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Loka
Profile Joined May 2014
Sweden30 Posts
December 07 2015 18:53 GMT
#2441
i wasnt, i was just saying if they were and im not saying they are id consider the players trash and not worthy of being professional gamers
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 07 2015 18:54 GMT
#2442
My post wasn't specifically at you, but please understand that discussing matchfixing has a time and a place. Here is not the place, and now is not the time.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
December 07 2015 19:34 GMT
#2443
Nobody was discussing or even implying match-fixing. Don't be silly.

There are degrees of 'not trying'. When it comes to Secret, some people were suggesting that perhaps they're kinda waiting on the new patch, perhaps spending some time doing non-Dota things or playing single-player videogames. That would mean they're not trying their absolute hardest. But it's far from match-fixing. It's not that black and white.
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
December 07 2015 21:04 GMT
#2444
Solitude is Secret's first ever sub. Looks like he used to be on Balkan Bears with w33 and played both mid and support

http://www.joindota.com/en/edb/player/18961-solitude
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-07 22:44:20
December 07 2015 22:42 GMT
#2445
I guess there's no downsides to taking a sub and it's a precaution in case someone gets terribly ill or whatever. Interesting to see if they ever end up using them as a standin for some online games or whatever even if the tournament wouldn't be the major and they could use whoever they want.

Concerning Secret's games they did indeed look very stupid in a few. But dota is a very snowbally game, if you are somewhat out of it mentally games can get out of hand fast and then they become a feedfest. I don't know if there was any real reason for it other than the players not maybe really getting into the games after taking a break after majors, but next up for them is WCA so there we should see where they really stand again.

Also there's another sub called distiled (Prokhorenko Nikolay Yurievich). Solitude's name I have seen on some streams and on the leaderboards, this other guy is a total unknown for me.
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
December 08 2015 01:04 GMT
#2446
distiled might just be someone's friend who they got to sign up in case things really really go wrong and one sub isn't enough. as you say, there's no downsides.
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
December 10 2015 07:05 GMT
#2447
So...Secret declined the Summit or...?

Kinda hoping to see them vs EG/OG/VG
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
December 10 2015 07:12 GMT
#2448
On December 10 2015 16:05 brinepumps wrote:
So...Secret declined the Summit or...?

Kinda hoping to see them vs EG/OG/VG

well we can't have everything

they didn't decline, they were in the qualifiers and dropped the qualifier cause that was the time they were gonna travel to some tournament(not sure which one i think nanyang) and they already had too many games that time iirc

this is a quote
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
December 17 2015 07:23 GMT
#2449
With the 6.86, are we going to see Ppy's Mirana jungle?
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
December 17 2015 08:20 GMT
#2450
On December 17 2015 16:23 Racket wrote:
With the 6.86, are we going to see Ppy's Mirana jungle?

Odds are good we'll see some Mirana picks, yeah.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
December 18 2015 03:15 GMT
#2451
So why is Pieliedie tagged as stand in?
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
December 18 2015 04:47 GMT
#2452
On December 18 2015 12:15 the bear jew wrote:
So why is Pieliedie tagged as stand in?

smurf or something
this is a quote
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
December 18 2015 04:50 GMT
#2453
On December 18 2015 13:47 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 12:15 the bear jew wrote:
So why is Pieliedie tagged as stand in?

smurf or something


Ah Gotcha
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-18 22:42:33
December 18 2015 22:41 GMT
#2454
Didnt get to see their matches vs Empire, but they were pretty terrible vs Wings. I don't know whats going on with them. W33ha and Misery are not really performing that well IMO, and the supports don't seem to get much done in the early game. Jacky Mao is playing acceptably - usually mirroring the performance of his team (playing well when team is winning, playing poorly when rest of the team is feeding).

They need to go back to scrimming and figure out the meta I guess.
Envy fan since NTH.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 18 2015 23:58 GMT
#2455
To be fair, they were awful BEFORE THE PATCH also, so theres something else going
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
December 19 2015 01:30 GMT
#2456
Dota is just really competitive so if you're a little off your game you lose.

Puppey's drafts have been bad and everyone on the team has been playing worse. Envy is the least guilty, and Wee has looked a little better than the rest, but even those two are looking less good than when they were winning. I'm hopeful they'll figure out what's up. I still think they're just lacking a little bit of crispness and confidence. Mentality is important.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
December 19 2015 10:48 GMT
#2457
Bizarre considering how crisp they looked at the majors. Plenty of time though
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
December 20 2015 08:06 GMT
#2458
EG lost first round at ESL NY and Vega won, first LAN of the patch. There was a lot more time to prepare for that, too.

Nothing to be remotely concerned about for Secret fans, imo. Still doomsayers and "lol patchteam" being posted everywhere...
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
December 20 2015 08:20 GMT
#2459
They spent time preparing for the last patch and Icefrog changes it on them with 1 day to prepare. Nice.
We decide our own destiny
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 16:13:31
December 20 2015 12:07 GMT
#2460
On December 20 2015 17:06 broodbucket wrote:
EG lost first round at ESL NY and Vega won, first LAN of the patch. There was a lot more time to prepare for that, too.

Nothing to be remotely concerned about for Secret fans, imo. Still doomsayers and "lol patchteam" being posted everywhere...


The concern is also due to them not doing well online in the end of last patch, and then this LAN came. They've had some poor performances in the last 2 weeks or so. But it isn't about the patch, and I don't think it's even due to other teams somehow figuring them out in the end of last patch in the draft. They just played poorly, idk really why.

But that said even some of the best teams sometimes have bad phases. EG lost first round of ESL, EG lost before TI at MLG to London Conspiracy and didn't make it to playoffs. Secret 2.0 almost didn't qualify to SL12 and then got last place at the LAN itself only to start dominating some weeks later. Two weeks of poor play alone is hardly cause for great concern after Secret's play in all tournaments before this unless there is something going on inside the team but that's a bit hard to know.
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