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Have You Ever Had a Prostitute? - Page 10
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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DD-FRIeZa
Croatia91 Posts
I dont know for others, but no one ever mentioned emotions in this thread? Uhm... would you pay a hooker to give you a hug after you lose 18 bw games in a row and you are full of frustration? I hope you get the point what I meant =P If you want a hooker for a fast 1 night sex its ok..you can also do the same thing with a 'normal' girl, just with normal girl, she has to be looking for a 1 night sex also (the particular night eventually) | ||
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Milton Friedman
98 Posts
There are arguments already about free choice on part of consumer and supplier so why introduce the government to make sure prostitutes are clean? The free market will do this without aid. If a rich man wants to use a prostitute but is afraid of contracting a STD then, say, a service where the company itself checks their girls and enforces their own policy of safe sex aimed at the wealthy demographic will be provided because the profit incentive is there. Similarly, if a man feels that the risk of getting an STD is low and going to said company is too expensive then he may opt for a cheaper, perhaps riskier (in the sense of getting a STD) prostitute. The monetary difference between quality reflects part of the risk premium (unlikely to be all since many consumers enjoy consumer surplus on purchases) as valued by the end user. Clearly, this valuation is individual specific. Nor is regulation required because of the danger of human trafficking. Illegal immigrants take various low grade jobs within a Western economy; prostitution merely one of them. If prostitution were legalized in America then I can understand how more women from poorer countries might be forced by traffickers into selling themselves against their will. Yet, this isn't an issue regulation of a legalized industry would resolve. By definition, such people will not exist on governmental records and thus cannot be protected. | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On November 27 2007 20:00 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: The sheer amount of ignorance from the anti-sex industry side of the argument is amusingly predictable. "Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity." -- Snatch | ||
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
I don't have any particular pro or con feeling about prostitution either (and i'm not going to read a 10 page thread). | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On November 27 2007 18:20 MYM.Testie wrote: Here's a reason that has nothing to do with actual reasons: Majority rule, most people don't want it legalized. Win by default. Really? So if the majority vote yes for slavery we should re-instate it right?, no testie... freedom, human rights and civil liberties are more important than popular vote. And yes, what two consenting adults decide to do on the privacy of their bedroom falls under the freedom and civil liberties my friend. | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
On holiday with family one time my cousin had 4 in one night all brought back to our hotel room, 2 x 2, expensive night that one. | ||
Smurg
Canada3819 Posts
It's like: Dirty//Illegal. Clean//Legal. See if there are unlimited amounts of clean prostitutes, they can never be as dirty as a limited number of illegal prostitutes. Besides, a clean prostitute might be cleaner than a normal woman who has sex every now and then if they are forced to use protection and get checked up. Most normal women won't be getting checked up every month or so. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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iloveHieu
United States1919 Posts
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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Sawajiri
Austria417 Posts
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
I had sex with a prostitute tough. And it is no big deal. Just don't go to places where you pay them overpriced champagne first and walk out with a lot less money than the acctual buissness cost you. There are "clean" and "professional" places, you just need to ask around. And by that i don't mean some random guy on the street. Escort can be mighty fine. I've been to amsterdam once and had good times with a callgirl. They picked me up (she and the driver), we've gone clubbing and then back to my hotel. If you're on a lone buissness trip and have no girlfriend (at least that's my rule) go crazy man. Sure you pay her, but if your employer comes up with some expenses, why not. Some of you might have this wierd expectation of what might happen. But trust me, if you're not into some wierdo stuff, nothing special is going to happen. | ||
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Zherak
Norway256 Posts
On November 27 2007 12:22 {ToT}Strafe wrote: Ugh. The contraction rates vary a lot. It depends the stage of the infected person is in and the healthy the 'victim' is in at the given moment of intercourse. Then there is a condom, which if you used properly with lots of lube, will almost never tear. Then there is the thing that only a few % of the prostitutes are actually infected with HIV. Unless you go to Zimbabwe. But just wtf at the bold part. Are you seriously that naive? You can contract it the first time you have it unprotected or you can bang 20 of them every yearh for the rest of your life and never get it. Wanna flip a coin for it? Oh my God. More or less at loss for words, but I'll give it a shot: Yes, the better half of my post detailed how the likelihood of contraction depends on some factors, and that we need to know what assumptions are made in the statistics. If somebody considered getting a prostitute of Eastern European origin in Norway to have unprotected penetrative anal sex with her, then he needs statistics which actually cover that exact situation as precisely as possible, neither statistics detailing the risk of contracting syphilis when having protected sex with your wife for ten years nor statistics giving [total number of STDs transmitted]/[total number of intercourses]. Therefore, I wrote, baal's statistics are nonsensical without the assumed circumstances specified. On November 27 2007 12:22 {ToT}Strafe wrote: You can contract it the first time you have it unprotected or you can bang 20 of them every yearh for the rest of your life and never get it. Wanna flip a coin for it? On November 27 2007 12:22 {ToT}Strafe wrote: You can contract it the first time you have it unprotected or you can bang 20 of them every yearh for the rest of your life and never get it. Wanna flip a coin for it? Double dose of Strafe completely misunderstanding the use of statistics is double delight. You do realize that statistics are used a metric fuckton, because, well, they provide meaningful information? Especially for a person who, like, wants to weigh the pleasure of whores against having his dick wither and fall off. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Zherak
Norway256 Posts
On November 27 2007 19:43 Milton Friedman wrote: I don't understand the need for regulation in a legalized prostitution industry. There are arguments already about free choice on part of consumer and supplier so why introduce the government to make sure prostitutes are clean? The free market will do this without aid. If a rich man wants to use a prostitute but is afraid of contracting a STD then, say, a service where the company itself checks their girls and enforces their own policy of safe sex aimed at the wealthy demographic will be provided because the profit incentive is there. Similarly, if a man feels that the risk of getting an STD is low and going to said company is too expensive then he may opt for a cheaper, perhaps riskier (in the sense of getting a STD) prostitute. The monetary difference between quality reflects part of the risk premium (unlikely to be all since many consumers enjoy consumer surplus on purchases) as valued by the end user. Clearly, this valuation is individual specific. Nor is regulation required because of the danger of human trafficking. Illegal immigrants take various low grade jobs within a Western economy; prostitution merely one of them. If prostitution were legalized in America then I can understand how more women from poorer countries might be forced by traffickers into selling themselves against their will. Yet, this isn't an issue regulation of a legalized industry would resolve. By definition, such people will not exist on governmental records and thus cannot be protected. You need to realize that your textbooks on market economics, and, for that matter, the Ku Klux Klan's pages on capitalism, do not actually correspond with reality You assume that the rich man will go to a service which provides clean girls. The problem is, in the real world, customers never act with perfect information. Even if this rich man goes to the trouble of doing extensive research on pros and cons of various prostitutes, it is ridiculously hard to determine the chances of getting an STD, particularly when every single seller has everything to gain from pretending they are one hundred percent clean. If your idealized world of economics actually corresponds to the real world, then I should have known how to pick an STD-free whore. However, I do not. I figure trying to find an ethnic Norwegian (seeing as I live in Norway) who does not look completely drug-addicted and actually takes well enough to paid that she doesn't have to fuck thirty-seven guys a day might increase my chances, but all these are guesses, and I have no real means of distinguishing classy whores from pretend-classy whores. As a customer, I would appreciate having the government help me in selecting whores suited to my needs by regulating the market. Nobody actually wants to have sex with an AIDS infected prostitute, so of course I would like it if these were not around on the market like spider mines in a TvP on Rush Hour. And, please, seeing as you manage to type coherent sentences arranged in paragraphs, you are not completely retarded. You should realize that not existing in government records != not having a corporeal form. If an FBI agent drops by your brothel, maybe even undercover, and asks to see immigration papers for all those ethnic Mexicans you have employed, you need to either show him the work permits or find yourself a damn good lawyer. Regulation give the business rules to follow, and of course, rules without any attempts at enforcing them are hollow. It is, however, not impossible to enforce these rules. That is the only reason why (I hope) child prostitutes are not available in the US. | ||
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sidz
Finland31 Posts
If all the male on planet earth would be united and start a campaign worldwide: "no sex for them (woman) until they pay us doing it", I bet we can turn the tables around for our benefit. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32160 Posts
On November 28 2007 03:57 sidz wrote: I dont understand why men should pay for sex overall, hookers or dates. It's not like the counterpart of deal (the woman) is suffering in the process, and thus demand money benefits in return. If all the male on planet earth would be united and start a campaign worldwide: "no sex for them (woman) until they pay us doing it", I bet we can turn the tables around for our benefit. Lead the charge, I'll be right behind you!! | ||
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