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Diablo 1+2 dev criticizes D3, new devs respond - Page 2

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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 20 2012 10:31 GMT
#21
i dont understand about the Hellgate london + Mythos thing,did Brevik made those too?

Anyway I wish this guy could be re-hired and stomp Jay's face so that we can have a better expansion in years time.
Lemonerer
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel135 Posts
August 20 2012 10:36 GMT
#22
Seriously these guys are pathetic.
The only reason to Diablo III success is Diablo II.
I had like 20 guys in my friend list who bought this game - only ONE of them still plays!

This game is horrible and they seriously suck.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
August 20 2012 10:58 GMT
#23
The failure of the Diablo 3 is one of the biggest tragedies in history of gaming. Never has Blizzard ever issued a public apology for one of their games before, they know they screwed it up.

The developers posting like children on Facebook is disgusting, they (and Blizzard) should be ashamed of what they have done.
Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
August 20 2012 11:14 GMT
#24
The only reason he's so salty is because he knows Brevik is right. And Blizzard get bonus points for responding like 12 year olds on facebook. Idiots.
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
August 20 2012 11:40 GMT
#25
Godamn, Wilson shows his true colors with how he responded. Ugh, lost alot of respect for those Blizzard employee's just piling on, especially that random girl who looked like she was sucking up to him with those comments, I mean what the hell? "I liked your comment twice Jay!"
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 11:45:11
August 20 2012 11:41 GMT
#26
I feel good after watching that interview. I just feel like my hatred of D3 is justified.

I am starting to suspect that those people who keep saying D2 took ages to become good so D3 should not be flamed for its bad are people who working for blizzard. They have all the resource from D2 and they can screw up the game this badly. What makes Jay Wilson thinks that making alot huge changes to Diablo is the right thing to do??? I mean how dare anyone not carefully handling the changes of a 'gold standard' game??? And that FB comment just showed us what kind of person he is.

Diablo franchise is finished anyway (I can't wait to see the sales number of the expansion/s). Unless there is a miracle like some super rich saudi prince buy the brand and assemble the original team to release another D3 (in which one of the team member had passed away).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
August 20 2012 11:45 GMT
#27
so what, doesnt matter at this point anymore. Will never buy a blizz game again anyway. I hope to god there are enough customers who have some self respect left in them and do the same. I hope HotS fails miserably but unfortunately I think there are still enough sheep who will buy yet another pos product from blizz 8[
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 20 2012 11:56 GMT
#28
Well... D3 Sold well because of D1,HF,D2 and LOD... And Flagship didn't have the money for hellgate that blizzard had for D3... So... That's a bit unfair.

For the record. I still play Hellgate. D3 ? I don't.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6226 Posts
August 20 2012 12:01 GMT
#29
I really enjoyed hellgate london. I certainly played it longer than I played D3. The only bad part about it was that it was completely unfinished at release.
If it was in development for as long as D3 was it would be a vastly superior game. Brevik said what everybody has been thinking, and I feel for the guy because he was a huge part of D2 and has been brushed under the rug time and time again by huge developers and publishers who don't want to invest the production time required to make a fantastic game.

This can only be good for the fans.
good vibes only
Caryc
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany330 Posts
August 20 2012 12:07 GMT
#30
"fuck that loser". really? ...
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
August 20 2012 12:16 GMT
#31
You can bet that he has said that about everyone that complained about how bad he is at making Diablo....

Brevik didnt even say anything that bad, just that he might have done a few things differently. What's wrong with that? I would have too... Wilson is a dick, plain and simple. He failed really, really hard with D3 and its about time he commented in one way or another. Its too bad that he responded the way that the community thought he would though, I still had a sliver of hope that he was going to actually try to make the game better.
Mooster
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 12:32:37
August 20 2012 12:29 GMT
#32
The points brevik made were legitimate, the only reason why some ppl still play D3 is cuz of RMAH. The concept of action rpg fun is lost in D3 due to how the economy works. I've never enjoyed rpg games with economies based on gold systems, and D2's rune based economy was much more enjoyable. Also his comments on skill points is right on, D2 had a great replay value because people can create different builds for the same class of character and it required different gears, in D3 once you have all 5 classes at level 60, you were pretty much done, and the gear you had worked for almost every different build.

Another thing is, since blizzard had so much time to developed D3, the game upon release was really disappointing with all the bugs and exploits, and the fact that they released the RMAH when people were abusing these exploits was really disappointing as well. The current blizzard team might be more focused on improving revenue, but blizzard north and other gaming companies know that having a solid game design is key to success. If a game is fun and well made, then the developer will be able to find ways to make a profit. But if the focus was on making a game for the sole purpose of revenue, then the game design itself wont even appeal to the average gamer. - just my opinion*

Seeing D3 devs being taken aback by the interview just shows me that they aren't willing to admit how flawed their game design is, and it will just take even longer if not never for D3 to even come close to being a legit success as D2. If they had time to bash ppl on the internet, i'd much rather see them actually fixing D3.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 20 2012 12:34 GMT
#33
Tries hard to gain goodwill by making the next patch good, destroys it by being a douche.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
megid
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 14:42:45
August 20 2012 12:47 GMT
#34
Sorry, but he didn't made the fastest selling pc game, ppl only bought daiblo 3 because of the first two titles lol, it's ridiculous.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
August 20 2012 13:02 GMT
#35
On August 20 2012 20:40 Wedge wrote:
Godamn, Wilson shows his true colors with how he responded. Ugh, lost alot of respect for those Blizzard employee's just piling on, especially that random girl who looked like she was sucking up to him with those comments, I mean what the hell? "I liked your comment twice Jay!"

Not a random, she's a Senior Technical Artist for diablo 3. All in all pretty amusing stuff to see their private communications accidentally being public..
here i am
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
August 20 2012 13:12 GMT
#36
it's amazing how much people care about stuff like this :p
QLIQ
Profile Joined July 2012
United States6 Posts
August 20 2012 13:15 GMT
#37
the developers @ diablo 3 really need to suck it up, fucking babies.. you make a shit game and get criticized for it, you deserve it. i know i sure as hell yelled obscenities at them when i got my hands on the game and played it for two days to reach max level, only to find out the game is completely bullshit top to bottom. i played competitive tf2 and as a competitive gamer, you get criticized.. game developers are kind of like competitive gaming/sports teams, if you're not criticizing them than why are you hiring them? should an actor not be criticized of his portrayal of a character or person he is supposed to be representing in a movie? everyone should be criticized, and everyone should be constantly criticizing themselves. to be the best you can possibly be, that's life.. if you're gonna go out and lay out shit and just get paid for it than you're gonna get a-lot of flak cause somebody else could have possibly done a much better job.
i love 7-eleven and an education isn't always obtained through a school's education.. it's great that its there tho for those who do that stuff.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
August 20 2012 13:20 GMT
#38
wonder if this will have any repercussions

jay wilson just seems to have a terrible attitude
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bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
August 20 2012 13:28 GMT
#39
Yeah they all appear to be Blizzard employees. Jill is an artist and Andrew Chambers is a game designer on SC2. They all appear to have a sense of entitlement given how well D3 sold.

What's lost on them is that D3 sold so well based on the legacy of D2:LOD.

I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 20 2012 13:31 GMT
#40
Well it's not like I was going to buy the preplanned expansions but this certainly doesn't help. It sucks that our trust and loyalty in Blizzard has resulted in this.
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