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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 14 2013 19:28 GMT
#301
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
August 14 2013 19:36 GMT
#302
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.

You wanna turn it into Call of Duty?
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
August 14 2013 19:36 GMT
#303
On August 15 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?


Diablo 3 is a lackluster game in every other aspect but marketing. This is not a matter of opinion, just simple observation like we do on WW2 villans.
Not even death can save you from me.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 14 2013 19:36 GMT
#304
On August 15 2013 02:19 FeyFey wrote:
The D2 AH called Ebay even made it into the news in Germany. Only difference is you couldn't hate the developer for it really. Which would happen in todays world anyway. Why don't you have an AH to make it easier for us and why do you allow ebaying !
Will be interesting what they will do in the expansion, they have free hand to throw in new stats and equipment that is focused on team pvp.
They could even steal from other games and create gear that works just on PvP maps, to not screw with PvM.

I am still undecided when to buy it. Get it first second farm the crap out of it to finance the game. Or wait till some reviews are out. I mean there were enough spoilers in the original to know what will happen in the expansions story.

So true. D2 had a ton of itemshops and d2jsp which was HUGE and a lot of people spent money there for trading. So basically, the d2 fanbase showed blizzard that they wished to spend money on items. Blizzard just obeyed.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 19:39:40
August 14 2013 19:38 GMT
#305
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...

okay.

On August 15 2013 04:36 wongfeihung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.

You wanna turn it into Call of Duty?

never played, so dont get the reference.

On August 15 2013 04:36 gosublade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?


Diablo 3 is a lackluster game in every other aspect but marketing. This is not a matter of opinion, just simple observation like we do on WW2 villans.

thats actually a matter of opinion...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 14 2013 19:40 GMT
#306
On August 15 2013 04:36 gosublade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?


Diablo 3 is a lackluster game in every other aspect but marketing. This is not a matter of opinion, just simple observation like we do on WW2 villans.


Your hilarious, trying to pass your opinion off as fact. There are a ton of written reviews for the game on Metacritic that disagree, saying the game was great. There are also a ton of opions of people who didn’t like that game and decided to review bomb it.

Just because a lot of people on the internet agree with you on TL does not mean that the whole world did. Its just the people here.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
August 14 2013 19:40 GMT
#307
On August 15 2013 04:00 Plansix wrote:
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On August 15 2013 03:37 Fyrewolf wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:09 Mohdoo wrote:
I'm on the "fuck the AH" train. I really think it would be a better game if it had D2'esque custom rooms for trade etc. So much more fun.


I don't think it's the ah itself that is the problem. Custom rooms for trades isn't just archaic, it's also really difficult to actually get a trade going for an item you actually want. There's a reason the real world has moved away from the barter system; finding one guy out of millions that has the thing you want, and you having the thing one thing in millions that he wants is not a fun game of probabilities to play. The ah isn't the best system, but it's a vast improvement in practicality.

My issue isn't the ah making finding items less fun, but that the item design is terrible. The random properties on the items just feel like samey fluff because they're all based around uninteresting stats, you always just look for mainstat and vit and there's nothing that makes the item feel different from others. None of the items really feel unique, even the uniques. Where are the fun utility magic affixes to combine, faster cast rate, hit recovery, damage taken goes to mana, being struck/attack has chance to cause spell, light radius, blocking, charged items? Where's the unique specials like flamebellow letting me use inferno, or runeword to turn into wolf, or get special auras? That's what makes the game so mediocre for me. Farming so that I can get 50 more vit on an item is not interesting; farming something like Trang-Ouls Avatar so I can get new techniques/abilities/etc. that can completely change the way I can play is.


Blizzard has said they want to update the loot system and provide for more unique items and the ability to get interesting items early on in the game. That is really all I need

• Updated loot system with better loot that is more fun
• Optional “Classic mode” that removes the AH option that character


I would also need
• Skill tree system w/ spell damage that is independant from weapon dps
• Ability to spend attribute points
• Randomly generated environments that are actually random
• Ability to bind more than 4 hotkeys
• Ability to have more than 4 players in a game
• Completely revamped itemization
• The Men in Black to come to my house and wipe my memory about how bad D3 was at release
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 19:43:17
August 14 2013 19:42 GMT
#308
On August 15 2013 04:40 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:36 gosublade wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?


Diablo 3 is a lackluster game in every other aspect but marketing. This is not a matter of opinion, just simple observation like we do on WW2 villans.


Your hilarious, trying to pass your opinion off as fact. There are a ton of written reviews for the game on Metacritic that disagree, saying the game was great. There are also a ton of opions of people who didn’t like that game and decided to review bomb it.

Just because a lot of people on the internet agree with you on TL does not mean that the whole world did. Its just the people here.

Yikes, judging by the state of the enthusiast press, I don't really know why that's good for you. Diablo 3 had to take its own lead dev off the game, that doesn't happen because things went well. It deconstructed the most important parts of Diablo 2 and failed to compensate even a little bit. It was a game that was good for newcomers perhaps and horrible for most veterans, It was the classic example of games that sell well not necessarily being good.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#309
blizzard hype always never lets me down. cant wait to spend 60bucks on their next thing.
Skol
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 14 2013 19:49 GMT
#310
On August 15 2013 04:42 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:40 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:36 gosublade wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?


Diablo 3 is a lackluster game in every other aspect but marketing. This is not a matter of opinion, just simple observation like we do on WW2 villans.


Your hilarious, trying to pass your opinion off as fact. There are a ton of written reviews for the game on Metacritic that disagree, saying the game was great. There are also a ton of opions of people who didn’t like that game and decided to review bomb it.

Just because a lot of people on the internet agree with you on TL does not mean that the whole world did. Its just the people here.

Yikes, judging by the state of the enthusiast press, I don't really know why that's good for you. Diablo 3 had to take its own lead dev off the game, that doesn't happen because things went well. It deconstructed the most important parts of Diablo 2 and failed to compensate even a little bit. It was a game that was good for newcomers perhaps and horrible for most veterans, It was the classic example of games that sell well not necessarily being good.


WTF is the “enthusiast press”? Is that some term used by people who want to discount reviews as things written by “fanboys” who want to become friends with the developer and get a job later on? I read a number of reviews for Diablo 3 from a large number of websites, including the gold standard for reviewing Giant Bomb, who gives not shits. They all liked the game.

I know its hard for people to believe, but there are people out there that liked Diablo 3 and did not buy into the internet hate train on the game. I know everyone here agrees with you, but that does not mean that the rest of the world does. I could find a website where everyone agrees the world if flat too.

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
August 14 2013 19:55 GMT
#311
On August 15 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:42 Serpico wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:40 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:36 gosublade wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?


Diablo 3 is a lackluster game in every other aspect but marketing. This is not a matter of opinion, just simple observation like we do on WW2 villans.


Your hilarious, trying to pass your opinion off as fact. There are a ton of written reviews for the game on Metacritic that disagree, saying the game was great. There are also a ton of opions of people who didn’t like that game and decided to review bomb it.

Just because a lot of people on the internet agree with you on TL does not mean that the whole world did. Its just the people here.

Yikes, judging by the state of the enthusiast press, I don't really know why that's good for you. Diablo 3 had to take its own lead dev off the game, that doesn't happen because things went well. It deconstructed the most important parts of Diablo 2 and failed to compensate even a little bit. It was a game that was good for newcomers perhaps and horrible for most veterans, It was the classic example of games that sell well not necessarily being good.


WTF is the “enthusiast press”? Is that some term used by people who want to discount reviews as things written by “fanboys” who want to become friends with the developer and get a job later on? I read a number of reviews for Diablo 3 from a large number of websites, including the gold standard for reviewing Giant Bomb, who gives not shits. They all liked the game.

I know its hard for people to believe, but there are people out there that liked Diablo 3 and did not buy into the internet hate train on the game. I know everyone here agrees with you, but that does not mean that the rest of the world does. I could find a website where everyone agrees the world if flat too.


I liked the game, got repetitive at some point, but so did Diablo 1 which I still loved and have fond childhood memories of. Having recently returned to D3 and spinning with my WW barb is really fun
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 14 2013 19:58 GMT
#312
99.9% Diablo expansion announcement. Good place to do it since they will probably announce new wow expansion at blizzcon and they cant really have 2 major announcements in one event
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
August 14 2013 19:59 GMT
#313
On August 15 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:42 Serpico wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:40 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:36 gosublade wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?


Diablo 3 is a lackluster game in every other aspect but marketing. This is not a matter of opinion, just simple observation like we do on WW2 villans.


Your hilarious, trying to pass your opinion off as fact. There are a ton of written reviews for the game on Metacritic that disagree, saying the game was great. There are also a ton of opions of people who didn’t like that game and decided to review bomb it.

Just because a lot of people on the internet agree with you on TL does not mean that the whole world did. Its just the people here.

Yikes, judging by the state of the enthusiast press, I don't really know why that's good for you. Diablo 3 had to take its own lead dev off the game, that doesn't happen because things went well. It deconstructed the most important parts of Diablo 2 and failed to compensate even a little bit. It was a game that was good for newcomers perhaps and horrible for most veterans, It was the classic example of games that sell well not necessarily being good.


WTF is the “enthusiast press”? Is that some term used by people who want to discount reviews as things written by “fanboys” who want to become friends with the developer and get a job later on? I read a number of reviews for Diablo 3 from a large number of websites, including the gold standard for reviewing Giant Bomb, who gives not shits. They all liked the game.

I know its hard for people to believe, but there are people out there that liked Diablo 3 and did not buy into the internet hate train on the game. I know everyone here agrees with you, but that does not mean that the rest of the world does. I could find a website where everyone agrees the world if flat too.



Pretending that diablo 3 wasn't a let down is an odd thing to hear.

I am not saying diablo 3 was horrible, it just wasn't as good as nearly everyone hoped it would be.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 20:03:05
August 14 2013 20:01 GMT
#314
i would like the game if there was any way to itemize your character aside from from just stacking the only attributes that matter (stat+vit, resist, crit + crit damage, attack speed, life leech). where's the creativity?

edit: that whole thing, it's really been beaten to death though. maybe they can salvage something with the expansion, but i suspect it won't change any of the deeper issues that plague d3.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 14 2013 20:03 GMT
#315
On August 15 2013 04:59 tpmraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:42 Serpico wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:40 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:36 gosublade wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?


Diablo 3 is a lackluster game in every other aspect but marketing. This is not a matter of opinion, just simple observation like we do on WW2 villans.


Your hilarious, trying to pass your opinion off as fact. There are a ton of written reviews for the game on Metacritic that disagree, saying the game was great. There are also a ton of opions of people who didn’t like that game and decided to review bomb it.

Just because a lot of people on the internet agree with you on TL does not mean that the whole world did. Its just the people here.

Yikes, judging by the state of the enthusiast press, I don't really know why that's good for you. Diablo 3 had to take its own lead dev off the game, that doesn't happen because things went well. It deconstructed the most important parts of Diablo 2 and failed to compensate even a little bit. It was a game that was good for newcomers perhaps and horrible for most veterans, It was the classic example of games that sell well not necessarily being good.


WTF is the “enthusiast press”? Is that some term used by people who want to discount reviews as things written by “fanboys” who want to become friends with the developer and get a job later on? I read a number of reviews for Diablo 3 from a large number of websites, including the gold standard for reviewing Giant Bomb, who gives not shits. They all liked the game.

I know its hard for people to believe, but there are people out there that liked Diablo 3 and did not buy into the internet hate train on the game. I know everyone here agrees with you, but that does not mean that the rest of the world does. I could find a website where everyone agrees the world if flat too.



Pretending that diablo 3 wasn't a let down is an odd thing to hear.

I am not saying diablo 3 was horrible, it just wasn't as good as nearly everyone hoped it would be.

nothing is.

nobody is saying diablo 3 doesnt have problems, but for me personally, the game was amazing. i spent over 600 hours playing it, and have not once regretted the money i spent on it. indeed, other than starcraft, there has been no better investment of money for time spent on game.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 14 2013 20:04 GMT
#316
On August 15 2013 04:59 tpmraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:42 Serpico wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:40 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:36 gosublade wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:25 Manit0u wrote:
On August 15 2013 04:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could have the exact same game in every way, and just offer two additional character classes and i would happily pay $60. diablo is fun. some people just take it way too seriously.


I agree, Diablo is fun, Diablo II and Diablo III not so much...


Ah, I see what you did there. He didn’t say Diablo 3 was fun. Very…..well its not really witty or anything since people have their own opinions. But...nice try?


Diablo 3 is a lackluster game in every other aspect but marketing. This is not a matter of opinion, just simple observation like we do on WW2 villans.


Your hilarious, trying to pass your opinion off as fact. There are a ton of written reviews for the game on Metacritic that disagree, saying the game was great. There are also a ton of opions of people who didn’t like that game and decided to review bomb it.

Just because a lot of people on the internet agree with you on TL does not mean that the whole world did. Its just the people here.

Yikes, judging by the state of the enthusiast press, I don't really know why that's good for you. Diablo 3 had to take its own lead dev off the game, that doesn't happen because things went well. It deconstructed the most important parts of Diablo 2 and failed to compensate even a little bit. It was a game that was good for newcomers perhaps and horrible for most veterans, It was the classic example of games that sell well not necessarily being good.


WTF is the “enthusiast press”? Is that some term used by people who want to discount reviews as things written by “fanboys” who want to become friends with the developer and get a job later on? I read a number of reviews for Diablo 3 from a large number of websites, including the gold standard for reviewing Giant Bomb, who gives not shits. They all liked the game.

I know its hard for people to believe, but there are people out there that liked Diablo 3 and did not buy into the internet hate train on the game. I know everyone here agrees with you, but that does not mean that the rest of the world does. I could find a website where everyone agrees the world if flat too.



Pretending that diablo 3 wasn't a let down is an odd thing to hear.

I am not saying diablo 3 was horrible, it just wasn't as good as nearly everyone hoped it would be.

Some peoples standards were a little unreasonable and expected 7000 hours of gameplay for $60. I got about 70 and I'm pretty happy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
birdaholic
Profile Joined September 2011
United States67 Posts
August 14 2013 20:08 GMT
#317
I remember when I was in high school where I got a very minor quiz score of a 49/100 which is a failure because 50 was the passing score. I asked her nicely to give me a break and be generous once in a while.
Her response was: "49 is not a 50.. even 49.9999 has never been a 50, thus it's fail".

Anyhow
my point is.... It is what it is. Bad game is a Bad game.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 14 2013 20:10 GMT
#318
On August 15 2013 05:08 birdaholic wrote:
I remember when I was in high school where I got a very minor quiz score of a 49/100 which is a failure because 50 was the passing score. I asked her nicely to give me a break and be generous once in a while.
Her response was: "49 is not a 50.. even 49.9999 has never been a 50, thus it's fail".

Anyhow
my point is.... It is what it is. Bad game is a Bad game.

Your analogy comparing math to people opinions of preference kinda sucks. Math has a correct answer. Personal opinion does not. Claiming that because you did not like a game makes the game bad for everyone else is stupid.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
August 14 2013 20:14 GMT
#319
I will buy the expansion, have fun for like 50 hours and move on, same way I did with Diablo 1, 2 and 3. Never understood the long term appeal of Diablo 2, endless grinding for perfect items or level 99 is just not my thing.
birdaholic
Profile Joined September 2011
United States67 Posts
August 14 2013 20:24 GMT
#320
On August 15 2013 05:10 Plansix wrote:
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On August 15 2013 05:08 birdaholic wrote:
I remember when I was in high school where I got a very minor quiz score of a 49/100 which is a failure because 50 was the passing score. I asked her nicely to give me a break and be generous once in a while.
Her response was: "49 is not a 50.. even 49.9999 has never been a 50, thus it's fail".

Anyhow
my point is.... It is what it is. Bad game is a Bad game.

Your analogy comparing math to people opinions of preference kinda sucks. Math has a correct answer. Personal opinion does not. Claiming that because you did not like a game makes the game bad for everyone else is stupid.


lol.. you said it yourself.. "a personal opinion".. at the end of the day its an opinion.. calling someone's opinion stupid just make you more stupid...

this is why opinion exists.. would it be much of a difference if i give a "positive" opinion for everyone? .. I would be lying to myself if did give an opinion just to please everybody.. it's an opinion...

so... to your words.. "Claiming that because you did not like a game makes the game bad for everyone else is stupid"...
what kind of hypocrite world do you live in if everything you see are positive..

stop trying to be smart-ass and undermine someones else perspective.. at some point "negative" or "positive" comments are bound to surface no matter you like it or not..
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