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Not gonna waste any more cash on D3...Reaper of Souls General Discussion - Page 17
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
Not gonna waste any more cash on D3... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:24 birdaholic wrote: lol.. you said it yourself.. "a personal opinion".. at the end of the day its an opinion.. calling someone's opinion stupid just make you more stupid... this is why opinion exists.. would it be much of a difference if i give a "positive" opinion for everyone? .. I would be lying to myself if did give an opinion just to please everybody.. it's an opinion... so... to your words.. "Claiming that because you did not like a game makes the game bad for everyone else is stupid"... what kind of hypocrite world do you live in if everything you see are positive.. stop trying to be smart-ass and undermine someones else perspective.. at some point "negative" or "positive" comments are bound to surface no matter you like it or not.. I didn’t undermine your opinion, you are entitle to not like Diablo 3. I don’t require that you agree with me. However, you analogy still sucked and I am not required to agree with you either. We can disagree. However, that does not make Diabloe 3 a bad game, its just not the game for you. You are entitled to your opinion. However, if you say it out loud, don’t expect everyone to agree with you. And don’t claim people are trying to undermine you by say they don’t agree. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On August 15 2013 04:20 aksfjh wrote: You must not play very many games if you think D3 had the worst writing. Certainly, disappointments abound with the title (not much from me, but I know others), but under no stretch of a reasonable imagination was it bad. Yes, it was God awful. SC2 was horrible, and D3 was even worse. So many plot holes, inconsistencies, and terrible lines that it's just inexcusable. | ||
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Karok
Netherlands142 Posts
On August 15 2013 04:20 aksfjh wrote: You must not play very many games if you think D3 had the worst writing. Certainly, disappointments abound with the title (not much from me, but I know others), but under no stretch of a reasonable imagination was it bad. D3's story telling was an epic fail though. Killing off cain, a character that could have been SO SO much more. Bosses that are as dimwitted as they are cliche. The entire storyline of D3 can be written down in less then half a page, if it would include the "rich" character development (hahah I said character development in the same line as D3). Sure there are games with worse story telling, but we (or atleast.. I) expected a much deeper and richer story than this POS as a continuation of the D1 and D2 stories, from a company that used to be good at this shite. Anyone remember the WC3 story f/e ? as a continuation of WC2? I felt it was miles better than the D3 one at least. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:35 Karok wrote: D3's story telling was an epic fail though. Killing off cain, a character that could have been SO SO much more. Bosses that are as dimwitted as they are cliche. The entire storyline of D3 can be written down in less then half a page, if it would include the "rich" character development (hahah I said character development in the same line as D3). Sure there are games with worse story telling, but we (or atleast.. I) expected a much deeper and richer story than this POS as a continuation of the D1 and D2 stories, from a company that used to be good at this shite. Anyone remember the WC3 story f/e ? as a continuation of WC2? I felt it was miles better than the D3 one at least. The story was pretty lack luster, but most Blizzard stories are. They have been sort of middling for a while now and I hope they get the writing talent in the next year or so. They were top notch when they were competing Doom and C&C, but now they are dealing with Bioshock Infinite, Walking Dead and Last of Us. They need to get back up to the bar. | ||
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GrimZeRo
United States113 Posts
Sorry blizzard, I wont be fooled again. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:46 Noonius wrote: actually it'll be this: Blizzard acquired Grinding Gear Games and will be integrating Path of Exile into Diablo 3. I would buy that lol. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:42 Plansix wrote: The story was pretty lack luster, but most Blizzard stories are. They have been sort of middling for a while now and I hope they get the writing talent in the next year or so. They were top notch when they were competing Doom and C&C, but now they are dealing with Bioshock Infinite, Walking Dead and Last of Us. They need to get back up to the bar. The problem with D3 story is that it ends up killing the atmosphere. Since all those terrible dialogue are shoved down the player's throat all of the adventure becomes a laughing stock. Diablo 1 and 2 stories also had a paper-thin bad plot but at least they achieved to build up the atmosphere to still enjoy the adventure. The most infuriating thing is that they got very good artists and sound designers but the writing is just terrible overall, its pretty easy to see if you ever watch some of their lore conference at blizzcon; they are just terrible but actually think what they are doing is cool and stuff. | ||
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gosublade
632 Posts
On August 15 2013 04:40 Plansix wrote: Your hilarious, trying to pass your opinion off as fact. There are a ton of written reviews for the game on Metacritic that disagree, saying the game was great. There are also a ton of opions of people who didn’t like that game and decided to review bomb it. Just because a lot of people on the internet agree with you on TL does not mean that the whole world did. Its just the people here. For every ton of positive reviews there are gazillion tonnes of bad ones. The game was a flop. I haven't read d3 tl threads at all, but I'm sure majority says it sucks. Every unedited forum does. Get a hint. Blizz is still awesome, and every single game can't be hit. The Kings in the North have disbanded. The soul of diablo is evaporated. Forever live Diablo2. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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birdaholic
United States67 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:31 Plansix wrote: I didn’t undermine your opinion, you are entitle to not like Diablo 3. I don’t require that you agree with me. However, you analogy still sucked and I am not required to agree with you either. We can disagree. However, that does not make Diabloe 3 a bad game, its just not the game for you. You are entitled to your opinion. However, if you say it out loud, don’t expect everyone to agree with you. And don’t claim people are trying to undermine you by say they don’t agree. WOW.. Labeling someone "stupid" is not undermining? wow.. The analogy is not the point.. I could use a freaking lawn mower or vacuum cleaner as my analogy to describe my thoughts, it's still not the point. Since when do we require someones confirmation just to validate the existence of a person's opinion.. That's why people ask someone "What do you think of this?" Answer: "etc etc etc"... or "How do you feel about that" Ans: "bla bla bla" .... They give their opinions and that's it. Some people could care less about the response. Referring back to my original post and opinion: "It is what it is. A bad game is a bad game" How is my opinion considered "out loud". Did I write it in caps or something? I'm not claiming other people a.k.a YOU... just because you didn't agree of my opinion. It's because you labeled it as "stupid" ... lol.. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
the only problem with the d3 story was that i couldn't press spacebar/ESC fast enough to bypass. video game stories are so stupid (all of them) and i hate the amount of dialogue that developers put in their games nowadays. if i wanted to read, i would buy a book. cutscenes are separate. blizzard has always had the most amazing cutscenes and those are fun to watch. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:55 Caihead wrote: Sometimes I wonder if people go on community sites just to carry out their personal vendetta against video games producers. Get something better to do already, it's a piece of entertainment media that's very much a luxury for a great part of the world that is probably a minute part of your disposable income if you decide to waste time spewing hate for hours on internet forums. There's plenty of better things to hate, like oil companies, or arms manufacturers, or middle eastern theocratic dictatorships. This argument is so tired and old. Just because there are many things worth getting angry about in the world doesn't mean people can't be disappointed in the game that Diablo 3 turned out to be. In my case, and it seems like many others based on what people say, I played Diablo 2 for hundreds, if not thousands of hours, and it was a huge part of my childhood. It took me years to get sick of playing that game, and it was relatively shallow compared to what technology was capable of accomplishing in 2012. Diablo 3 was a chance for Blizzard to bring that experience into the 21st Century and deliver another game worthy of my sleepless nights, and they just flat out didn't deliver. I played it, probably for around 60 hours. I would call that getting my money's worth out of the game if it were any other IP from any other developer. But this is Diablo, and like D2, SC:BW, SC2, and WoW, I expected to be sucked in and wasn't. It's the only Blizzard game that I have only played for a few weeks and then given up on. If it was just another game released by Activision, it wouldn't have received nearly the same amount of hate, it's true. But don't fault people for seeing it as a missed opportunity to deliver something special. Because that's exactly what happened. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 15 2013 06:04 dAPhREAk wrote: the story, lol. the only problem with the d3 story was that i couldn't press spacebar/ESC fast enough to bypass. video game stories are so stupid (all of them) and i hate the amount of dialogue that developers put in their games nowadays. if i wanted to read, i would buy a book. cutscenes are separate. blizzard has always had the most amazing cutscenes and those are fun to watch. Whoa, whoa whoa, all stories is a bit much. You should play the Walking Dead for a very well writen story. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On August 15 2013 06:06 Plansix wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa, all stories is a bit much. You should play the Walking Dead for a very well writen story. every. fucking. game. i especially hate the newest RPGs where you actually have to make choices and the choices affect the gameplay. dragon age comes to mind. are you evil, or are you nice? fuck. that. i just want to kill shit. every game should have the option of turning off dialogue and stupid stories. kill shit, cutscene of me killing shit in epic fashion, kill more shit. if i wanted to converse, i would move out of my mother's basement. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 15 2013 06:10 dAPhREAk wrote: every. fucking. game. i especially hate the newest RPGs where you actually have to make choices and the choices affect the gameplay. dragon age comes to mind. are you evil, or are you nice? fuck. that. i just want to kill shit. every game should have the option of turning off dialogue and stupid stories. kill shit, cutscene of me killing shit in epic fashion, kill more shit. if i wanted to converse, i would move out of my mother's basement. Ok, never mind, don't play the walking dead then. It does the dragon age thing, but instead of good and evil, it is just a line of terrible choices and a time limit. There is not good option, only shades of bad. | ||
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Karok
Netherlands142 Posts
Gameplay ( == choice! )includes: level design -> crappy, static never changing linear(dare I say.. on-rails..), only some inside-blocks change a bit -> no choice. itemization -> everything is mainstat+vit+crit+chd+ias+avg-dmg and the rest is crap -> no choice character stats -> automated, no choice character skills -> many crappy skills/runes -> cookiecutter builds containing the only viable skills -> little to no choice. combat -> fluent but nothing specta.clickclickclickclick :D | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:54 gosublade wrote: For every ton of positive reviews there are gazillion tonnes of bad ones. The game was a flop. I haven't read d3 tl threads at all, but I'm sure majority says it sucks. Every unedited forum does. Get a hint. Blizz is still awesome, and every single game can't be hit. The Kings in the North have disbanded. The soul of diablo is evaporated. Forever live Diablo2. All all the major review sites loved it. And I don't really take reviews by people who are willing to create a metacritic account just to bomb a games review score as evidence of anything. And TL isn't the whole world. On August 15 2013 06:12 Karok wrote: Imo its just the most important part of the game that is utter rubbish (gameplay + story) while the other parts (graphics, music, cinematics are pretteh ok) Gameplay ( == choice! )includes: level design -> crappy, static never changing linear(dare I say.. on-rails..), only some inside-blocks change a bit -> no choice. itemization -> everything is mainstat+vit+crit+chd+ias+avg-dmg and the rest is crap -> no choice character stats -> automated, no choice character skills -> many crappy skills/runes -> cookiecutter builds containing the only viable skills -> little to no choice. combat -> fluent but nothing specta.clickclickclickclick :D Skill trees suck. They might as well be labeled: Grind to make money to get a respec at some point because you won't like what you picked. And Diablo 2 can be summed up with "click on the devil until he explodes. With loot." | ||
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Karok
Netherlands142 Posts
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