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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 06 2018 13:07 GMT
#5801
Grand finals fuck yeah! Let's hope Liquid can play better then yesterday;)
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 06 2018 13:08 GMT
#5802
On May 06 2018 21:21 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2018 19:56 juuto wrote:
It feels like Liquid doesn't even simply lose tournaments anymore, they do well for a while and then completely bomb out.

And you need to work on your negativity. The boys are still in it;)


They need to work on their plays, you can't be mad at me after watching those 3 1/2 games! They made me negative, not me.

Anyways, jokes aside, that might've been Liquid's best game this tournament? Kuro and Gh played out of their minds, Matu putting some real work in as Viper, Miracle with the huge save on Matu, and MC with all around solid play.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 06 2018 13:14 GMT
#5803
I hope we have used the loss yesterday against LGD to prepare for them, otherwise we might get dumpstered again
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 06 2018 13:33 GMT
#5804
They're playing a lot better in the FTM series though.
korendir
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore259 Posts
May 06 2018 15:15 GMT
#5805
On May 06 2018 22:33 juuto wrote:
They're playing a lot better in the FTM series though.


u must have only watched the 3rd game? the first game was painful to watch almost, with so many spells missed, and the 2nd was almost the same until FTM began to throw. Luckily they began to come into their usual form in the 3rd game
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
May 06 2018 15:40 GMT
#5806
3:0 for LGD inc?
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
May 06 2018 16:09 GMT
#5807
Miracle, have my aura! - Matumbaman
I think esports is pretty nice.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 06 2018 16:10 GMT
#5808
On May 07 2018 00:40 its_a_me wrote:
3:0 for LGD inc?

in invoker we trust x)
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
May 06 2018 16:15 GMT
#5809
wow never thought with this start that they could make it
GJ
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 06 2018 17:19 GMT
#5810
That Troll summoner. Lol It happens.
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
May 06 2018 17:29 GMT
#5811
mistakes were made ... but great game ... lets go 3:2 win
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
May 06 2018 18:08 GMT
#5812
I've noticed Liquid gets caught by LGD's smokes every time whereas their own smokes seem very ineffective. Feels like LGD know Liquid better than vice versa.
I think esports is pretty nice.
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-06 18:15:41
May 06 2018 18:09 GMT
#5813
Not only by LGDs smokes. They somehow have forgotten how to smoke or do/fake roshan
Now its time for real man go rapier

€dit: Their drafts are also a little to creative
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 06 2018 18:20 GMT
#5814
After all this is a year where a chinese team should win TI. They played good, we didnt. They won.
BUTthe meta changes dramatically every 2 weeks. So we don't know what will happen until TI. We got a couple more majors to win one, just for having one.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 06 2018 18:23 GMT
#5815
Before the negative squad comes here like always: that Game 3 was so painful to watch, what a throw. we had that game in the bag...well really sucks, that we seem to be cursed to never win a major, but life goes on. 2nd place is still pretty good.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 06 2018 18:24 GMT
#5816
I still get upset thinking back on the overextensions in game 1 and 3 but all in all LGD just played better with less mistakes and definitely deserved the win here. We will get em next time!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
May 06 2018 18:25 GMT
#5817
yeah, its insane how flawless you have to play to win a major.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 06 2018 18:25 GMT
#5818
Liquid is just too inconsistent to win a tournament at the moment. They're also shooting themselves in the foot with these drafts. It feels like they're constantly picking weaker heroes to "counter" stronger ones and the stronger ones always win out.
Savatage
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy182 Posts
May 06 2018 18:51 GMT
#5819
the drafts on main stage... i don't know what is Kuroky thinking, even the panelist every time they couldn't believe in the drafts, the only times they predicted a Liquid win was becasue "They're Liquid and they are the better team".
But even the better team with shitty drafts cannot win anything "major" like.
267
Profile Joined December 2017
64 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-06 23:54:56
May 06 2018 23:52 GMT
#5820
I think Liquid looks good but there are definitely a couple of flaws in the machinery.

I think that part of the issue is related to GH. GH is not doing bad, but the meta is not working in his favor. At TI every draft discussion was about which of his heroes the opponent is going to let him get. ES, Io, KotL? Pick your poison. Matumba was similiar story, his broodmother and lycan dominated in multiple games.

The last few tournaments both GH and Matumba have been rather "neutral". Matumba play something like ~viper/dp and GH gets a ~clockwork/NS/SK hero. I barely remember what they play to be honest. It is all on Miracle to carry the game.

And if it something that has been proven beyond any reason of doubt the last 8 months is that one core lineup does NOT work.
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