• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:20
CET 14:20
KST 22:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies1ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1462 users

Diablo 1+2 dev criticizes D3, new devs respond - Page 8

Forum Index > Diablo 3
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 12 Next All
dekwaz
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand61 Posts
August 21 2012 04:33 GMT
#141
Holy crap just finished reading the Patch Notes for 1.0.4 ... Looks pretty good on paper.

However I think more like this patch was a result of the community's effort (whiners and opinions alike) and after yesterday's shitstorm I think the devs rather did this begrudgedly, just to shut the fucking losers up. Haha

But still, at least they're still willing to adapt to the situation and I salute you (for now) Sir Jay - he of the pony t-shirt.

Still, do you think they could have just added levels 61-100 and just added the stats (gf mf stats whatever) and called it 'levels' instead of 'paragons'?
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 21 2012 04:40 GMT
#142
On August 21 2012 13:33 dekwaz wrote:
Holy crap just finished reading the Patch Notes for 1.0.4 ... Looks pretty good on paper.

However I think more like this patch was a result of the community's effort (whiners and opinions alike) and after yesterday's shitstorm I think the devs rather did this begrudgedly, just to shut the fucking losers up. Haha

But still, at least they're still willing to adapt to the situation and I salute you (for now) Sir Jay - he of the pony t-shirt.

Still, do you think they could have just added levels 61-100 and just added the stats (gf mf stats whatever) and called it 'levels' instead of 'paragons'?


why you calling the community who gave their opinions and ultimately had them implemented - "fucking losers"?

it is definitely great progress, but they are moving more towards D2 style and this should have been 1.0 rather than 1.04....
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 04:41:11
August 21 2012 04:40 GMT
#143
Well here's a comment from jay wilson on the situation:

Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident.


http://www.gamebase.com.tw/forum/61898/topic/95194419/1#ixzz249VVng5d

It's a chinese website..google garbled the translation a bit, but quite understandable.
dekwaz
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand61 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 04:50:31
August 21 2012 04:43 GMT
#144
On August 21 2012 13:40 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 13:33 dekwaz wrote:
Holy crap just finished reading the Patch Notes for 1.0.4 ... Looks pretty good on paper.

However I think more like this patch was a result of the community's effort (whiners and opinions alike) and after yesterday's shitstorm I think the devs rather did this begrudgedly, just to shut the fucking losers up. Haha

But still, at least they're still willing to adapt to the situation and I salute you (for now) Sir Jay - he of the pony t-shirt.

Still, do you think they could have just added levels 61-100 and just added the stats (gf mf stats whatever) and called it 'levels' instead of 'paragons'?


why you calling the community who gave their opinions and ultimately had them implemented - "fucking losers"?

it is definitely great progress, but they are moving more towards D2 style and this should have been 1.0 rather than 1.04....


It was a joke.

I was referencing Jay's comment from yesterday, not calling out the community -_-"

If the current Blizzard brass can think that of the CREATOR of the damn franchise, then what does he think of us - the mass gold pieces?
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
August 21 2012 04:51 GMT
#145
Marvel Heros looks dope as fuck. I'm down for that when it comes out.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
August 21 2012 04:58 GMT
#146
Omg he swore, im never buying a fucking game from him again
¯\_(☺)_/¯
Tiamat
Profile Joined February 2003
United States498 Posts
August 21 2012 05:03 GMT
#147
I just wanna know which one of these assholes put Diablo in high-heels so i can stick a foot up their ass
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 21 2012 05:19 GMT
#148
On August 21 2012 11:28 screamingpalm wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/y3CsB.png

LOL saw this on bnet forum... wonder how many moles hang out on TL?


holy shit LOL it's like they're trying to lose all respect from the community on purpose.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 05:36:35
August 21 2012 05:29 GMT
#149
Let's face it guys, if the D3 team thought they did an amazing job, they wouldn't have even responded to the interview. It's because they probably think to themselves how badly they screwed up that as soon as it's pointed out, especially by one of the creators of the franchise they worked on, they get really angry. It's like if you told your very successful friend "you're a loser", he'd probably laugh. Whereas if you told ur desperately-trying-to-succeed friend "you're a loser", he'd probably take it really personally (coz he knows it's true) and freak the shit out.



On August 21 2012 13:40 dartoo wrote:
Well here's a comment from jay wilson on the situation:

Show nested quote +
Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident.


http://www.gamebase.com.tw/forum/61898/topic/95194419/1#ixzz249VVng5d

It's a chinese website..google garbled the translation a bit, but quite understandable.





Here's the translation of the last line:
Q: Finally, since last night a screenshot of a series of Facebook messages started spreading on the internet regarding the interview between David Brevik and INGgamers. You wrote a message saying "Fuck that loser". Did you mean what you wrote? Or is it just the internet making it up?

A: This...yes I did write that message. It's just that from the start we thought it was a private, non-public chat, and it wasn't our intention to publicize the conversation. It is a really regrettable accident.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
August 21 2012 05:53 GMT
#150
On August 21 2012 14:29 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Let's face it guys, if the D3 team thought they did an amazing job, they wouldn't have even responded to the interview. It's because they probably think to themselves how badly they screwed up that as soon as it's pointed out, especially by one of the creators of the franchise they worked on, they get really angry. It's like if you told your very successful friend "you're a loser", he'd probably laugh. Whereas if you told ur desperately-trying-to-succeed friend "you're a loser", he'd probably take it really personally (coz he knows it's true) and freak the shit out.



Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 13:40 dartoo wrote:
Well here's a comment from jay wilson on the situation:

Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident.


http://www.gamebase.com.tw/forum/61898/topic/95194419/1#ixzz249VVng5d

It's a chinese website..google garbled the translation a bit, but quite understandable.





Here's the translation of the last line:
Q: Finally, since last night a screenshot of a series of Facebook messages started spreading on the internet regarding the interview between David Brevik and INGgamers. You wrote a message saying "Fuck that loser". Did you mean what you wrote? Or is it just the internet making it up?

A: This...yes I did write that message. It's just that from the start we thought it was a private, non-public chat, and it wasn't our intention to publicize the conversation. It is a really regrettable accident.


You could either go emo and lash out or you can make it productive and stick it to them through actions. This patch is a step in the right direction but it doesn't change the fact that they did screw up. They should suck it up and take it because they know they should know they deserved it. If they can patch the game up to game's satisfaction than we will still be enjoying the game in a few years with the expansions. I'm sure the community will be forgiving. If they don't then there won't be a next installment.
aicaramba
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands110 Posts
August 21 2012 06:58 GMT
#151
Ohhh. So its was meant as a private message.. Then its ok to call the original creator of the franchise a loser..
No harm done!! Riiight..
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
August 21 2012 07:05 GMT
#152
"Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident."

even if he thought its private still a sad reaction by those newschool blizzard guys. iam dissapointed.
Total Annihilation Zero
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 21 2012 07:22 GMT
#153
On August 21 2012 14:53 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 14:29 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Let's face it guys, if the D3 team thought they did an amazing job, they wouldn't have even responded to the interview. It's because they probably think to themselves how badly they screwed up that as soon as it's pointed out, especially by one of the creators of the franchise they worked on, they get really angry. It's like if you told your very successful friend "you're a loser", he'd probably laugh. Whereas if you told ur desperately-trying-to-succeed friend "you're a loser", he'd probably take it really personally (coz he knows it's true) and freak the shit out.



On August 21 2012 13:40 dartoo wrote:
Well here's a comment from jay wilson on the situation:

Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident.


http://www.gamebase.com.tw/forum/61898/topic/95194419/1#ixzz249VVng5d

It's a chinese website..google garbled the translation a bit, but quite understandable.





Here's the translation of the last line:
Q: Finally, since last night a screenshot of a series of Facebook messages started spreading on the internet regarding the interview between David Brevik and INGgamers. You wrote a message saying "Fuck that loser". Did you mean what you wrote? Or is it just the internet making it up?

A: This...yes I did write that message. It's just that from the start we thought it was a private, non-public chat, and it wasn't our intention to publicize the conversation. It is a really regrettable accident.


You could either go emo and lash out or you can make it productive and stick it to them through actions. This patch is a step in the right direction but it doesn't change the fact that they did screw up. They should suck it up and take it because they know they should know they deserved it. If they can patch the game up to game's satisfaction than we will still be enjoying the game in a few years with the expansions. I'm sure the community will be forgiving. If they don't then there won't be a next installment.



The amount of damage that is being done is hilarious. Blizzard is pretty much destroying any shred of credibility they still had among various "hardcore" gamers (the core of their fanbase). Between some really iffy balance decisions in SC2 and the disaster of Diablo 3, I'm not seeing how Blizzard survives much longer other than dying a really slow and painful death with WoW.
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
August 21 2012 07:27 GMT
#154
This is what happens when you hire ex-Relic to do your work for you. Why can't Blizzard just promote from within instead of hiring outside "talent" to lead their projects?
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
QLIQ
Profile Joined July 2012
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 07:43:17
August 21 2012 07:38 GMT
#155
so to them it is acceptable behavior to talk shit behind someones back.. doesn't surprise me at all, many people are like that.
and the only reason why these guys aren't losers is why? they might as well be calling themselves fucking losers. lots of people put on fake ass persona's so they can make it through the day but god damn i would rather be a douchebag and open about it than be a fake ass mother fucker like jay wilson who does the talking when the back is turned.
i love 7-eleven and an education isn't always obtained through a school's education.. it's great that its there tho for those who do that stuff.
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
August 21 2012 07:54 GMT
#156
This won't exactly draw people's admiration, but they can say whatever they want in a private conversation. As a customer of theirs I'm interested in obtaining a good product, not policing their language.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
August 21 2012 08:06 GMT
#157
On August 20 2012 23:53 Barrin wrote:
...What the fuck.

I can't believe Jay actually said "fuck you, loser" to David Brevik, co-founder of Blizzard North and the Diablo franchise.

You might as well say the same thing to me and all Diablo fans.

What's even harder to believe is that I was actually defending Jay before this. No more.

I think we need more nuance here. Does JW really lashes out or is his statement meant to be considered in a context? Would JW really call Brevik a loser for being open in an interview? It obviously isn't meant literally.

You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
August 21 2012 08:15 GMT
#158
Oh my god he dare to be disrespectful on someone he shouldnt! Lets burn him.
Of course he should learn proper internet behaviour from our tl comminity we would never dare be dirsespectful to some... oh wait


All that useless drama. They're human its allrigh

Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9408 Posts
August 21 2012 08:27 GMT
#159
On August 21 2012 09:17 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 08:18 happyness wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:35 IamPryda wrote:
If I was blizzard I would fire jay Wilson. Based on pure sales diablo 3 did great but clearly this was just a piggy back off the diablo franchise name. Blizzard is a company known for taking its
Time developing games making sure they are perfect before release, diablo 3 did not meet this standard. In fact between the big 3; Warcraft Starcraft and diablo franchises this is really the first failure of the three.


Uh, in your opinion. A lot of people consider SC2 to be a failure. In terms of sales it definately was not a failure. And it seems to be the consensus among the community that the game is very good for the first 60 hours or so, which is way more than you can get from the majority of any game.

But back on topic, how in the hell could Jay Wilson be so careless? Does he not know that people can take screenshots of FB? The interview wasn't even that bad either. Brevik was politely saying that he didn't like the game. How is that throwing anyone under the bus?


I enjoyed Diablo 3 for the first 60 hours, but have no desire to ever play it again after that point. That's a failure for a Blizzard game. Every Blizzard game I have played (SC, BW, WC3, WoW, D2, SC2) up until D3 has entertained me for hundreds, if not thousands, of hours. Infinite replayability until the game ages too much or Blizzard revamps it with a sequel. D3 stands out from the rest of them, and it's not in a good way.

If they had just done it right, as opposed to rushing it out the door, I would still be playing now and for the next several years. As it is, I haven't touched the game since June.


I have it the same way. But I think D3 was a much harder game to develop than Sc2. Sc2 was going to be a succes no matter what, despite how bad some of the changes were (hi collosus).
D3 wasn't going to be a succes no matter what. The hack'n slash genre is threatened my MMORG like WOW, and if you think about. Killing monsters isn't particular fun. I think if D2 was released today it would have the same long-lasting appeal as D3.

The things he mentions, like loot system and auction house were never a thing I had a problem with. I think a lot of us has got older as well. D2 was basically the first game I played online (as a 12-year old), and I had a lot of fun playing it back then. I have returned to the game a few times since hten, where I played for probably 60-70 hours before I stopped playing, and I think D3 is a very similar game.

Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 21 2012 11:40 GMT
#160
Jay Wilson is fast approaching Azmodan levels of vanity.
/commercial
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 22h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko492
SC2Nice 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 10556
Horang2 1473
EffOrt 685
ZerO 406
firebathero 387
Mini 374
actioN 342
Rush 205
Sharp 178
Soma 177
[ Show more ]
Snow 134
ggaemo 133
Light 129
Hyun 107
Mind 81
Killer 79
Pusan 78
Barracks 71
hero 65
Sea.KH 57
ToSsGirL 41
soO 41
Movie 37
Terrorterran 24
sorry 17
HiyA 14
Noble 13
910 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
scan(afreeca) 10
Dota 2
XcaliburYe227
League of Legends
C9.Mang0305
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2894
x6flipin1013
byalli972
zeus660
edward65
Other Games
Pyrionflax383
Fuzer 377
Livibee137
oskar123
hiko94
Mew2King88
ArmadaUGS81
QueenE50
nookyyy 42
Trikslyr28
XaKoH 27
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1427
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV550
• Noizen47
League of Legends
• Jankos4065
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
22h 41m
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 19h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 22h
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.