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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 19 2012 16:24 Depetrify wrote: Can Drow Ranger use lifesteal items? Yes, but if you have Frost Arrows active, Frost Arrows overrides orb effect lifesteal. It's still often worthwhile because you don't need Frost Arrows on every attack. | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On March 19 2012 14:29 scottyyy wrote: It's my push to talk on mumble. And no I can't just change my push to talk key because I'm so used to it. :p Well ok then. I'd just change it to alt imo because I don't know there is a way to unbind shift. But to each there own. Good luck! | ||
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Candadar
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Your item build should look something like soul ring>treads>force staff>armlet. BKB when the game calls for it Soul ring ensures you pretty much never die without mana for your ulti since you can temporarily have more mana than your max pool, and you can time the usage before you die. Using it before you stun every time is crucial. His lifesteal was hugely buffed a while ago which helps in the midgame for jungle farm or just a good aura for the rest of your melees. His crit is nice, but it doesn't really help until later when you have armlet/force for aspd and the ability to get up close. The general rule for items is to improve your hero's skill set. Getting daedalus on any hero with innate passive crit ability is just redundant. It's better to get damage and attack speed. Crits don't stack the way you think they would, they just occur at two separate rates. It's better to spend money on a deso/ac in the late game on skel king. With soul ring and force you're not standing around doing nothing or chasing forever, you can actually get in and hurt shit. Your ulti can be used as an aegis, offensively to push or to bait the other team into having to fight. He's not a bad hero as a 4th 5th pick. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
generally the skill build is 40012 > 40422, but there can be some variation (early lifesteal for pushing for example) an old build that tries to abuse his ult (is fine but requires early farm) is quick radi > whatever (armlet, ac, heart, satanic, bkb, etc) nowadays it's more common to see straight dps leoric with armlet > deso/ac/bkb/whatever there's also the more recent forcestaff > dps build that uses forcestaff to try and fix some of his positional issues daedalus generally isn't that good, mkb is going to be more useful as a raw damage item most of the time because sk already has a built-in crit | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
On March 19 2012 21:53 Ack1027 wrote: Arguably the best way to play skel in dota2 right now is to max stun. The rest of the skill build depends on your game/lane but in the majority people will still go stats or 1 in lifesteal until later. Please don't follow theorycraft master wannabes who say only 1 point in stun is fine. That's a very very situational build that you have to already have a detailed knowledge of dota for. It's the same logic as vs builds that max scream and aura and leave stun at 1. If you don't know what you're doing, don't do it. Your item build should look something like soul ring>treads>force staff>armlet. BKB when the game calls for it Soul ring ensures you pretty much never die without mana for your ulti since you can temporarily have more mana than your max pool, and you can time the usage before you die. Using it before you stun every time is crucial. His lifesteal was hugely buffed a while ago which helps in the midgame for jungle farm or just a good aura for the rest of your melees. His crit is nice, but it doesn't really help until later when you have armlet/force for aspd and the ability to get up close. The general rule for items is to improve your hero's skill set. Getting daedalus on any hero with innate passive crit ability is just redundant. It's better to get damage and attack speed. Crits don't stack the way you think they would, they just occur at two separate rates. It's better to spend money on a deso/ac in the late game on skel king. With soul ring and force you're not standing around doing nothing or chasing forever, you can actually get in and hurt shit. Your ulti can be used as an aegis, offensively to push or to bait the other team into having to fight. He's not a bad hero as a 4th 5th pick. Ack summed up all facets of the SK handily. Everything else that is situational is up to you in game depending on how the scenarios play out. | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On March 19 2012 21:53 Ack1027 wrote: Arguably the best way to play skel in dota2 right now is to max stun. The rest of the skill build depends on your game/lane but in the majority people will still go stats or 1 in lifesteal until later. Please don't follow theorycraft master wannabes who say only 1 point in stun is fine. That's a very very situational build that you have to already have a detailed knowledge of dota for. It's the same logic as vs builds that max scream and aura and leave stun at 1. If you don't know what you're doing, don't do it. Your item build should look something like soul ring>treads>force staff>armlet. BKB when the game calls for it Soul ring ensures you pretty much never die without mana for your ulti since you can temporarily have more mana than your max pool, and you can time the usage before you die. Using it before you stun every time is crucial. His lifesteal was hugely buffed a while ago which helps in the midgame for jungle farm or just a good aura for the rest of your melees. His crit is nice, but it doesn't really help until later when you have armlet/force for aspd and the ability to get up close. The general rule for items is to improve your hero's skill set. Getting daedalus on any hero with innate passive crit ability is just redundant. It's better to get damage and attack speed. Crits don't stack the way you think they would, they just occur at two separate rates. It's better to spend money on a deso/ac in the late game on skel king. With soul ring and force you're not standing around doing nothing or chasing forever, you can actually get in and hurt shit. Your ulti can be used as an aegis, offensively to push or to bait the other team into having to fight. He's not a bad hero as a 4th 5th pick. Fair enough. Not much else to say, makes a lot sense. Thanks ^^ | ||
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lozarian
United Kingdom1043 Posts
On March 19 2012 21:58 Dead9 wrote: he's just a hard to kill autoattack carry with a single target stun generally the skill build is 40012 > 40422, but there can be some variation (early lifesteal for pushing for example) an old build that tries to abuse his ult (is fine but requires early farm) is quick radi > whatever (armlet, ac, heart, satanic, bkb, etc) nowadays it's more common to see straight dps leoric with armlet > deso/ac/bkb/whatever there's also the more recent forcestaff > dps build that uses forcestaff to try and fix some of his positional issues daedalus generally isn't that good, mkb is going to be more useful as a raw damage item most of the time because sk already has a built-in crit Sorry, but what the fuck is 40012? 4 points stun 1 ulti 2 stats? Where the hell did this notation come from? I've never seen it before. Thats just confusing. And requires you to know where the skills are. As for leoric - melee carry. He hits things until they or he dies, and then does it again. | ||
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imweakless
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
it's not really that confusing, i mean you understood it almost immediately right ![]() i suppose you have to know where the skills are, but it's not hard to look up, and it's no more confusing than qsqsqrqeeere | ||
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noD
2230 Posts
1) Is it impossible to win a late game without hard agi carry ? (Seems like past level 19 they can pretty much stomp anything str or int) 2) Which is the hardest carries in the game (level 25 and big itens) ? (my bet is something like magina, faceless void, spectre viper and weaver but can't get the order .... ) | ||
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
On March 19 2012 22:41 noD wrote: I have to question 1) Is it impossible to win a late game without hard agi carry ? (Seems like past level 19 they can pretty much stomp anything str or int) 2) Which is the hardest carries in the game (level 25 and big itens) ? (my bet is something like magina, faceless void, spectre viper and weaver but can't get the order .... ) 1) Nothing is impossible, there are decent alternatives to the hard carries. Problem is dealing out adequate damage, Leshrac , Naix, Skeleton King, Dragon Knight, Storm Spirit, and Nature's Prophet come to mind immediately for the alternatives. The INT carries are capable if they get a sheep + farm. 2) Void, Spectre, Magina, Morphling, Weaver. Something like that, in the current Meta. STR Carries are fine too, Naix , DK, SK. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
2. spec morph void am, but it depends a lot on how much support they have weaver and viper both suck lategame | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On March 19 2012 22:41 noD wrote: I have to question 1) Is it impossible to win a late game without hard agi carry ? (Seems like past level 19 they can pretty much stomp anything str or int) 2) Which is the hardest carries in the game (level 25 and big itens) ? (my bet is something like magina, faceless void, spectre viper and weaver but can't get the order .... ) 1. yes. depends on situation though 2. currently in dota2: not using the typical idea of a carry "sigh": spectre, void, skeleton king, am, od strongish: morphling, furion (varies), bounty hunter less annoying: tiny (backdoor), drow, riki, potm, tinker lolz: kunkka | ||
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TheBoat
Norway23 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
dotacommentaries.com | ||
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
On March 19 2012 23:04 TheBoat wrote: Where is the best place to watch dota2 casts, if there is any? for livestreams just go to http://gosugamers.net/dota2 and click on the matches on match ticker. Streams are usually listed there. | ||
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noD
2230 Posts
On March 19 2012 22:58 rabidch wrote: 1. yes. depends on situation though 2. currently in dota2: not using the typical idea of a carry "sigh": spectre, void, skeleton king, am, od strongish: morphling, furion (varies), bounty hunter less annoying: tiny (backdoor), drow, riki, potm, tinker lolz: kunkka Can OD carry that much ? | ||
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