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Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-30 08:41:25
April 30 2019 08:41 GMT
#6481
They have to be in good form from the very beginning to have a shot on an upper bracket place. Keen Gaming did cost Liquid already their spot at Dreamhack, let´s hope that history will not repeat. Second to last chance for Kuro and his Team to make it to TI without going through qualifiers.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 04 2019 08:54 GMT
#6482
A very rough start already. Oh Liquid, why?
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 04 2019 08:57 GMT
#6483
Oh we have a dota tournament with liquid again, after 10 years. not expecting anything to be honest, if they get last place again i wont even be surprised.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-04 11:13:14
May 04 2019 09:30 GMT
#6484
As long as OG do well, the TI qualifiers might not be that hard.

[Edit]: Miracle is playing well again! Our patience has paid off!!!
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 04 2019 12:27 GMT
#6485
I like the way the bois played vs Keen, We even got Game 1 under control but with that draft 1 mistake means GG, and thats just what happened. Now we face VP - OMG, that will be epic!
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 04 2019 14:18 GMT
#6486
Liquid's playing so well now I don't feel bad if they lose because it's so close and they played their hearts out.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 04 2019 14:23 GMT
#6487
yeah i agree. that game was so close, anyone could have won. Morph was just a bit too much in the end.
Exo56Rus
Profile Joined May 2019
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-04 15:02:22
May 04 2019 15:01 GMT
#6488
Twice given the closing draft of the heroes (Morph, Storm). WTF???

P.s Please, kick Matumba from the team (this should have been done as 2 seasons ago). He's the worst kerry player on the pro-scene. It’s so shame to watch when the game is on 4 players vs 6 players.


User was warned for this post
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 04 2019 15:08 GMT
#6489
On May 05 2019 00:01 Exo56Rus wrote:
Twice given the closing draft of the heroes (Morph, Storm). WTF???

P.s Please, kick Matumba from the team (this should have been done as 2 seasons ago). He's the worst kerry player on the pro-scene. It’s so shame to watch when the game is on 4 players vs 6 players.


Miracle doesn't completely shit the bed for one tournament this year and now we're back to flaming every single one of his team mates because Miracle is a flawless god that can do no wrong.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 04 2019 15:09 GMT
#6490
someone is salty lol
Not only that but also very wrong about too many things.

All in all decent games, much better than I expected out of TL after the last major. Hopefully we take the decider for upper bracket, cause today VP was just the better team
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 04 2019 15:13 GMT
#6491
Look, if we're flaming Liquid because we thought they thought they had a chance to take on VP but they messed it up, it just goes to show how much of an improvement Liquid has made. Because before their first series, would anybody actually think they could take on VP?
Exo56Rus
Profile Joined May 2019
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-04 15:19:29
May 04 2019 15:18 GMT
#6492
On May 05 2019 00:08 juuto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2019 00:01 Exo56Rus wrote:
Twice given the closing draft of the heroes (Morph, Storm). WTF???

P.s Please, kick Matumba from the team (this should have been done as 2 seasons ago). He's the worst kerry player on the pro-scene. It’s so shame to watch when the game is on 4 players vs 6 players.


Miracle doesn't completely shit the bed for one tournament this year and now we're back to flaming every single one of his team mates because Miracle is a flawless god that can do no wrong.


It's so hard for him to play when he has rubbish on Matumbaman.

P.s Do you understand that Miracle won them all tournaments (including International) when Matumba is somewhere on a 6-7 place on the teams network?

Review this game for the weawer at least and stop spell some shit, kid.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 04 2019 15:19 GMT
#6493
I honestly half expected us to lose to Keen so I ain't complaining
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 04 2019 15:22 GMT
#6494
On May 05 2019 00:18 Exo56Rus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2019 00:08 juuto wrote:
On May 05 2019 00:01 Exo56Rus wrote:
Twice given the closing draft of the heroes (Morph, Storm). WTF???

P.s Please, kick Matumba from the team (this should have been done as 2 seasons ago). He's the worst kerry player on the pro-scene. It’s so shame to watch when the game is on 4 players vs 6 players.


Miracle doesn't completely shit the bed for one tournament this year and now we're back to flaming every single one of his team mates because Miracle is a flawless god that can do no wrong.


It's so hard for him to play when he has rubbish on Matumbaman.

P.s Do you understand that Miracle won them all tournaments (including International) when Matumba is somewhere on a 6-7 place on the teams network?

Review this game for the weawer at least and stop spell some shit, kid.


You do realize that mostly he ends up low on the networth because the team decides to sacrifice his game to give Miracle more space?

Sure this was not the best weaver performance, but Liquid lost that by taking silly fights and being very sloppy about positioning. That was far from being a single player's fault and much more also related to a draft with not even close to enough lockdown for a Storm Spirit
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Exo56Rus
Profile Joined May 2019
10 Posts
May 04 2019 15:25 GMT
#6495
On May 05 2019 00:13 juuto wrote:
Look, if we're flaming Liquid because we thought they thought they had a chance to take on VP but they messed it up, it just goes to show how much of an improvement Liquid has made. Because before their first series, would anybody actually think they could take on VP?


Before this meeting, Vp had 37% wins against Liquid. I keep up to date, but you apparently don’t know nothing and they should have won this meeting, but Matumba decided to throw the victory as usual.


Liquid win lines, control runes, they had 8.000 gold but threw the victory out of the blue (and so twice). The problem is not that they have lost, but that they giving victory on the same place in both games.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-04 15:37:33
May 04 2019 15:36 GMT
#6496
The lifetime stat of 37% makes very little sense in this context. If you kept up to date as you claim you would know that this season's TL is a far cry from the previous 2 seasons while VP have been chugging along like always. There is a reason why TL only sits at rank 12 of the DPC instead of being first to qualify like VP did.

If you check for this season's records for TL against VP you would know that they only won a Bo1 they had against them at MDL Macau, The only other direct meeting was the one they just lost.

Considering current form, momentum etc. TL really had no business giving VP as competitive of a series as they did although it ended 0-2
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Exo56Rus
Profile Joined May 2019
10 Posts
May 04 2019 15:39 GMT
#6497
On May 05 2019 00:36 ShiaoPi wrote:
The lifetime stat of 37% makes very little sense in this context. If you kept up to date as you claim you would know that this season's TL is a far cry from the previous 2 seasons while VP have been chugging along like always. There is a reason why TL only sits at rank 12 of the DPC instead of being first to qualify like VP did.

If you check for this season's records for TL against VP you would know that they only won a Bo1 they had against them at MDL Macau, The only other direct meeting was the one they just lost.

Considering current form, momentum etc. TL really had no business giving VP as competitive of a series as they did although it ended 0-2

Matumba need kick already. He play like easy Ai with 0 impact.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 04 2019 15:41 GMT
#6498
On May 05 2019 00:39 Exo56Rus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2019 00:36 ShiaoPi wrote:
The lifetime stat of 37% makes very little sense in this context. If you kept up to date as you claim you would know that this season's TL is a far cry from the previous 2 seasons while VP have been chugging along like always. There is a reason why TL only sits at rank 12 of the DPC instead of being first to qualify like VP did.

If you check for this season's records for TL against VP you would know that they only won a Bo1 they had against them at MDL Macau, The only other direct meeting was the one they just lost.

Considering current form, momentum etc. TL really had no business giving VP as competitive of a series as they did although it ended 0-2

Matumba need kick already. He play like easy Ai with 0 impact.




Yes, clearly just easy AI with 0 impact right there.

You should maybe consider getting off the hate train you seem to have for Matu
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 04 2019 20:18 GMT
#6499
that being said, I do think the decision to make Matumba a poverty core2 was weird in those two games vs VP. Wether it's the team saying they need Matumba to be really selfless or it's him and overdoing it idk.

The weaver vs Drow is just really hard to play if you're far behind as a weaver imo. You just die in that silence time and need to keep up in items. Maybe Kuro underestimates how long it takes for Arc Warden to take over?
The LifeStealer game likewise felt a bit weird of a game to put all your eggs into the Miracle basket instead of having a more balanced pos1 and pos2 distribution, which imo would have made things harder for VP.

But obviously that's just my pleb opionion. Not trying to hate on them. The first 4 games were really nice to watch and a good improvement over how things have been recently.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
May 04 2019 21:56 GMT
#6500
All this flaming liquid players is actually an insult to VP who drafted and played extremely well.

Solo in particular owned TL this series.
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