Is there any doubt now this is the best iteration of secret? Started winning tournaments right from the start, and the only Secret to win a Valve event (or even reach the finals)

spudde123

4814 Posts

March 06 2016 21:49 GMT

#2690

Depends how you look at it. In last May-June Secret was probably the most dominant they ever have been, but this team has certainly surpassed that team in terms of performing in the final stages of the biggest tournaments. This lineup also had a "slump" for a bit over a month but that doesn't seem all that meaningful now that we know what happened in Shanghai. The first iteration of Secret was good too but they didn't win LANs and didn't get to play in any huge Valve sponsored events.

hunter_x

Germany2762 Posts

March 06 2016 21:57 GMT

#2691

Well secret really played amazingly well. Such great drafting and team fight coordination. congratulation on wining this major. Of course im still a little bit disappointed, but i have to give credit, where credit is due;)

FuzzyJAM

Scotland9300 Posts

March 06 2016 22:02 GMT

#2692

On March 07 2016 05:54 iamfelps wrote:
Congrats!!

Wait, the players are still without payment?

I don't know if there has been any problems with the current iteration of Secret getting paid. None of them have said there have been any, at any rate.

Regardless, Valve events pay directly to the individual players rather than the team, so it's no problem with a Major.

Evander Berry Wall

United States1137 Posts

March 06 2016 22:33 GMT

#2693

The story seems to be about EE. But I'm really happy for Misery. That guy has been to every single TI on a different team, and his team never seems to get far. Now he has second and first in back to back majors. We'll see if he can take this all the way to TI6.

DE3me

Germany263 Posts

March 06 2016 22:40 GMT

#2694

On March 07 2016 06:20 plasmidghost wrote:
Man it feels good to be an EE-sama fan

I'm sorry to crash your party, but EE was probably the worst carry that ever won a tournament. He played stable in the finals, but he had so many blunders before. So many situations where he died in a completely unnecessary fashion...

I think it was the worst tournament EE played so far and that Secret won had not just nothing to do with EE, but you could say that they somehow managed to despite of EE.
In general the tournament had some incredible weird feeding from nearly every team. I have no idea why, but some players felt as if they let their game sense at home (but in the end nothing beats EEs Ember save on the cliff and instead of tping back blinking into 4 people waiting).
EE vs EG

ch33psh33p

7650 Posts

March 06 2016 23:06 GMT

#2695

On March 07 2016 07:40 DE3me wrote:

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nice salt

there's a reason every pro player in the scene considers EE a top 3 carry, and you're just a miserable NEET at home flaming players

whatever lets you get through the day i guess.

spudde123

4814 Posts

March 06 2016 23:24 GMT

#2696

Idk about the "so many blunders before the finals". He had one bad AM game against EG, but that game was imo lost no matter what he did. And in the Ember game as far as I recall he played fine until the game was already looking to be very much in Secret's favor, had 3-4 very questionable feeds, but at least they weren't at times where EG could get that much done and didn't cost the game.

But other than that idk if I would put down his play really. Against OG in both games they won he played fine, against EG in g1 he did fine. In the upper bracket final Slark game he ended up making some questionable trades but that was after he had pulled TL around the map for a good while to allow Secret to get into a good position. And then there was the entire team feeding into a comeback rapier victory. Not close to a perfect game but a win is a win.

And in general saying that something had nothing to do with a player from the outside is a bit silly. Given the style Secret tends to play I would imagine EE is pretty heavily involved in discussing their strategies, and for example after the upper bracket final PLD gave an interview on Swedish stream saying how after they were down 2 lanes of rax EE took the lead and told the team how to play.

TomatoBisque

United States6290 Posts

March 06 2016 23:34 GMT

#2697

Is there an English translation for that PLD interview?

bagels21

United States4357 Posts

March 06 2016 23:38 GMT

#2698

On March 07 2016 06:57 hunter_x wrote:
Well secret really played amazingly well. Such great drafting and team fight coordination. congratulation on wining this major. Of course im still a little bit disappointed, but i have to give credit, where credit is due;)

Thanks man, liquid was fun to watch this time too, I hope that team stays together (always good to see former c9 guys play well)

spudde123

4814 Posts

March 06 2016 23:50 GMT

#2699

On March 07 2016 08:34 TomatoBisque wrote:
Is there an English translation for that PLD interview?

I don't think so, the twitch vod is also muted due to music on twitch but they've uploaded their other stuff on youtube so maybe that will come there later too so I can listen to it again. I can understand most of it and could translate a bit but maybe there would be some fully native speakers willing to do it here.