012 08:51 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 08:47 Candadar wrote:
On April 05 2012 08:40 5-s wrote:
On April 05 2012 08:40 Candadar wrote:
So just how are you supposed to go about beating a good Tinker? There just seems to be very little me or my teammates can do to stop him from just killing all of our lanes and pushing us at all times. It's not even just pushing when he's out. He just TP's back, and TP's back into the fight and does his work. I'm so lost.

Tinker's easily gankable


Yes yes. But unless it's really one sided and we keep denying him his boots, he will get his boots eventually and there's very little I can think of beyond that unless we happen to be there at the right place and right time to get a good gank off of him, but even then.


Wait next to a creep wave.
Tinker tp's to it.
Kill.
Profit$$$


Use downtime on tinker to push, because he will have at least 50-60% of his team's gold. Tinker stronk, but also gold whore and when he dies, his team is moderately fucked.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
April 07 2012 10:58 GMT
#2236
any tips on how to get match against better people? I'm keep getting matched with a team of 5 carries and sometimes a mid solo pudge who doesn't gank?
I usually play with my friends in the weekend and we usually win, but they don't have as much freetime as I do.
I hate all this singing
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 22:35:28
April 07 2012 22:28 GMT
#2237
What's the proper way to use Bountyhunter's track? Say you're in stealth, and you want to jump on someone, or want to engage in a team fight, how would you use it? Do you just throw it out as soon as you leave stealth, or do you wait until someone's almost dead, or what?

Also, does Bloodstone's mana regen stack with itself?

How do percent based things stack, like %increased damage, %mana regen, %health regen, etc.? Is it multiplicative, or additive?
you gotta dance
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 07 2012 22:43 GMT
#2238
On April 08 2012 07:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's the proper way to use Bountyhunter's track? Say you're in stealth, and you want to jump on someone, or want to engage in a team fight, how would you use it? Do you just throw it out as soon as you leave stealth, or do you wait until someone's almost dead, or what?

Also, does Bloodstone's mana regen stack with itself?

How do percent based things stack, like %increased damage, %mana regen, %health regen, etc.? Is it multiplicative, or additive?

If you're cloaked, strike first for physical backstab damage coupled with Jinada. Track immediately afterward. Use Track again as soon as it comes off cooldown on targets likely to die.

Never tested multiple Bloodstones.

Percent-based stacks are additive. http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/Hitpoints_and_Manapoints
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
April 07 2012 22:45 GMT
#2239
On April 08 2012 07:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's the proper way to use Bountyhunter's track? Say you're in stealth, and you want to jump on someone, or want to engage in a team fight, how would you use it? Do you just throw it out as soon as you leave stealth, or do you wait until someone's almost dead, or what?

Also, does Bloodstone's mana regen stack with itself?

How do percent based things stack, like %increased damage, %mana regen, %health regen, etc.? Is it multiplicative, or additive?


If you're ganking, after you initiate (auto attack out of stealth) is fine. In teamfights, try to track the main focus target, and if you're not too sure, 100% ALWAYS just keep it able to cast and wait until someone is about to die. What determines an amazing BH is whether or not you track the dying people to give extra gold to your team. That is the game changer, the better you get at it, the better BH you will be.

Someone else will have to answer the other ones ><!
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
April 07 2012 23:33 GMT
#2240
On April 08 2012 07:43 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 07:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's the proper way to use Bountyhunter's track? Say you're in stealth, and you want to jump on someone, or want to engage in a team fight, how would you use it? Do you just throw it out as soon as you leave stealth, or do you wait until someone's almost dead, or what?

Also, does Bloodstone's mana regen stack with itself?

How do percent based things stack, like %increased damage, %mana regen, %health regen, etc.? Is it multiplicative, or additive?

If you're cloaked, strike first for physical backstab damage coupled with Jinada. Track immediately afterward. Use Track again as soon as it comes off cooldown on targets likely to die.

Never tested multiple Bloodstones.

Percent-based stacks are additive. http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/Hitpoints_and_Manapoints

I don't mean multiple bloodstones, but Bloodstone gives a 200% increase in mana regen, and 1 mana per second for each stack. I was wondering if the % increase stacked with the bonus regen on the item itself. i.e. every stack really gives 3 mana regen, not just 1.

Thanks for the answers, though, you two. :p
you gotta dance
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