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dekwaz
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand61 Posts
August 21 2012 04:33 GMT
#141
Holy crap just finished reading the Patch Notes for 1.0.4 ... Looks pretty good on paper.

However I think more like this patch was a result of the community's effort (whiners and opinions alike) and after yesterday's shitstorm I think the devs rather did this begrudgedly, just to shut the fucking losers up. Haha

But still, at least they're still willing to adapt to the situation and I salute you (for now) Sir Jay - he of the pony t-shirt.

Still, do you think they could have just added levels 61-100 and just added the stats (gf mf stats whatever) and called it 'levels' instead of 'paragons'?
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 21 2012 04:40 GMT
#142
On August 21 2012 13:33 dekwaz wrote:
Holy crap just finished reading the Patch Notes for 1.0.4 ... Looks pretty good on paper.

However I think more like this patch was a result of the community's effort (whiners and opinions alike) and after yesterday's shitstorm I think the devs rather did this begrudgedly, just to shut the fucking losers up. Haha

But still, at least they're still willing to adapt to the situation and I salute you (for now) Sir Jay - he of the pony t-shirt.

Still, do you think they could have just added levels 61-100 and just added the stats (gf mf stats whatever) and called it 'levels' instead of 'paragons'?


why you calling the community who gave their opinions and ultimately had them implemented - "fucking losers"?

it is definitely great progress, but they are moving more towards D2 style and this should have been 1.0 rather than 1.04....
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 04:41:11
August 21 2012 04:40 GMT
#143
Well here's a comment from jay wilson on the situation:

Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident.


http://www.gamebase.com.tw/forum/61898/topic/95194419/1#ixzz249VVng5d

It's a chinese website..google garbled the translation a bit, but quite understandable.
dekwaz
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand61 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 04:50:31
August 21 2012 04:43 GMT
#144
On August 21 2012 13:40 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 13:33 dekwaz wrote:
Holy crap just finished reading the Patch Notes for 1.0.4 ... Looks pretty good on paper.

However I think more like this patch was a result of the community's effort (whiners and opinions alike) and after yesterday's shitstorm I think the devs rather did this begrudgedly, just to shut the fucking losers up. Haha

But still, at least they're still willing to adapt to the situation and I salute you (for now) Sir Jay - he of the pony t-shirt.

Still, do you think they could have just added levels 61-100 and just added the stats (gf mf stats whatever) and called it 'levels' instead of 'paragons'?


why you calling the community who gave their opinions and ultimately had them implemented - "fucking losers"?

it is definitely great progress, but they are moving more towards D2 style and this should have been 1.0 rather than 1.04....


It was a joke.

I was referencing Jay's comment from yesterday, not calling out the community -_-"

If the current Blizzard brass can think that of the CREATOR of the damn franchise, then what does he think of us - the mass gold pieces?
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
August 21 2012 04:51 GMT
#145
Marvel Heros looks dope as fuck. I'm down for that when it comes out.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
August 21 2012 04:58 GMT
#146
Omg he swore, im never buying a fucking game from him again
¯\_(☺)_/¯
Tiamat
Profile Joined February 2003
United States498 Posts
August 21 2012 05:03 GMT
#147
I just wanna know which one of these assholes put Diablo in high-heels so i can stick a foot up their ass
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 21 2012 05:19 GMT
#148
On August 21 2012 11:28 screamingpalm wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/y3CsB.png

LOL saw this on bnet forum... wonder how many moles hang out on TL?


holy shit LOL it's like they're trying to lose all respect from the community on purpose.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 05:36:35
August 21 2012 05:29 GMT
#149
Let's face it guys, if the D3 team thought they did an amazing job, they wouldn't have even responded to the interview. It's because they probably think to themselves how badly they screwed up that as soon as it's pointed out, especially by one of the creators of the franchise they worked on, they get really angry. It's like if you told your very successful friend "you're a loser", he'd probably laugh. Whereas if you told ur desperately-trying-to-succeed friend "you're a loser", he'd probably take it really personally (coz he knows it's true) and freak the shit out.



On August 21 2012 13:40 dartoo wrote:
Well here's a comment from jay wilson on the situation:

Show nested quote +
Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident.


http://www.gamebase.com.tw/forum/61898/topic/95194419/1#ixzz249VVng5d

It's a chinese website..google garbled the translation a bit, but quite understandable.





Here's the translation of the last line:
Q: Finally, since last night a screenshot of a series of Facebook messages started spreading on the internet regarding the interview between David Brevik and INGgamers. You wrote a message saying "Fuck that loser". Did you mean what you wrote? Or is it just the internet making it up?

A: This...yes I did write that message. It's just that from the start we thought it was a private, non-public chat, and it wasn't our intention to publicize the conversation. It is a really regrettable accident.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
August 21 2012 05:53 GMT
#150
On August 21 2012 14:29 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Let's face it guys, if the D3 team thought they did an amazing job, they wouldn't have even responded to the interview. It's because they probably think to themselves how badly they screwed up that as soon as it's pointed out, especially by one of the creators of the franchise they worked on, they get really angry. It's like if you told your very successful friend "you're a loser", he'd probably laugh. Whereas if you told ur desperately-trying-to-succeed friend "you're a loser", he'd probably take it really personally (coz he knows it's true) and freak the shit out.



Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 13:40 dartoo wrote:
Well here's a comment from jay wilson on the situation:

Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident.


http://www.gamebase.com.tw/forum/61898/topic/95194419/1#ixzz249VVng5d

It's a chinese website..google garbled the translation a bit, but quite understandable.





Here's the translation of the last line:
Q: Finally, since last night a screenshot of a series of Facebook messages started spreading on the internet regarding the interview between David Brevik and INGgamers. You wrote a message saying "Fuck that loser". Did you mean what you wrote? Or is it just the internet making it up?

A: This...yes I did write that message. It's just that from the start we thought it was a private, non-public chat, and it wasn't our intention to publicize the conversation. It is a really regrettable accident.


You could either go emo and lash out or you can make it productive and stick it to them through actions. This patch is a step in the right direction but it doesn't change the fact that they did screw up. They should suck it up and take it because they know they should know they deserved it. If they can patch the game up to game's satisfaction than we will still be enjoying the game in a few years with the expansions. I'm sure the community will be forgiving. If they don't then there won't be a next installment.
aicaramba
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands110 Posts
August 21 2012 06:58 GMT
#151
Ohhh. So its was meant as a private message.. Then its ok to call the original creator of the franchise a loser..
No harm done!! Riiight..
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
August 21 2012 07:05 GMT
#152
"Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident."

even if he thought its private still a sad reaction by those newschool blizzard guys. iam dissapointed.
Total Annihilation Zero
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 21 2012 07:22 GMT
#153
On August 21 2012 14:53 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 14:29 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Let's face it guys, if the D3 team thought they did an amazing job, they wouldn't have even responded to the interview. It's because they probably think to themselves how badly they screwed up that as soon as it's pointed out, especially by one of the creators of the franchise they worked on, they get really angry. It's like if you told your very successful friend "you're a loser", he'd probably laugh. Whereas if you told ur desperately-trying-to-succeed friend "you're a loser", he'd probably take it really personally (coz he knows it's true) and freak the shit out.



On August 21 2012 13:40 dartoo wrote:
Well here's a comment from jay wilson on the situation:

Finally, last night the network upload a screenshot of a Facebook Dialogue in the production team for David Brevik accept INCgamers the interview with a message, your message said "Fuck that Loser", you mean you? Or Internet fictitious?

JW:This ... really is my message. Just a thought that is a private, non-public personal dialogue string is not our intention announced, this is a regrettable accident.


http://www.gamebase.com.tw/forum/61898/topic/95194419/1#ixzz249VVng5d

It's a chinese website..google garbled the translation a bit, but quite understandable.





Here's the translation of the last line:
Q: Finally, since last night a screenshot of a series of Facebook messages started spreading on the internet regarding the interview between David Brevik and INGgamers. You wrote a message saying "Fuck that loser". Did you mean what you wrote? Or is it just the internet making it up?

A: This...yes I did write that message. It's just that from the start we thought it was a private, non-public chat, and it wasn't our intention to publicize the conversation. It is a really regrettable accident.


You could either go emo and lash out or you can make it productive and stick it to them through actions. This patch is a step in the right direction but it doesn't change the fact that they did screw up. They should suck it up and take it because they know they should know they deserved it. If they can patch the game up to game's satisfaction than we will still be enjoying the game in a few years with the expansions. I'm sure the community will be forgiving. If they don't then there won't be a next installment.



The amount of damage that is being done is hilarious. Blizzard is pretty much destroying any shred of credibility they still had among various "hardcore" gamers (the core of their fanbase). Between some really iffy balance decisions in SC2 and the disaster of Diablo 3, I'm not seeing how Blizzard survives much longer other than dying a really slow and painful death with WoW.
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
August 21 2012 07:27 GMT
#154
This is what happens when you hire ex-Relic to do your work for you. Why can't Blizzard just promote from within instead of hiring outside "talent" to lead their projects?
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
QLIQ
Profile Joined July 2012
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 07:43:17
August 21 2012 07:38 GMT
#155
so to them it is acceptable behavior to talk shit behind someones back.. doesn't surprise me at all, many people are like that.
and the only reason why these guys aren't losers is why? they might as well be calling themselves fucking losers. lots of people put on fake ass persona's so they can make it through the day but god damn i would rather be a douchebag and open about it than be a fake ass mother fucker like jay wilson who does the talking when the back is turned.
i love 7-eleven and an education isn't always obtained through a school's education.. it's great that its there tho for those who do that stuff.
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
August 21 2012 07:54 GMT
#156
This won't exactly draw people's admiration, but they can say whatever they want in a private conversation. As a customer of theirs I'm interested in obtaining a good product, not policing their language.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
August 21 2012 08:06 GMT
#157
On August 20 2012 23:53 Barrin wrote:
...What the fuck.

I can't believe Jay actually said "fuck you, loser" to David Brevik, co-founder of Blizzard North and the Diablo franchise.

You might as well say the same thing to me and all Diablo fans.

What's even harder to believe is that I was actually defending Jay before this. No more.

I think we need more nuance here. Does JW really lashes out or is his statement meant to be considered in a context? Would JW really call Brevik a loser for being open in an interview? It obviously isn't meant literally.

You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
August 21 2012 08:15 GMT
#158
Oh my god he dare to be disrespectful on someone he shouldnt! Lets burn him.
Of course he should learn proper internet behaviour from our tl comminity we would never dare be dirsespectful to some... oh wait


All that useless drama. They're human its allrigh

Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
August 21 2012 08:27 GMT
#159
On August 21 2012 09:17 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 08:18 happyness wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:35 IamPryda wrote:
If I was blizzard I would fire jay Wilson. Based on pure sales diablo 3 did great but clearly this was just a piggy back off the diablo franchise name. Blizzard is a company known for taking its
Time developing games making sure they are perfect before release, diablo 3 did not meet this standard. In fact between the big 3; Warcraft Starcraft and diablo franchises this is really the first failure of the three.


Uh, in your opinion. A lot of people consider SC2 to be a failure. In terms of sales it definately was not a failure. And it seems to be the consensus among the community that the game is very good for the first 60 hours or so, which is way more than you can get from the majority of any game.

But back on topic, how in the hell could Jay Wilson be so careless? Does he not know that people can take screenshots of FB? The interview wasn't even that bad either. Brevik was politely saying that he didn't like the game. How is that throwing anyone under the bus?


I enjoyed Diablo 3 for the first 60 hours, but have no desire to ever play it again after that point. That's a failure for a Blizzard game. Every Blizzard game I have played (SC, BW, WC3, WoW, D2, SC2) up until D3 has entertained me for hundreds, if not thousands, of hours. Infinite replayability until the game ages too much or Blizzard revamps it with a sequel. D3 stands out from the rest of them, and it's not in a good way.

If they had just done it right, as opposed to rushing it out the door, I would still be playing now and for the next several years. As it is, I haven't touched the game since June.


I have it the same way. But I think D3 was a much harder game to develop than Sc2. Sc2 was going to be a succes no matter what, despite how bad some of the changes were (hi collosus).
D3 wasn't going to be a succes no matter what. The hack'n slash genre is threatened my MMORG like WOW, and if you think about. Killing monsters isn't particular fun. I think if D2 was released today it would have the same long-lasting appeal as D3.

The things he mentions, like loot system and auction house were never a thing I had a problem with. I think a lot of us has got older as well. D2 was basically the first game I played online (as a 12-year old), and I had a lot of fun playing it back then. I have returned to the game a few times since hten, where I played for probably 60-70 hours before I stopped playing, and I think D3 is a very similar game.

Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 21 2012 11:40 GMT
#160
Jay Wilson is fast approaching Azmodan levels of vanity.
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