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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 04 2018 15:08 GMT
#5781
Feels good to also have the TI tickets in the bag now.
Hopefully we can keep our epicenter streak and take home the first major for us!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 04 2018 15:11 GMT
#5782
IDC TI or Epicenter win, all I care is dodging Bo1s.

My hatred for Bo1s trumps everything else at this point. I feel like I won the lottery today
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 04 2018 16:36 GMT
#5783
On May 05 2018 00:11 juuto wrote:
IDC TI or Epicenter win, all I care is dodging Bo1s.

My hatred for Bo1s trumps everything else at this point. I feel like I won the lottery today

Its just a really bad system for dota, and liquid in particular are pretty bad at it. Really glad we avoided that shit;)
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
May 05 2018 11:24 GMT
#5784
Liquid dominating their group looks even better now with how the playoffs went so far.
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
May 05 2018 15:34 GMT
#5785
Looks like we're not going to get Liquid vs. VP this tournament after all. I'm kind of disappointed, but I guess not every team can be as consistent as Liquid.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
May 05 2018 15:45 GMT
#5786
On May 06 2018 00:34 SFDuality wrote:
Looks like we're not going to get Liquid vs. VP this tournament after all. I'm kind of disappointed, but I guess not every team can be as consistent as Liquid.


consistent as liquid not winning a single major after TI?

kidding aside, liquid seems pretty confirmed on winning this tournament with VP bombing out so badly, unless LGD/FTM plays the games of their lives against liquid, but with liquid comfortably outplaying the rest of the teams so far i don't see it happening
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 05 2018 15:54 GMT
#5787
This is why you gotta appreciate the Liquid consistency. Some folks were overly harsh on them because they weren't VP but do you want them to be VP now?

Also, I miss last year's Epicenter intros. Not a fan of this year's.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 16:58:49
May 05 2018 16:58 GMT
#5788
On May 06 2018 00:54 juuto wrote:
This is why you gotta appreciate the Liquid consistency. Some folks were overly harsh on them because they weren't VP but do you want them to be VP now?

Also, I miss last year's Epicenter intros. Not a fan of this year's.


So much with the consistency.Our boys deserved it. You can't get that cocky in picking morph first pick. He was a non factor that entire game. We got what we asked for. I thought that Kuro will draft a morph support, but nope. First time we lose our focus and we look bad. Its the same every time - but i am pretty sure we will not do that in game two. And things will look very different.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
May 05 2018 17:14 GMT
#5789
On May 06 2018 01:58 NInoff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2018 00:54 juuto wrote:
This is why you gotta appreciate the Liquid consistency. Some folks were overly harsh on them because they weren't VP but do you want them to be VP now?

Also, I miss last year's Epicenter intros. Not a fan of this year's.


So much with the consistency.Our boys deserved it. You can't get that cocky in picking morph first pick. He was a non factor that entire game. We got what we asked for. I thought that Kuro will draft a morph support, but nope. First time we lose our focus and we look bad. Its the same every time - but i am pretty sure we will not do that in game two. And things will look very different.


oh cmon, morph pick was fine, they just needed miracle to get a good lane so maybe putting him mid wasnt a good idea. if miracle didnt die early a few more times and liquid got out of the laning phase better, they would hit their standard 20min timing push(which they did in this game). the draft was entirely liquid comfort heroes - they just got the lgd train rolling too early and then they lost their timing.

if lgd wasn't as fed liquid will just steamroll them 20min, imagine what would an underfed storm/sandking against underlord + es + veno teamfight to save morph anytime they could get out - what would lgd do? draft was fine, just a few misplays here and there led the game being snowballed out of control
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 05 2018 17:47 GMT
#5790
Liquid are getting the shit stomped out of them. Their drafts looked so lost and confused at the moment and their play is just as bad.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 18:10:23
May 05 2018 18:09 GMT
#5791
On May 06 2018 02:14 Invictus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2018 01:58 NInoff wrote:
On May 06 2018 00:54 juuto wrote:
This is why you gotta appreciate the Liquid consistency. Some folks were overly harsh on them because they weren't VP but do you want them to be VP now?

Also, I miss last year's Epicenter intros. Not a fan of this year's.


So much with the consistency.Our boys deserved it. You can't get that cocky in picking morph first pick. He was a non factor that entire game. We got what we asked for. I thought that Kuro will draft a morph support, but nope. First time we lose our focus and we look bad. Its the same every time - but i am pretty sure we will not do that in game two. And things will look very different.


oh cmon, morph pick was fine, they just needed miracle to get a good lane so maybe putting him mid wasnt a good idea. if miracle didnt die early a few more times and liquid got out of the laning phase better, they would hit their standard 20min timing push(which they did in this game). the draft was entirely liquid comfort heroes - they just got the lgd train rolling too early and then they lost their timing.

if lgd wasn't as fed liquid will just steamroll them 20min, imagine what would an underfed storm/sandking against underlord + es + veno teamfight to save morph anytime they could get out - what would lgd do? draft was fine, just a few misplays here and there led the game being snowballed out of control

Dude, they got Ahead of laning phase. And so what? Forcing morph into second item BKB means game over. This hero without the shotgun timing is not that scary. So why were LGD fed? Because they got heroes that counter our draft. Chain stun lock for days.
Same happened last game. Draft was OKish , but this time MC played bad, and itemased badly. Tthat Axe + Skyrath combo killed matu's midagme, so there was it.
Just shows how important draft is these days. There are more than two teams with good understanding of the game. So if you draft poor you lose.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 05 2018 18:22 GMT
#5792
I hope Liquid doesn't draft that bad in the grand finals if they even make it.

Second game felt like they lost to a generic meta team while they were picking Ursa and Enigma. Obviously, MC's positioning was horrible, but both Ursa and Enigma didn't look too good either. Dotabuff shows the last time Liquid has had success with Ursa was 7 months ago. It's worthwhile to test out Enigma but Ursa has failed them so many times and has received minimal buffs, I'm not sure why they insist on trying to make him a thing.
Savatage
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy182 Posts
May 05 2018 19:17 GMT
#5793
back to shitty draft i see
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 05 2018 22:09 GMT
#5794
On May 06 2018 04:17 Savatage wrote:
back to shitty draft i see

Coming out of your hole after Liquid lose as usual lmao
Merano
Profile Joined January 2008
Austria105 Posts
May 06 2018 06:58 GMT
#5795
No worries. LGD game was a throw. They had obligations to the sponsors to play a minimum amount of games - this is why they had to go via the losers bracket.
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
May 06 2018 08:11 GMT
#5796
On May 06 2018 04:17 Savatage wrote:
back to shitty draft i see


so dark
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
May 06 2018 10:52 GMT
#5797
sometimes i dont get why kuro gives some enemy teams their comfore heros
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 06 2018 10:56 GMT
#5798
It feels like Liquid doesn't even simply lose tournaments anymore, they do well for a while and then completely bomb out.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 06 2018 12:21 GMT
#5799
On May 06 2018 19:56 juuto wrote:
It feels like Liquid doesn't even simply lose tournaments anymore, they do well for a while and then completely bomb out.

And you need to work on your negativity. The boys are still in it;)
Savatage
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy182 Posts
May 06 2018 12:30 GMT
#5800
so close... this could be somewhat a wake up call i hope.
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