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mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
May 19 2007 20:24 GMT
#1
Whenever I'm truly in love with someone, all my sexual desires are instantly turned off. Porn doesn't work (while just before I'm in love, even a cheap porn could usually turn my horny self on in < few secs). Kisses, hugs, touches, and sometimes even oral don't work either. Basically I don't want to have sex with the one I truly deeply love.

Have you ever experienced this problem? Or, should I see this as a problem? Is it because I'm Asian? Please feel free to share your thoughts.
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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
May 19 2007 20:31 GMT
#2
Its becouse you are asian.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 19 2007 20:32 GMT
#3
you're not supposed to have sex with your family, don't worry it's normal
why so 진지해?
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-19 20:39:30
May 19 2007 20:33 GMT
#4
i think you just respect the girl too much to do such a thing...i got a friend who's like that...he and his girlfriend don't do shit together...or maybe he's just scared...but then again, maybe im just talking out of my ass...cheers
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
May 19 2007 20:35 GMT
#5
btw girls love to be fucked so stop acting gay
istealhotelsoap
Profile Joined February 2007
United States514 Posts
May 19 2007 20:37 GMT
#6
On May 20 2007 05:35 mdb wrote:
btw girls love to be fucked so stop acting gay

amen.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
May 19 2007 20:49 GMT
#7
Are you taking some experimental medicines?
I'll call Nada.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
May 19 2007 20:57 GMT
#8
Wtf its like the complete opposite for me -.-
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Fedaykin
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands2003 Posts
May 19 2007 21:11 GMT
#9
On May 20 2007 05:57 meRz wrote:
Wtf its like the complete opposite for me -.-

Almost the same here, when I'm really in love I wanna have sex with that one person all the time and really nobody else, so porn doesn't work, nor do other girls, just want 'her' all the time, sadly I'm without such a 'her' atm..
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
May 19 2007 21:15 GMT
#10
I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU

oops caps, but the point needs to be emphasised regardless..
RHCPgergo
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Hungary345 Posts
May 19 2007 21:18 GMT
#11
I guess you're not alone with this, sometimes I feel the same way. Sometimes not. GL dealing with it anyway.
infecteddna
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Slovenia243 Posts
May 19 2007 21:35 GMT
#12
On May 20 2007 06:11 Fedaykin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 05:57 meRz wrote:
Wtf its like the complete opposite for me -.-

Almost the same here, when I'm really in love I wanna have sex with that one person all the time and really nobody else, so porn doesn't work, nor do other girls, just want 'her' all the time, sadly I'm without such a 'her' atm..


Here comes the gosu advice : do everything you can to be just like this guy and live a long happy life.
Then send me a copy of sc2 when it comes out in gratitude.
Fedaykin
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands2003 Posts
May 19 2007 21:42 GMT
#13
Send me a copy to, for writing that down

Seriously though, I've one had this feeling once and can't really tell if it'll work for as long as a lifetime, but I do hope it does, yay happyness
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
May 19 2007 21:49 GMT
#14
yea i guess it stems from respect and deadens the "sexual" feelings. its not a bad thing, just that sex is needed to keep the bond of intimacy or ur relationship will collapse maybe?
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Fester
Profile Joined February 2003
Australia260 Posts
May 19 2007 22:32 GMT
#15
i had the problem with fucking a bitch and then thinking nothing more then kicking her outa the house
JimD.Brav
Profile Joined April 2006
Vietnam28 Posts
May 19 2007 22:42 GMT
#16
you should read more girl thread on TL
dropthesky
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Canada285 Posts
May 19 2007 22:47 GMT
#17
you are scared, i was at the start, im assuming you're young. You just don't wanna suck, and the woman you love think you are a loser in bed.
It Is Not That Impossible Is Unachievable, But Simply That Most People Refuse To Believe Otherwise...
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
May 19 2007 23:12 GMT
#18
I completely cleared my computer of porn. Freed up like 6GB. It doesn't really do much for me anymore, and I wouldn't have it any other way. :D
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L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
May 19 2007 23:13 GMT
#19
On May 20 2007 07:47 dropthesky wrote:
you are scared, i was at the start, im assuming you're young. You just don't wanna suck, and the woman you love think you are a loser in bed.

i didnt think of it like that. you're probably right. he's prob just inexperienced and doesnt wanna seem like a loser in bed to someone he actually likes
Bladox
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada763 Posts
May 19 2007 23:13 GMT
#20
On May 20 2007 07:42 JimD.Brav wrote:
you should read more girl thread on TL

yeah haha... obviously you're lacking vital knowledge!
Huh no sorry... this game isnt like counter-strike... You actually need skills to play broodwar!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 19 2007 23:58 GMT
#21
romantic love is a sexual thing anyway. nothing sacred or whatnot with it.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
May 20 2007 00:10 GMT
#22
On May 20 2007 05:24 mrdx wrote:
Whenever I'm truly in love with someone, all my sexual desires are instantly turned off. Porn doesn't work (while just before I'm in love, even a cheap porn could usually turn my horny self on in < few secs). Kisses, hugs, touches, and sometimes even oral don't work either. Basically I don't want to have sex with the one I truly deeply love.

Have you ever experienced this problem? Or, should I see this as a problem? Is it because I'm Asian? Please feel free to share your thoughts.

Are you both happy and feel no regrets that the sexual desire isn't there?

Then there is no problem.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
May 20 2007 00:43 GMT
#23
Actually, I know exactly what the OP is talking about. Perhaps it's because the girls that I tend to like are the "cute" type instead of the "hot" type, but when I really start liking a girl, I become like that. I don't have the sexual desire, but rather, I want to make her happy. Bleh...whatever. Means nothing from a guy who has no female interaction T_T.

Anyway, there are 3 types of girls in this world for me:
1. girls u wanna fuck
2. girls u wanna protect from being fucked
3. girls u wish would fuck off.
BaconatedGrapefruit
Profile Joined May 2007
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 00:47:27
May 20 2007 00:46 GMT
#24
On May 20 2007 05:24 mrdx wrote:
Whenever I'm truly in love with someone, all my sexual desires are instantly turned off. Porn doesn't work (while just before I'm in love, even a cheap porn could usually turn my horny self on in < few secs). Kisses, hugs, touches, and sometimes even oral don't work either. Basically I don't want to have sex with the one I truly deeply love.

Have you ever experienced this problem? Or, should I see this as a problem? Is it because I'm Asian? Please feel free to share your thoughts.


Not to sound offensive, but when someone who sounds as young as young says "WHENEVER I'm truly in love," it really makes it seems like you've never been in love. Maybe English isn't your first language, and you are just mistranslating "like" or something, but most people would be lucky to "truly love" one person in their lifetime, and usually people aren't mature enough to love until their mid-20s or so. Just warning you to use your words more carefully, or they'll lose their meaning.

Think about it. How much will saying "I love you" mean to your wife if she knows you think you've loved 8 people before? Not that much.

And yes, when you truly CARE about someone, it isn't uncommon for your real feelings to overwhelm the lust you would normally have for her.

If you're like 35-40, I take back what I say, but otherwise I think you're exaggerating.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 00:51:18
May 20 2007 00:49 GMT
#25
Really?
No desire at all?
Not even a smidgen?
Not even a quick clean shower fuck?
O come on.. You don't really love her then, you idolize her.



EDIT - Seriously try the Shower one -_-;;
I.. do not understand.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
larra
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany44 Posts
May 20 2007 00:57 GMT
#26
Of course, it is Not because you are asian. That is one of the stupidest questions Ive ever heard :D

I come from the same country as you, and I know you're only 22 or so. I can think of 2 answers : 1.Like grapefruit said, you've never been in love. 2.You've experienced impotence a tad sooner than others.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
May 20 2007 01:08 GMT
#27
Are u a virgin ?


Whatever now, do u really feel like jerking off all the time ? And if u don't have any regrets on it, chill off, there's no problem. Oh and something really important:
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Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
May 20 2007 01:10 GMT
#28
Wow you are gonna have a serious problem when you get married. I hope you truly love a fat ugly bitch who can't get any from anyone else otherwise she is gonna leave your no putting out ass
aka: Yaj
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 01:22:19
May 20 2007 01:16 GMT
#29
On May 20 2007 10:10 Q~Bert wrote:
Wow you are gonna have a serious problem when you get married. I hope you truly love a fat ugly bitch who can't get any from anyone else otherwise she is gonna leave your no putting out ass


i think he's just at the stage right now where he respects her boundaries because he loves her. The sexual desire will probably come after marriage etc.

Not even marriage per se, just that it's not there right now.
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
May 20 2007 01:22 GMT
#30
I wanna fuck everybody. (not ahk)
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
May 20 2007 01:26 GMT
#31
On May 20 2007 10:22 gulii wrote:
I wanna fuck everybody. (not ahk)


gay.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
dropthesky
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Canada285 Posts
May 20 2007 01:36 GMT
#32
Yea it true, girls like guys that put out^.^
It Is Not That Impossible Is Unachievable, But Simply That Most People Refuse To Believe Otherwise...
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8835 Posts
May 20 2007 01:40 GMT
#33
They'll come back after you mate, you filthy primate.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9616 Posts
May 20 2007 01:46 GMT
#34
you rhymed mate with mate

but yeah, like someone else, the girl im dating turns me on just by looking at me. its actually annoying sometimes.
Silent_Marine
Profile Joined April 2005
Vietnam281 Posts
May 20 2007 01:46 GMT
#35
That's ok mrdx
You do what you think it's right to your gf . But I like to keep "that" until marry
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 01:48:54
May 20 2007 01:48 GMT
#36
On May :43 ilovezil wrote:
Actually, I know exactly what the OP is talking about. Perhaps it's because the girls that I tend to like are the "cute" type instead of the "hot" type, but when I really start liking a girl, I become like that. I don't have the sexual desire, but rather, I want to make her happy. Bleh...whatever. Means nothing from a guy who has no female interaction T_T.

Anyway, there are 3 types of girls in this world for me:
1. girls u wanna fuck
2. girls u wanna protect from being fucked
3. girls u wish would fuck off.

4. 13 year old boys u wanna fuck

hmm?
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
May 20 2007 01:57 GMT
#37
On May 20 2007 10:26 FirstBorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 10:22 gulii wrote:
I wanna fuck everybody. (not ahk)


gay.


How come? I meant girls.
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
May 20 2007 02:18 GMT
#38
On May 20 2007 09:43 ilovezil wrote:
Actually, I know exactly what the OP is talking about. Perhaps it's because the girls that I tend to like are the "cute" type instead of the "hot" type, but when I really start liking a girl, I become like that. I don't have the sexual desire, but rather, I want to make her happy. Bleh...whatever. Means nothing from a guy who has no female interaction T_T.

Anyway, there are 3 types of girls in this world for me:
1. girls u wanna fuck
2. girls u wanna protect from being fucked
3. girls u wish would fuck off.


same thing for me , ilovezil

ya, there are girls i just wanna protect them from bad things. i wanna make them happy and stuff. sex could make her happy, but it's like you just wanna be with her and see her smile.
and then, there are girls u just wish to fuck really hard.
SNSD fan
WiSaGaN
Profile Joined July 2006
203 Posts
May 20 2007 02:28 GMT
#39
What I think is that may be "sex" is considered to be something "evil" in your country's culture.

And you love this girl very much, so you unconsciously do not want this evil thing happened in your girl friend.

The best way to solve this is to get rid of the "evil" side of sex, and make you both believe that sex is something good and not to yourselves' value but also in moral standard.

Hope this could help you.
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
May 20 2007 02:32 GMT
#40
most people probably haven't felt love in a very extreme way. It's not odd at all that if in fact you are feeling extremely attached to a single person, you won't be interested in having sex with that person at first. The first thing you need to do is relax. Sex is the least important component of your relationship. Just be together, and talk as much as you can about things that you think you really don't want to talk about. If there's anything you're afraid to talk about, talk about it. And then, after that, it will probably mellow out and settle down into a wonderful normality, and you'll either want to have sex or you won't. But either way, not having sex with the one you love is about as trivial as not playing tennis with them. It has nothing to do with the substance of your relationship.
poasiodss
Profile Joined April 2007
United States63 Posts
May 20 2007 03:15 GMT
#41
Dear thread creator:
Dude I know exactly what you're going through - It happened to me before. One thing I can tell you is that you should get out of that as soon as possible. It will be impossible to maintain any sort of relationship (either friendship or 'relationship' relationship) feeling that way towards someone you are attracted to. From what I remember, it's not so much as missing that sexual feelings towards her, but more like a 'blockage' in your brain when it comes to dealing with that person. Really, it can fuck your thoughts up if you let this develop further. Induce sexual thoughts or something.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
May 20 2007 03:42 GMT
#42
fearing being bad in bed doesn't necessarily explain the porn although maybe it could. maybe you're gay and you love her in a made up fairytale way because you want to convince yourself, but you don't want to have sex because deep down somewhere you know you're not into it. it doesn't have to be an insult, and it obviously could be wrong.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
s4rk
Profile Joined December 2003
Philippines137 Posts
May 20 2007 03:48 GMT
#43
in love = hormones

After a year or so, it would be gone so and you're on your own in keeping what you have...

If you want a reference, one of my friends has this book by scott peck "the road less travelled" It would probably give you some insights, but I would not recommend basing your life on a book.
o rly
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
May 20 2007 03:56 GMT
#44
Has the thread author ever had sex before? I can only imagine his distaste for it either stems from long term mental abuse with the belief that sex is dirty and your privates are ugly, or that you are too nervous to do it for the first time and have convinced yourself that you just dont like sex rather than submitting yourself to the act.
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
May 20 2007 04:10 GMT
#45
Just relax it.
WiSaGaN
Profile Joined July 2006
203 Posts
May 20 2007 04:11 GMT
#46
On May 20 2007 11:32 bine wrote:
most people probably haven't felt love in a very extreme way. It's not odd at all that if in fact you are feeling extremely attached to a single person, you won't be interested in having sex with that person at first. The first thing you need to do is relax. Sex is the least important component of your relationship. Just be together, and talk as much as you can about things that you think you really don't want to talk about. If there's anything you're afraid to talk about, talk about it. And then, after that, it will probably mellow out and settle down into a wonderful normality, and you'll either want to have sex or you won't. But either way, not having sex with the one you love is about as trivial as not playing tennis with them. It has nothing to do with the substance of your relationship.


yeah,i am always wondering about what the attachment really is? maybe longing for love from a specific person.
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
May 20 2007 04:19 GMT
#47
On May 20 2007 11:32 bine wrote:
most people probably haven't felt love in a very extreme way. It's not odd at all that if in fact you are feeling extremely attached to a single person, you won't be interested in having sex with that person at first. The first thing you need to do is relax. Sex is the least important component of your relationship. Just be together, and talk as much as you can about things that you think you really don't want to talk about. If there's anything you're afraid to talk about, talk about it. And then, after that, it will probably mellow out and settle down into a wonderful normality, and you'll either want to have sex or you won't. But either way, not having sex with the one you love is about as trivial as not playing tennis with them. It has nothing to do with the substance of your relationship.


Well what if you are dating Venus Williams?
aka: Yaj
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 04:51:33
May 20 2007 04:50 GMT
#48
On May 20 2007 06:11 Fedaykin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 05:57 meRz wrote:
Wtf its like the complete opposite for me -.-

Almost the same here, when I'm really in love I wanna have sex with that one person all the time and really nobody else, so porn doesn't work, nor do other girls, just want 'her' all the time, sadly I'm without such a 'her' atm..



Uh dunno about the porn thingy but yeah, if you really like a girl all you wanna do is sex her up ;o
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
May 20 2007 06:29 GMT
#49
Thanks for all replies
I'm physically normal btw -.- I'm way too old for immature childish love but probably not experienced enough for a real commited relationship I guess.
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PissedOffEmo
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada777 Posts
May 20 2007 06:33 GMT
#50
its called being impotent
Shit happens and then you die
dropthesky
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Canada285 Posts
May 20 2007 06:35 GMT
#51
On May 20 2007 10:48 Pressure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May :43 ilovezil wrote:
Actually, I know exactly what the OP is talking about. Perhaps it's because the girls that I tend to like are the "cute" type instead of the "hot" type, but when I really start liking a girl, I become like that. I don't have the sexual desire, but rather, I want to make her happy. Bleh...whatever. Means nothing from a guy who has no female interaction T_T.

Anyway, there are 3 types of girls in this world for me:
1. girls u wanna fuck
2. girls u wanna protect from being fucked
3. girls u wish would fuck off.

4. 13 year old boys u wanna fuck

hmm?


Pressure nobody wants to fuck you
It Is Not That Impossible Is Unachievable, But Simply That Most People Refuse To Believe Otherwise...
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 20 2007 06:37 GMT
#52
when you're in real love and you get married and stuff, sex is something different, at least its suppose to be.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 06:40:32
May 20 2007 06:39 GMT
#53
i'm sure impotence isn't always a physical problem to say the least. age doesn't mean shit, you're just maybe not mature personally, or lacking somethign more specific
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
May 20 2007 06:45 GMT
#54
Try getting drunk.
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
May 20 2007 06:48 GMT
#55
On May 20 2007 15:45 skindzer wrote:
Try getting drunk.

best advice in thread
Legalize drugs and murder.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
May 20 2007 06:51 GMT
#56
I'm a virgin.

But If I'm with a girl I really care, I just can't stop thinking about making love to her in the showerzzzzz
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 06:52:15
May 20 2007 06:52 GMT
#57
On May 20 2007 15:35 dropthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 10:48 Pressure wrote:
On May :43 ilovezil wrote:
Actually, I know exactly what the OP is talking about. Perhaps it's because the girls that I tend to like are the "cute" type instead of the "hot" type, but when I really start liking a girl, I become like that. I don't have the sexual desire, but rather, I want to make her happy. Bleh...whatever. Means nothing from a guy who has no female interaction T_T.

Anyway, there are 3 types of girls in this world for me:
1. girls u wanna fuck
2. girls u wanna protect from being fucked
3. girls u wish would fuck off.

4. 13 year old boys u wanna fuck

hmm?


Pressure nobody wants to fuck you


Kevin is on a mission. To identify the next TL.net Pedo.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Imai_Eriko
Profile Joined January 2006
Singapore57 Posts
May 20 2007 06:57 GMT
#58
On May 20 2007 09:43 ilovezil wrote:
Actually, I know exactly what the OP is talking about. Perhaps it's because the girls that I tend to like are the "cute" type instead of the "hot" type, but when I really start liking a girl, I become like that. I don't have the sexual desire, but rather, I want to make her happy. Bleh...whatever. Means nothing from a guy who has no female interaction T_T.

Anyway, there are 3 types of girls in this world for me:
1. girls u wanna fuck
2. girls u wanna protect from being fucked
3. girls u wish would fuck off.



hahahahha
roflmao
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 07:48:26
May 20 2007 07:36 GMT
#59
On May 20 2007 11:32 bine wrote:
most people probably haven't felt love in a very extreme way. It's not odd at all that if in fact you are feeling extremely attached to a single person, you won't be interested in having sex with that person at first. The first thing you need to do is relax. Sex is the least important component of your relationship. Just be together, and talk as much as you can about things that you think you really don't want to talk about. If there's anything you're afraid to talk about, talk about it. And then, after that, it will probably mellow out and settle down into a wonderful normality, and you'll either want to have sex or you won't. But either way, not having sex with the one you love is about as trivial as not playing tennis with them. It has nothing to do with the substance of your relationship.


Yes and no. Sex isn't the backbone of (most, can't say for all) successful relationships, but it is a key part of them. Human beings by nature are sensual, which is why we like dressing up, being complimented, and feeling the touch of others. Having sex and expressing such interest with someone you love is the ultimate version of that, as it is the one person you care that much about giving you that sort of affirmation and providing a sensual outlet. Granted, there are varying degrees of who has what amount of sensuality about them. But, ask yourself how many people you know, including yourself, that like looking good and like having the interest of another. 99% or more do or are lying if they say they don't, because it's human nature to like feeling wanted. Being nice and respectful is good, but don't be just that, be more.

In other words, sex isn't the most important, but don't keep to a "safe, respectful" path if you ever want to experience full closeness, satisfaction, and passion with the one you love.


Edit: Agree with FakeSteve fully. The average woman will most likely take it as insult whether it's meant to be and explained in full or not. Imagine her (or any person you've ever been sexually interested in) walking up to you and saying that you don't turn her on. That she doesn't want you sexually in any way at all. It's not a good thing, unless you are severely insecure in your sexuality.
Think. :)
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 20 2007 07:37 GMT
#60
On May 20 2007 09:10 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 05:24 mrdx wrote:
Whenever I'm truly in love with someone, all my sexual desires are instantly turned off. Porn doesn't work (while just before I'm in love, even a cheap porn could usually turn my horny self on in < few secs). Kisses, hugs, touches, and sometimes even oral don't work either. Basically I don't want to have sex with the one I truly deeply love.

Have you ever experienced this problem? Or, should I see this as a problem? Is it because I'm Asian? Please feel free to share your thoughts.

Are you both happy and feel no regrets that the sexual desire isn't there?

Then there is no problem.


yes there is

because if she says she's ok with him not wanting to fuck her she's lying through her teeth
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
May 20 2007 07:49 GMT
#61
On May 20 2007 16:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 09:10 Bill307 wrote:
On May 20 2007 05:24 mrdx wrote:
Whenever I'm truly in love with someone, all my sexual desires are instantly turned off. Porn doesn't work (while just before I'm in love, even a cheap porn could usually turn my horny self on in < few secs). Kisses, hugs, touches, and sometimes even oral don't work either. Basically I don't want to have sex with the one I truly deeply love.

Have you ever experienced this problem? Or, should I see this as a problem? Is it because I'm Asian? Please feel free to share your thoughts.

Are you both happy and feel no regrets that the sexual desire isn't there?

Then there is no problem.


yes there is

because if she says she's ok with him not wanting to fuck her she's lying through her teeth


I was just wondering where you went my beloved FakeSteve
And I agree... what girl doesn't wanna have the shit banged out of her through as airtight?
aka: Yaj
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9616 Posts
May 20 2007 07:58 GMT
#62
I wouldn't try getting drunk
i dont uh.. perform as well. when i'm drunk. .. ..
PissedOffEmo
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada777 Posts
May 20 2007 08:06 GMT
#63
Its called being impotent
Shit happens and then you die
Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1014 Posts
May 20 2007 08:28 GMT
#64
I think having sex with the person you love is really important. Not so much the 'am I good in bed?' stuff...because if you are smart/open enough you can both talk about any problems/improve together/find out what each other wants far more then you could in another relationship, and even thats beside the point because they love you. What is important (or was for me), is the time afterwards.
Lying in bed naked after sex with the person you love most in the world...its just incredible. It just feels like the entire world has been set to rights.

So yeah...try not to miss out on that.
It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
May 20 2007 08:31 GMT
#65
i haven't bothered reading through... but if you don't fuck her, someone else will
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iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
May 20 2007 08:41 GMT
#66
On May 20 2007 15:29 mrdx wrote:
Thanks for all replies
I'm physically normal btw -.- I'm way too old for immature childish love but probably not experienced enough for a real commited relationship I guess.


Nobody is "too old" for immature childish love.
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to miss the mark
Profile Joined November 2005
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
May 20 2007 08:41 GMT
#67
I've been in love with my girlfriend for 3 years.

We still have sex all the time, and we enjoy it.
Or at least I do, but who cares.
Act happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love, and do what you will.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
May 20 2007 08:44 GMT
#68
LMAO, I've never heard of anything like this. Not being able to fuck your gf, because you're in love.

lol, I have it the other way around (like all other guys), I can't wait to fuck my gf, and I know she want it too.
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
May 20 2007 09:13 GMT
#69
On May 20 2007 17:31 RebelHeart wrote:
i haven't bothered reading through... but if you don't fuck her, someone else will
Truer words have never been spoken. Quit being selfish, if there is really nothing wrong with you and you just dont like sex, then have sex for her sake. Do it for her.
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
May 20 2007 09:24 GMT
#70
I think the problem is that you're gay, og your gf i fat and ugly.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 20 2007 12:39 GMT
#71
Man that girl doesn't make you go erotic. You probably need to find some other ones that turns you on both sexually and intellectually.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
May 20 2007 12:53 GMT
#72
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 20 2007 18:13 NewbSaibot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 17:31 RebelHeart wrote:
i haven't bothered reading through... but if you don't fuck her, someone else will
Truer words have never been spoken. Quit being selfish, if there is really nothing wrong with you and you just dont like sex, then have sex for her sake. Do it for her.

AMEN
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
May 20 2007 15:15 GMT
#73
Maybe you got some performance anxiety (if you can say something like that) ?
It's normal that you feel a bit shy/insecure when starting to have a sexual relation with a new person.
You may feel like having sex in the head but your body won't allow it.
Happened to me when I got together with my gf. I though she was hot and all but I couldn't get my little buddy to cooperate, kept thinking more on my erection then on my gf.
After a week or so I got over it and started to enjoy instead.

If that's the case just relax and think solely on her!

Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
May 20 2007 15:16 GMT
#74
On May 20 2007 17:44 MadNeSs wrote:
LMAO, I've never heard of anything like this. Not being able to fuck your gf, because you're in love.

lol, I have it the other way around (like all other guys), I can't wait to fuck my gf, and I know she want it too.


On May 20 2007 18:24 MadNeSs wrote:
I think the problem is that you're gay, og your gf i fat and ugly.


Sir, you are a fucking idiot. Plz stop posting.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 20 2007 15:27 GMT
#75
i guess there are different types of relationships

theres the kind where as soon as you meet the girl you want to bang her brains out 24/7

and then theres the other type where you're all in puppy love and want to just cuddle and hug and talk to her all day.

except this only lasts for a little while before you realize you want to bang her brains out 24/7

if you don't, time to find another girlfriend
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 15:31:04
May 20 2007 15:28 GMT
#76
On May 20 2007 10:48 Pressure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May :43 ilovezil wrote:
Actually, I know exactly what the OP is talking about. Perhaps it's because the girls that I tend to like are the "cute" type instead of the "hot" type, but when I really start liking a girl, I become like that. I don't have the sexual desire, but rather, I want to make her happy. Bleh...whatever. Means nothing from a guy who has no female interaction T_T.

Anyway, there are 3 types of girls in this world for me:
1. girls u wanna fuck
2. girls u wanna protect from being fucked
3. girls u wish would fuck off.

4. 13 year old boys u wanna fuck

hmm?

What the hell, Pressure? What kind of post is that?

On May 20 2007 18:24 MadNeSs wrote:
I think the problem is that you're gay, og your gf i fat and ugly.

You should be banned, bitch.

(1) Can we stop using the word "fuck" in regards to sex? What the fuck is wrong with you people? It's some kind of game? Or are you guys all so good at fucking/banging girls?

(2) I know many guys, including myself, who have felt that way about a girl. It's a stage that some people go through. I know that it comes from you having a bad feeling about sex because you think it's demeaning. It's not. As long as the feeling is right and you care about her, sex is an important and trusting activity between the two of you.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 15:39:30
May 20 2007 15:38 GMT
#77
yup, i know what you're talking about
i'd hook up np if the girl's cute and the situation is right, woo woo! but there are a few prospects that for me make messing around seem very trivial, i just want to have fun with them, hold their hand, and all that ridiculous lololol kissy cute stuff. i don't see my intentions staying so noble for very long though! =P

whatisprotoss just lay back and enjoy the forums, how do you live life so angrily
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
May 20 2007 15:41 GMT
#78
On May 21 2007 00:38 intrigue wrote:
yup, i know what you're talking about
i'd hook up np if the girl's cute and the situation is right, woo woo! but there are a few prospects that for me make messing around seem very trivial, i just want to have fun with them, hold their hand, and all that ridiculous lololol kissy cute stuff. i don't see my intentions staying so noble for very long though! =P

whatisprotoss just lay back and enjoy the forums, how do you live life so angrily

I enjoy the actual forums. You'll see that my response to this guy is straightforward and good, unlike other posters.

I just think it's crazy that staff members can post complete junk, when there supposedly are rules against doing so.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 15:55:06
May 20 2007 15:50 GMT
#79
On May 21 2007 00:28 WhatisProtoss wrote:
(1) Can we stop using the word "fuck" in regards to sex? What the fuck is wrong with you people? It's some kind of game? Or are you guys all so good at fucking/banging girls?

(2) I know many guys, including myself, who have felt that way about a girl. It's a stage that some people go through. I know that it comes from you having a bad feeling about sex because you think it's demeaning. It's not. As long as the feeling is right and you care about her, sex is an important and trusting activity between the two of you.

for (2), that feeling goes away really fast. i mean, for ilovezil or mrdx or whoever gets these kind of feelings for "cute" girls, don't you just feel urges after periods of time? i mean do you just go home and jerk off or whatever after hanging out with this girl? you can't just go weeks or whatever without ever having an orgasm if you're seeing her right?

and for (1), "fuck" and "bang" are necessary because they express a complete different meaning than "make love" or "have sex with." the connotation is more raw, its more primal, its more sexual and dirty, it's less candlelight and music and more bathroom stall or tabletop. i don't see what's wrong with people using that word if their intent is to convey a certain meaning.

certainly not censoring those words altogether which is what you're suggesting, that's kind of ridiculous.

i also don't think people using "fuck" or "bang" necessarily implies anything about them treating sex like a game or how they view how "good" they are at getting sex. you are reading way too much into it and being oversensitive.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 20 2007 15:51 GMT
#80
WiP always makes thread entertaining.

Like a really active ganfei
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
May 20 2007 15:54 GMT
#81
On May 21 2007 00:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 00:28 WhatisProtoss wrote:
(1) Can we stop using the word "fuck" in regards to sex? What the fuck is wrong with you people? It's some kind of game? Or are you guys all so good at fucking/banging girls?

(2) I know many guys, including myself, who have felt that way about a girl. It's a stage that some people go through. I know that it comes from you having a bad feeling about sex because you think it's demeaning. It's not. As long as the feeling is right and you care about her, sex is an important and trusting activity between the two of you.

for (2), that feeling goes away really fast. i mean, for ilovezil or mrdx or whoever gets these kind of feelings for "cute" girls, don't you just feel urges after periods of time? i mean do you just go home and jerk off or whatever after hanging out with this girl? you can't just go weeks or whatever without ever having an orgasm if you're seeing her right?

and for (1), "fuck" and "bang" are necessary because they express a complete different meaning than "make love" or "have sex with." the connotation is more raw, its more primal, its more sexual and dirty, it's less candlelight and music and more bathroom stall or tabletop. i don't see what's wrong with people using that word if their intent is to convey a certain meaning. certainly not censoring it altogether which is what you're suggesting, that's kind of ridiculous.

(1) If he loves this girl, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be using "fuck" or "bang." Don't try to justify such words.....

(2) What did you just write? I don't understand what you said. I think it's an attempt to agree with me.... but you just didn't read my post carefully enough. It's just a stage that certain guys go through. He just has to realize that sex isn't such a demeaning activity and you should be able to do it easily with the girl you like.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
May 20 2007 15:55 GMT
#82
On May 21 2007 00:51 fusionsdf wrote:
WiP always makes thread entertaining.

Like a really active ganfei

Thank you. Except I don't know who ganfei is.....
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 16:00:14
May 20 2007 15:58 GMT
#83
i read your post fine. i do agree with you about that, i was just bringing up a point about simple sexual desire in guys and how its difficult to suppress for long periods of time. i was asking a question and trying to figure out how guys with those feelings release their sexual desire. is it just turned off? do they find other outlets?
(2) What did you just write? I don't understand what you said. I think it's an attempt to agree with me.... but you just didn't read my post carefully enough.

is the "what did you just write?" really needed

as to (1), i don't see how that opinion has any bearing on how other people use the words and whether they should stop using them altogether, or how them using those words say anything about this statement:
On May 21 2007 00:28 WhatisProtoss wrote:
(1) Can we stop using the word "fuck" in regards to sex? What the fuck is wrong with you people? It's some kind of game? Or are you guys all so good at fucking/banging girls?

you're basically suggesting people stop using "fuck" in general to describe sex, because why? what's wrong with it?
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
May 20 2007 16:00 GMT
#84
I'm saying, stop using it here because this guy has no intention of "fucking" this girl.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 16:03:59
May 20 2007 16:03 GMT
#85
well that's different than "stop using it in regards to sex". your post was unclear. it seemed like you were advocating dropping the use of the word to describe sex in general.

if thats what you truly meant then why add the stuff about it being a game or "you guys all so good at fucking/banging girls"

i don't see how their usage of "fuck" has any implications for how they view sex in general or how "good" they view themselves at getting sex

as i explained before "fuck" and "bang" have different meanings than "make love to"
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 20 2007 16:05 GMT
#86
and this guy will have intentions of fucking this girl... eventually.

would it be insulting to her if he went around bragging about how he likes to fuck her? yes.

but if he loves her will he truly want to fuck her? definitely. if he doesn't its not a good, healthy relationship.
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
May 20 2007 16:08 GMT
#87
You try too hard to annoy me. Too hard to the point where almost every sentence of yours contains "fuck" in it just because I disapproved of people using it. Keep trying.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 16:12:25
May 20 2007 16:10 GMT
#88
On May 21 2007 01:08 WhatisProtoss wrote:
You try too hard to annoy me. Too hard to the point where almost every sentence of yours contains "fuck" in it just because I disapproved of people using it. Keep trying.

i am not trying to annoy you. fuck is a word that implies primal, instinctual, raw sex. it and the urge to have it is needed, at least sometimes, in a healthy relationship.

you also said you only disagree with the terms usage with regards to the actual guy having sex with his girl, but in reality that relationship just needs some good fucking, not "making love" or whatever.

i used the word for a reason, for its meaning, it's not to annoy you. honestly, it wasn't. you should try actually reading the post i made instead of seeing it as an attack on yourself. not everything revolves around your personal character, i was making a point about his relationship and the usage of the word.
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
May 20 2007 16:28 GMT
#89
If this guy does love her.... and makes the decision to have sex with her... he certainly won't think of it as "fucking" her. He'll want to "make love" to her. Like you said, "fucking" is something that's primal and raw. Sex doesn't have to be that way, and I'm sure this guy doesn't want it to be.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 16:31:08
May 20 2007 16:30 GMT
#90
i prefer the word fuck to sex; sex sound so machine like, automatic, while in fuck there is at least desire.
i think in a love based relationship both stages should be present: the making love one and the abstinence; alternate one with the other.
if you don't abuse masturbation, those it will come on and off naturaly.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 20 2007 16:33 GMT
#91
On May 21 2007 01:28 WhatisProtoss wrote:
If this guy does love her.... and makes the decision to have sex with her... he certainly won't think of it as "fucking" her. He'll want to "make love" to her. Like you said, "fucking" is something that's primal and raw. Sex doesn't have to be that way, and I'm sure this guy doesn't want it to be.

i agree with you that it doesn't have to be that way.

but it also doesn't have to always be "making love."

sometimes you want to cuddle and hold your girlfriends hand and kiss under the moonlight.
sometimes you want to rent a cheap hotel room and just go at it all night.

one is making love, one is fucking, both are OK to do to your girlfriend.

primal, raw sex is fine for couples, i'd even say its healthy. not all the time, but sometimes.

people always say the best sex couples have is the kind they have right after an argument, and its because they're both angry and just release that energy that way. its "fucking" in the pure sense of the word.
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
May 20 2007 16:37 GMT
#92
You just say the same thing over and over again. Idiot.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 20 2007 16:40 GMT
#93
On May 21 2007 01:37 WhatisProtoss wrote:
You just say the same thing over and over again. Idiot.

i think my point was perfectly valid, this is a completely unnecessary flame.
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
May 20 2007 16:43 GMT
#94
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
May 20 2007 16:44 GMT
#95
that is a love quarrel; just kiss and make up it's all a matter of perspective;
yes, people are diferent.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 16:45:30
May 20 2007 16:45 GMT
#96
I'm not angry. I'm just tired of responding to the same post, rephrased.

Why are you so angry, Dronebabo? You like to try and ban me? Or complain to me to other members? It's not even about the thread to you. It's about trying to flame me.
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
May 20 2007 16:46 GMT
#97
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 16:48:54
May 20 2007 16:48 GMT
#98
hahaha, this is clearly srs business. chill out.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
May 20 2007 16:48 GMT
#99
Actually, I didn't respond to the bitching you've done to the other members about me. I was just rephrasing what you wrote, and substituted "Dronebabo" for "Whatisprotoss."
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
May 20 2007 16:49 GMT
#100
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MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-20 16:56:38
May 20 2007 16:51 GMT
#101
It is natural for someone preoccupied with amorous feelings to lose their lecherous habits. These habits occur most frequently among those who are bored and live in a perpectual purgatory of menial existence. When one has no higher pleasures to indulge in, one sinks to taking pleasures in the menial aspects of biological life - food, drink, sex, etc. When one is stimulated by anything else, whether intellectual curiosity, a personal labour of great importance or the excitement of amorous feelings stimulated by non-carnal pleasures, one's experiences rise above those previous aspects of life which have always bored him anyhow.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 20 2007 16:52 GMT
#102
moltke is transcendent of his mortal existence.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
May 20 2007 16:53 GMT
#103
So what Moltke is saying is:

I'm just a bachelor
I'm looking for a partner
Someone who knows how to ride
Without even falling off

Gotta be compatible
Takes me to my limits
Girl when I break you off
I promise that you won't want to get off

[Chorus]
If your horny, Let's do it
Ride it, My Pony
My saddle's waiting
Come and jump on it

If your horny, Let's do it
Ride it, My Pony
My saddle's waiting
Come and jump on it

Sitting here flossing
Peeping your steelo
Just once if I have the chance
The things I will do to you
You and your body
Every single portion
Send chills up and down your spine
Juices flowing down your thigh

[Chorus]

If we're gonna get nasty, Baby
First we'll show & tell
Till I reach your ponytail
Lurk all over and through you baby
Until I reach your stream
You'll be on my jockey team

[Chorus]
[repeats and ends]

(Ride it)
(My Saddle's)
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
May 20 2007 17:00 GMT
#104
hahahahahaha smurg
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 20 2007 17:09 GMT
#105
tat was epic. do a video of you singing that
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
May 20 2007 17:14 GMT
#106
OP, I had that same problem like 8 yrs ago when I was ur age.

Dun worry, it leaves with your innocence.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
May 20 2007 18:25 GMT
#107
On May 21 2007 01:53 Smurg wrote:
So what Moltke is saying is:

I'm just a bachelor
I'm looking for a partner
Someone who knows how to ride
Without even falling off

Gotta be compatible
Takes me to my limits
Girl when I break you off
I promise that you won't want to get off

[Chorus]
If your horny, Let's do it
Ride it, My Pony
My saddle's waiting
Come and jump on it

If your horny, Let's do it
Ride it, My Pony
My saddle's waiting
Come and jump on it

Sitting here flossing
Peeping your steelo
Just once if I have the chance
The things I will do to you
You and your body
Every single portion
Send chills up and down your spine
Juices flowing down your thigh

[Chorus]

If we're gonna get nasty, Baby
First we'll show & tell
Till I reach your ponytail
Lurk all over and through you baby
Until I reach your stream
You'll be on my jockey team

[Chorus]
[repeats and ends]

(Ride it)
(My Saddle's)


We want a video. Or at least a theme song.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
May 20 2007 21:59 GMT
#108
Well pretty much the thread creator either loves this girl way to much to the point where he idolizes her. Or he is just scared of not being good in bed. I remember when I was in love I couldn't even imagine having sex with this girl. But I was young and dumb and that quickly faded. Then it turned into fear of not being good enough.

And to hot_bid and whatisprotoss there is nothing wrong with fuck at all. I wrote sex in my little paragraph but I'm pretty sure if I was actually telling this to someone in person I would have used fucking her instead. So yea People love to fuck the people they love... I really don't even get that whole argument up there.
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
May 20 2007 22:01 GMT
#109
On May 21 2007 06:59 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
Well pretty much the thread creator either loves this girl way to much to the point where he idolizes her. Or he is just scared of not being good in bed. I remember when I was in love I couldn't even imagine having sex with this girl. But I was young and dumb and that quickly faded. Then it turned into fear of not being good enough.

And to hot_bid and whatisprotoss there is nothing wrong with fuck at all. I wrote sex in my little paragraph but I'm pretty sure if I was actually telling this to someone in person I would have used fucking her instead. So yea People love to fuck the people they love... I really don't even get that whole argument up there.


Ah, the joy of being young, dumb, and full of cum!!!
Clutch3
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1344 Posts
May 20 2007 22:10 GMT
#110
On May 21 2007 01:51 MoltkeWarding wrote:
It is natural for someone preoccupied with amorous feelings to lose their lecherous habits. These habits occur most frequently among those who are bored and live in a perpectual purgatory of menial existence. When one has no higher pleasures to indulge in, one sinks to taking pleasures in the menial aspects of biological life - food, drink, sex, etc. When one is stimulated by anything else, whether intellectual curiosity, a personal labour of great importance or the excitement of amorous feelings stimulated by non-carnal pleasures, one's experiences rise above those previous aspects of life which have always bored him anyhow.


I nominate this for this year's most condescending post ever.

Translation: I'm better than those of you who actually enjoy sex.

Moltke, do you really think that it's impossible for a person to enjoy sex and to enjoy "higher" pursuits at the same time??

Well, I mean, not actually AT the EXACT same time, but...

(Hey that gives me an idea, maybe we can get FakeSteve to do a picture of Moltke and his dream girl going at it while he reads 18th-century philosophy. Or maybe that would be a bad idea?)
Clutch3
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1344 Posts
May 20 2007 22:11 GMT
#111
On May 21 2007 01:53 Smurg wrote:
So what Moltke is saying is:

I'm just a bachelor
I'm looking for a partner
Someone who knows how to ride
Without even falling off

ROFL!! This was priceless.

It took me until the chorus to remember what it was.
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
May 20 2007 22:13 GMT
#112
On May 21 2007 07:10 Clutch3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 01:51 MoltkeWarding wrote:
It is natural for someone preoccupied with amorous feelings to lose their lecherous habits. These habits occur most frequently among those who are bored and live in a perpectual purgatory of menial existence. When one has no higher pleasures to indulge in, one sinks to taking pleasures in the menial aspects of biological life - food, drink, sex, etc. When one is stimulated by anything else, whether intellectual curiosity, a personal labour of great importance or the excitement of amorous feelings stimulated by non-carnal pleasures, one's experiences rise above those previous aspects of life which have always bored him anyhow.


I nominate this for this year's most condescending post ever.

Translation: I'm better than those of you who actually enjoy sex.

Moltke, do you really think that it's impossible for a person to enjoy sex and to enjoy "higher" pursuits at the same time??

Well, I mean, not actually AT the EXACT same time, but...

(Hey that gives me an idea, maybe we can get FakeSteve to do a picture of Moltke and his dream girl going at it while he reads 18th-century philosophy. Or maybe that would be a bad idea?)

you mean his dream man
SeBASTa
Profile Joined September 2003
China1147 Posts
May 20 2007 22:35 GMT
#113
On May 20 2007 05:32 Rekrul wrote:
you're not supposed to have sex with your family, don't worry it's normal

Insight
En Taro Terran
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
May 20 2007 22:44 GMT
#114
On May 20 2007 09:43 ilovezil wrote:
Anyway, there are 3 types of girls in this world for me:
1. girls u wanna fuck
2. girls u wanna protect from being fucked
3. girls u wish would fuck off.



OMG I felt from my chair=))
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
May 20 2007 23:29 GMT
#115
you felt what from your chair?!
MadneZz
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden234 Posts
May 20 2007 23:50 GMT
#116
The chair is obivously aroused.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
May 21 2007 00:02 GMT
#117
try to masturbate thinking on your girl
if u cant
that mean u love her~
^_^v
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-21 00:35:46
May 21 2007 00:26 GMT
#118
On May 21 2007 07:10 Clutch3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 01:51 MoltkeWarding wrote:
It is natural for someone preoccupied with amorous feelings to lose their lecherous habits. These habits occur most frequently among those who are bored and live in a perpectual purgatory of menial existence. When one has no higher pleasures to indulge in, one sinks to taking pleasures in the menial aspects of biological life - food, drink, sex, etc. When one is stimulated by anything else, whether intellectual curiosity, a personal labour of great importance or the excitement of amorous feelings stimulated by non-carnal pleasures, one's experiences rise above those previous aspects of life which have always bored him anyhow.


I nominate this for this year's most condescending post ever.

Translation: I'm better than those of you who actually enjoy sex.

Moltke, do you really think that it's impossible for a person to enjoy sex and to enjoy "higher" pursuits at the same time??

Well, I mean, not actually AT the EXACT same time, but...

(Hey that gives me an idea, maybe we can get FakeSteve to do a picture of Moltke and his dream girl going at it while he reads 18th-century philosophy. Or maybe that would be a bad idea?)


I think it's a fairly accurate description of what goes on today, when sexuality is open, yet has "lost its laughter." The great love affairs of passion that we see in Stendhal or Flaubert are things f the 19th century, and people no longer pursue even those fleeting immoralities, which may at least be said to be heroic. The French novel of the 19th century was a study of amorous feelings, but we in 2007 are much more primitive than that. Today it does not take a great seducer to obtain that honour which we reserved for heroes of passion. Because of the openess of sexuality, because of the baseness of its contemporary representation, and because of the social isolation of the modern person, (the estrangement from others creates the strange circumstance that we frequently practise the most intimate acts while meaning nothing,) any thinking person will at one time or another become bored or even depressed with its meaninglessness. The sphere of happiness (and I do not exclude sexual activity from it, although it will always be a secondary act, a matter which is caused rather than a cause in itself) will inevitably transfer to those activities in life which still have some semblence of meaning.

You say I am being condescending. I think quite the opposite. I have a propensity to assume the decency of every individual I meet, often without much justice. I cannot quite believe that I live in a neo-Babylon, and the fact that I bother to say what I say here should demonstrate that. I post without a self-conscious sense of exceptionalism, and if the singularity of my opinion makes such an impression in your mind, it is no fault of mine. I do not post to criticize others, and I speak of general, not particular evils. Is there a more delicate or, in your opinion, modest way to have one's mind out? Perhaps you would think it better of my modesty if I were to opine, in light of the lack of sympathy I receive, that my words are too stupid to post, and deprive myself of any freedom of expression.

If I offend your personal habits, and you find them defensible, you ought to use your self-knowledge as a source of strength to mount a counter-opinion, and it may even be interesting. Talking about my motives isn't.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
May 21 2007 01:22 GMT
#119
On May 20 2007 16:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 09:10 Bill307 wrote:
On May 20 2007 05:24 mrdx wrote:
Whenever I'm truly in love with someone, all my sexual desires are instantly turned off. Porn doesn't work (while just before I'm in love, even a cheap porn could usually turn my horny self on in < few secs). Kisses, hugs, touches, and sometimes even oral don't work either. Basically I don't want to have sex with the one I truly deeply love.

Have you ever experienced this problem? Or, should I see this as a problem? Is it because I'm Asian? Please feel free to share your thoughts.

Are you both happy and feel no regrets that the sexual desire isn't there?

Then there is no problem.


yes there is

because if she says she's ok with him not wanting to fuck her she's lying through her teeth

Haha, probably.

Well mrdx, you might have to find a girlfriend (and a wife) who shares the same "problem" as you. Otherwise, for most girls you'll be a good friend at best.
zoast
Profile Joined February 2007
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-21 02:30:10
May 21 2007 02:07 GMT
#120
personally, I know there are much more important things that determine my passion and love towards another individual than culture.

while I agree that sex isn't the most meaninful thing you can participate it, I think calling it meaningless (or lecherous) is really overdramatic. There are countless works of art that are inspiried by intoxication with sex or frustration and intoxication with someone the artist wants to have sex/love with.

Your brain is going to rot too and the sun will eat the earth along with our collective knowledge, but we'll probably kill ourselves way before then. You can almost argue that everything is meaningless. Become a scientist or maybe try to enjoy your life every once in awhile.
I dont like stuff that sucks
uvaer
Profile Joined April 2007
Norway157 Posts
May 21 2007 02:51 GMT
#121
On May 20 2007 06:11 Fedaykin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 05:57 meRz wrote:
Wtf its like the complete opposite for me -.-

Almost the same here, when I'm really in love I wanna have sex with that one person all the time and really nobody else, so porn doesn't work, nor do other girls, just want 'her' all the time, sadly I'm without such a 'her' atm..



we're sailin the same boat man :/

Clutch3
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1344 Posts
May 21 2007 02:54 GMT
#122
On May 21 2007 09:26 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2007 07:10 Clutch3 wrote:
On May 21 2007 01:51 MoltkeWarding wrote:
It is natural for someone preoccupied with amorous feelings to lose their lecherous habits. These habits occur most frequently among those who are bored and live in a perpectual purgatory of menial existence. When one has no higher pleasures to indulge in, one sinks to taking pleasures in the menial aspects of biological life - food, drink, sex, etc. When one is stimulated by anything else, whether intellectual curiosity, a personal labour of great importance or the excitement of amorous feelings stimulated by non-carnal pleasures, one's experiences rise above those previous aspects of life which have always bored him anyhow.


I nominate this for this year's most condescending post ever.

Translation: I'm better than those of you who actually enjoy sex.

Moltke, do you really think that it's impossible for a person to enjoy sex and to enjoy "higher" pursuits at the same time??

Well, I mean, not actually AT the EXACT same time, but...

(Hey that gives me an idea, maybe we can get FakeSteve to do a picture of Moltke and his dream girl going at it while he reads 18th-century philosophy. Or maybe that would be a bad idea?)


I think it's a fairly accurate description of what goes on today, when sexuality is open, yet has "lost its laughter." The great love affairs of passion that we see in Stendhal or Flaubert are things f the 19th century, and people no longer pursue even those fleeting immoralities, which may at least be said to be heroic. The French novel of the 19th century was a study of amorous feelings, but we in 2007 are much more primitive than that. Today it does not take a great seducer to obtain that honour which we reserved for heroes of passion. Because of the openess of sexuality, because of the baseness of its contemporary representation, and because of the social isolation of the modern person, (the estrangement from others creates the strange circumstance that we frequently practise the most intimate acts while meaning nothing,) any thinking person will at one time or another become bored or even depressed with its meaninglessness. The sphere of happiness (and I do not exclude sexual activity from it, although it will always be a secondary act, a matter which is caused rather than a cause in itself) will inevitably transfer to those activities in life which still have some semblence of meaning.

You say I am being condescending. I think quite the opposite. I have a propensity to assume the decency of every individual I meet, often without much justice. I cannot quite believe that I live in a neo-Babylon, and the fact that I bother to say what I say here should demonstrate that. I post without a self-conscious sense of exceptionalism, and if the singularity of my opinion makes such an impression in your mind, it is no fault of mine. I do not post to criticize others, and I speak of general, not particular evils. Is there a more delicate or, in your opinion, modest way to have one's mind out? Perhaps you would think it better of my modesty if I were to opine, in light of the lack of sympathy I receive, that my words are too stupid to post, and deprive myself of any freedom of expression.

If I offend your personal habits, and you find them defensible, you ought to use your self-knowledge as a source of strength to mount a counter-opinion, and it may even be interesting. Talking about my motives isn't.

First of all, plenty of people are condescending without trying to be, and plenty are condescending without knowing it. Whether or not you condescend really depends on the opinions of the audience.

Your posts seem to have a pattern of attacking modern-day society as more primitive, base, meaningless, or immoral than (European) societies of years past. When you attack society as a whole, even though it is a general and not a specific criticism, it is still an attack. If you were to make a topic attacking all the posters on Team Liquid, you'd probably get some criticism for it, and that's not far from what you've done here. And that criticism would be justified. Your "neo-Babylon" remark shows barely veiled contempt for the whole of society in which you live, as do many, many of your other posts.

I have no problem with you freely expressing your opinion. Your posts are always thought out and seem among the best on TL.net in terms of provoking thought and discussion. I am glad that you take the time to post here, because you bring a unique viewpoint. I will just say this, in case you wonder why I so frequently choose to respond to your posts. The thing that gets me going is your tendency to criticize the entire modern world, without bothering to include the smallest detail about your own personal life. Contrary to what you have understood, if anything, I want you to be _more_ personal, not less. You go on at length about thinkers of the past, but I don't see anything in your posts that's personal just to you. It's almost as if your viewpoint is simply an amalgam of thoughts cobbled together from the writings of people long dead. In a post in the recent feminism thread, I shared some personal details in an attempt to better explain my viewpoint. You did not reciprocate, nor did you even reply to that part of my post.

You are right, though, in that it's silly for us to debate your motives. In my previous post I asked you if you feel that it is impossible for a well-rounded person, who has more "meaningful" purposes in their life, to enjoy sex. Your response is not totally clear on that point, but it seems to indicate that you feel the answer is yes, but that sex is, in the end, without meaning or substance when compared to certain "higher" pursuits.

So, back to the original issue.

Firstly, that sex, more than a lot of other things, has the potential to have profound significance and affect great changes in the relationships between people. Yes, sex is a biological act, which you can argue has no more meaning per se than does brushing one's teeth. But sex is also one of those amazing concepts which has been discussed and debated throughout history, which is the subject of countless and fascinating works of art and literature, which always figures as a key topic in the societal make-up of any civilization. It is something that all of us have strong opinions on (simply browse the reply counts of different TL threads to see this), for any number of reasons. All of these facts indicate our intellectual and emotional fascination with sex. And it is this, not the act itself, which gives the act of sex meaning. Whether it is ultimately for good or ill, it's impossible to argue that there is significance. Certain sexual experiences have played key roles in my emotional relationships with different women (while some experiences ended up playing little role). Just as with intellectual pursuits, sometimes you stumble on something with lasting value, and sometimes you end up chasing your tail (pardon the pun).

And all of this totally ignores the fact that sex is the act by which new people are conceived. This fact alone should suggest that most people will harbor strong emotions and feelings relating to sex. It's unreasonable to assume that these people are fooling themselves into caring about something that's eventually meaningless.

Without getting into too many personal details, sexual experiences are included in some of my fondest and most painful memories. And these memories also include personal memories which are related to what you consider the more important "intellectual pursuits", "personal labors", and "non-carnal amorous desires". As with all denizens of TL.net, I am realtively young, but I've experienced a great deal of things in relation to these three aforementioned topics. And I will disagree with anyone who feels that I cannot fully pursue or enjoy all of these things simultaneously, or who argues that any one of them is without substance.
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
May 21 2007 03:02 GMT
#123
I agree with most of what Moltke is saying in general, so long as it is only applied to the average social being. In popular culture, sex has become a novelty and less of a plateau. I don't share the same opinion of this being an intensely bad thing as I've less a mind for caring about society and more about individuals, however.

Sex is still meaningful to those who cherish it's passion, it's aspects of sharing with another. Those "higher pursuits", which are entirely subjective on an individual basis, can indeed interrupt ones passion for somebody they love and admire. If you were still to say that sex in general is something only enjoyed by those who do not truly think, I believe it would only be a reflection of a different set of morals on your part, which cannot be rightfully argued against. Merely disagreed with. I've experienced it first-hand with my fiancee and best friend, who I've been with for seven years of my life. Known for eleven years. I pursue everything with her and while other things stop passion occasionally, such as a wonderful night spent by a lakeside or merely a day spent in thoughtful contemplation together, sex brings so much more than I ever imagined it would. It intensifies love, opens you more fully to one another, allows you an outlet that is shared together for your sensuality, and kindles passion; in sexual nature as well as others, drawing you closer emotionally and thus allowing for further comfort intellectually between you.

Also, it simply feels incredible. Nothing wrong with casual sex. It damages nothing so long as it isn't rampant (which I'm aware it is in social view, but again, I've more a tendency to take it to an individual level) enough to take away from the enjoyment that person will feel having it in a more "meaningful" way, with somebody they love.
Think. :)
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
May 21 2007 03:21 GMT
#124
it's all about personal priorities.
i also put the 'higher pursuits' above sex, and that does not mean i don't/can't enjoy it.
if i would to choose beetwen some 'cosmic truths revealed to me' and fucking J.Alba, or any love/women/emotion/feeling thinggies i would choose the first
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
May 21 2007 06:13 GMT
#125
I am not hostile to specific people but to specific acts, and the condition that I do not single out people specifically suggests the nature of the condemnation I wish to express. Everyone, in one way or another, is hostile to certain acts if he has any opinion of what is decent (I make an exception for bine.) You yourself would probably not see many of the attitudes toward sex and women expressed often on this forum with much fondness. When I make such an opinion, I cannot be so political as to delicately balance myself in the center of the spectrum of the opinion, that the pressure of either side will cancel each other out to afford me a safe measure of security. But every time I clearly mark my position, I hope to find people whose experiences match mine. I am disappointed if I cannot find some sympathy among my generation. Therefore what I say is not hostile by design, and its purpose does not place either offense as its primary purpose.

Secondly you bring up the matter of my impersonality. Of course, I do not discuss personal matters too closely on the internet (nor do I ask them from others, do not misunderstand me,) and I have rarely used experience in direct support of my opinion. The reasons are several. First, a person\'s life is private and the internet is not a suitable forum to have them out to explicit detail. Second, the argument from experience is easily exploited to give exaggerated effect. ex. \"As a black-Canadian, I feel x about the issue of racism in Canada,\" as if that fact alone gives one authority. Thirdly, most people are unable to give you credit you with a broader-minded opinion, once you have labelled yourself in a certain category. They will reduce the value of your opinion based on who you happen to be. Fourthly, experience being unequal among people, there is no way of evenly progressing in debate. It can, on the contrary, be used to sabotage the debate thus: \"You say blacks commit more crime, but I have 3 black friends who have never committed a crime in their lives.\" What is one to say? \"Well, I know 3 black people who did\"?

I did not ask you to reveal your personal experiences. I suggested you draw strength from them. There is a difference. A person who considers his own experiences and tries to bring them to reason already has an advantage.

I took your question as an inquisitorial one when I read it. I do not know what you mean by \"well-rounded.\" I am not a well-rounded person. The noisy, faceless masses I see in bars and discos I do not consider well-rounded. I do not consider anyone who claims

btw girls love to be fucked so stop acting gay


or

you are scared, i was at the start, im assuming you\'re young. You just don\'t wanna suck, and the woman you love think you are a loser in bed.


to be holding a well-rounded opinion. The point is, that a large portion of the world, and perhaps a majority of this forum, are not "well-rounded."

The meaning of sex being of two parts- one physical and the other stimulated by the imagination, it's proper to distinguish them. The physical part means nothing. Humans, who think in verbal meanings, have, in that regard, no greater honour, than animals, who do not. The other part, the imagination, is able to increase pleasure by its own power. The imagination is able to take pleasure in certain symbols, that is, meanings. After marriage, sex might be a ceremony of consummation, and therefore play a decisive role in the mind of the individual, of cementing the bond between two people. In the raring of a family, the sexual act may take on the symbolisms of genesis in one's mind. The catelogue of what men of imagination may take meaning in the sexual act is more vast than my own imagination. At the same time there are those things stimulated by sins- pride, the pride in possessing a woman one regards as superior to oneself, or vanity- the ability to boast about sleeping with x, or wrath, the revenge one takes on someone by sleeping with his wife, etc. These all pass through the minds of different kinds of people, with different moral, social or cultural backgrounds. My original post was merely indicating something I often see at the bottom of modern lechery, that is, a void of meaning in the lives of many people, which they attempt to fill either by sensual pleasures, effectively blotting out their hopeless aspirations for higher things, or, the slightly more sophisticated responder, those who indulge in those symbolic acts they attempt to thrust upon themselves, but willed meaning being entirely artificial, find themselves in the end denying that a more meaningful activity exists and persuades himself to live in that purgatory because he no longer believes in heaven.

With this insight in mind, I sought to explain that what the OP experienced could be explained on the following grounds. The animation of love may pull one out of that purgatory and give promise to higher things, and drawn by that promise, one abandons those meaningless things which one used to take for pleasures. It is possible that in the development of this interest, sexuality may come into play again, but with a different significance, and its consummation will essentially be a different act.

And that is what I meant by the OP, if you really think it ought to be clarified.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10535 Posts
May 21 2007 06:33 GMT
#126
funny that you see this kind of threads and also you hear constant bitching about "why girls end up always with bad boys".

Grow some balls, queer.
Im back, in pog form!
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-01 15:29:33
May 21 2007 07:04 GMT
#127
On May 20 2007 05:32 Rekrul wrote:
you're not supposed to have sex with your family, don't worry it's normal


i have to admit i loled when i read this
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
May 21 2007 07:20 GMT
#128
Moltke, while I generally agree with your assessment of modern attitudes towards sex by much of the unwashed masses of today, I disagree that this is a devolution of past societies. The world of 19th century French movies and novels is a very narrow window into a very narrow world. I would argue that the underachieving have always sought to drown their sorrows in drink and strive for the quick lay over everlasting love. Menial existence has been the reality for the vast majority of history's subjects, not just those depressed by society today. The difference today would be the much greater accessibility of those baser influences, and the earlier age in which people are spoiled to their ease.

In addition, you call the pursuit of sex "meaningless" compared to the pursuit of love, but for many people that is the height of their ambitions. They would consider promiscuity as a much higher achievement than honourable, romantic, and monogamous love. Call it the instinct to "sow wild oats", or call it the age-old pride of sexual conquest, I don't think you can just dismiss it as the lowest form of pleasure.

From my own personal experience, the physical aspect of the relationship walked in lockstep with the growth of emotional intensity in the relationship. In my previous encounters, the growth of a relationship which lacks that parallel physical development destines the connection to remain at a friends only level (not that this is always undesirable).
ModeratorGodfather
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 21 2007 11:42 GMT
#129
See, this is why we need Chibi

a) both to post something entertaining about his concepts of "sexual desire"

and

b) own Moltke with another " I don't knwo what the fksc you're talking about bur adio umbrallsles are better", or whatever that was.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
May 21 2007 12:07 GMT
#130
sex does not consist of a physical and imaginative component that is wrong thinking.

sex consists of 14 components: physical, psychological, spiritual, financial, retroactive, aerobic, occult, biological, sociological, emotional, marital, martial, chronological, and tetrakaidecessential. these components are paradoxically arranged as both a hierarchy and a continuum. this hierarchy situates the components biological, martial, and aerobic in a trinity niether confounding the persons nor separating the substance as the apex stone of a pyramid of inferior (spatially and evaluatively) virtues, which are by row: (1) emotional (2) occult, chronological, and tetrakaidecessential (3) retroactive, financial, marital, and spiritual and (4) sociological. the continuum in contradistinction organizes all 14 components (including financial and sociological) between two points: financial and sociological. the components exist gradientially, transmuting into one another by infinitesimal increments and then undoing their transmutations as one progresses from one end of the circle to the other.

further inquiries into the nature of sex, here I reference Phineas Drummond Chapman and his Amor et Carbediensis: Summa Prognosticalia, have suggested 15th and 16th components, sexual and technological respectively, but attempts to replicate his famous experiments have ended inconclusively and his most detailed journals presumably lie with his remains in the arctic.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 21 2007 12:17 GMT
#131
On May 21 2007 21:07 tinman wrote:
sex does not consist of a physical and imaginative component that is wrong thinking.

sex consists of 14 components: physical, psychological, spiritual, financial, retroactive, aerobic, occult, biological, sociological, emotional, marital, martial, chronological, and tetrakaidecessential. these components are paradoxically arranged as both a hierarchy and a continuum. this hierarchy situates the components biological, martial, and aerobic in a trinity niether confounding the persons nor separating the substance as the apex stone of a pyramid of inferior (spatially and evaluatively) virtues, which are by row: (1) emotional (2) occult, chronological, and tetrakaidecessential (3) retroactive, financial, marital, and spiritual and (4) sociological. the continuum in contradistinction organizes all 14 components (including financial and sociological) between two points: financial and sociological. the components exist gradientially, transmuting into one another by infinitesimal increments and then undoing their transmutations as one progresses from one end of the circle to the other.

further inquiries into the nature of sex, here I reference Phineas Drummond Chapman and his Amor et Carbediensis: Summa Prognosticalia, have suggested 15th and 16th components, sexual and technological respectively, but attempts to replicate his famous experiments have ended inconclusively and his most detailed journals presumably lie with his remains in the arctic.


jesus christ, what does tetrakaidecessential even mean?
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
May 21 2007 12:50 GMT
#132
copy paste doesn't add anything to the conversation.
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LibertyTerran
Profile Joined July 2004
Vietnam711 Posts
May 21 2007 13:41 GMT
#133
The only reason that you cannot conduct sexual activities with somebody is due to the fact that you do not find that person sexually attracted to you (This statement excludes the assumption that you being gay or sexually impotent). And if that person is not sexually attractive to you, tell me how the fuck you call her your true love ???! (she's more likely your idol then, but hell I wanna fuck Jenifer Hawkin all the time ) ).



if it aint broke, dont fix it
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-21 21:00:54
May 21 2007 20:54 GMT
#134
The only reason that you cannot conduct sexual activities with somebody is due to the fact that you do not find that person sexually attracted to you


If that were true most of the world must be quite unreasonable or quite ugly.

sex consists of 14 components: physical, psychological, spiritual, financial, retroactive, aerobic, occult, biological, sociological, emotional, marital, martial, chronological, and tetrakaidecessential.


I would like to request an explication of these 14 components and then perhaps I can justify them as belonging to a reasonable hierarchy of thought. Although I suppose I might be repaid for the crime of having bothered to categorize anything in the first place. Such is the inadequacy of human thought that we need categories to shortcut our reasonings

The world of 19th century French movies and novels is a very narrow window into a very narrow world. I would argue that the underachieving have always sought to drown their sorrows in drink and strive for the quick lay over everlasting love. Menial existence has been the reality for the vast majority of history\'s subjects, not just those depressed by society today. The difference today would be the much greater accessibility of those baser influences, and the earlier age in which people are spoiled to their ease.


Depends on when and where you are speaking of. In antiquity, even sophisticated people saw sex as an indulgent and shameless affair. In the middle ages, the dogmas of Christianity I can well imagine (for I do not know anything of the matter directly) gave sexuality a transcendential meaning. Of course, you will find variable meanings of sex (or non-meanings) for Stendhal, Jane Austen, Milton and Oscar Wilde, dependent on time, space, religion, or character.

But on the subject of menial existence, what I suggest is not the object state of affairs, but the mental state of affairs which is more real. This is a long argument which should not be explicated here, but in short: The democratic society which we live in today gives to every individual a sense of self-importance independent from any reference to higher authorities. At the same time, this independence uproots him from the clearly defined avenues of moral, intellectual or social standards of excellence which guided the aristocratic society. A servant in the aristocratic society did not aspire to be an aristocrat, but to excell in his occupation and earn honours worthy of his occupation from his patron. The democratic man, who is taught that he \"can be anything he wants to be as long as he puts his mind to it\" attempts through intellect, bureaucracy, wealth, political power or even sexual prowess to obtain a kind of ascendant social status for himself which would place him above the other democratic men into a sort of modern aristocracy. However, the appeal of this kind of self-indulgence is diminishing. Because a uniform system of honour, virtue, vice and dishonour no longer exists among our uprooted \"aristocrats\" and opinion-makers, this prospect of excellence, without the reinforcement of society, becomes less appealing to the modern mind. The medieval peasant could not understand the Latin which in which monastics conversed, but they did not resent it, mock it, nor were they envious (that most modern of sins.) Furthermore they were proud if they could speak some bad Latin, but they were not proud to be able to indulge in vulgar pleasures. Therefore although similar acts perpetrate themselves through human history, their meanings, and it\'s meaning which largely influences the aspiration of people, are different.

On a personal level I subscribe to the ideal of what may be called the bourgeois interlude in the history of democratic nations. That is, a specimen of middle-classed citizenry which admires aristocratic values, but applied in a broad-minded sense. Is it narrow? Even if I were uncritical of any given epoch, it would be no narrower than people who do not consider epochs other than their own.

My stark opposite I suppose, would be cpt_obvious.
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
May 22 2007 03:14 GMT
#135
On May 22 2007 05:54 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
sex consists of 14 components: physical, psychological, spiritual, financial, retroactive, aerobic, occult, biological, sociological, emotional, marital, martial, chronological, and tetrakaidecessential.


I would like to request an explication of these 14 components and then perhaps I can justify them as belonging to a reasonable hierarchy of thought. Although I suppose I might be repaid for the crime of having bothered to categorize anything in the first place. Such is the inadequacy of human thought that we need categories to shortcut our reasonings


well you can't deny that sex has an aerobic component i don't think, unless you have sex at a very controlled pace and even then the aerobic component does not cease to exist it simply operates at a level beneath the radar. and maybe sex has an anaerobic component too because I should take this up with Drummond Chapman but, depending on whether you like french maids who act as yoru secretary or librarian and like it rough, you definitely might expend enegery in the manner of a sprinter or wrestler or even discuss thrower. so maybe that component should be expanded based on different metabolic pathways and we could have a glycolysis and an oxidative phosphorylization and pentane magnificilliary et. al. component etc. etc. so you are right that aerobic does not work equal to the multiplicity of experience you are right.

but aerobic must differ from hormonal (which in my explication gets subsumed under the physical and the psychological) because i don't know what dehydroepiandrosterone has to do with a bracing little romp for the cardiovascular system or how either play into vasocongestion but I dunno maybe they are all the same thing. And anyway hormones almost certainly effect imaginations so somehow and i don't know if it has ever happened before but the portal between physical and imaginative (here subsumed under pyschological, occult, and spiritual) has been crossed and i dont know what to do about it because it fucks with my categories.

and we all know that categories are useful to think with. like i like the word green because i know what that word means and i can use it to describe things like lights and certain plants and envy or growth on easter and snot. and so if it describes certain things even if it doesn't really describe them all the way or even in a way that is very much useful for doing anything but distinguishing them from something which is obviously a different place in the spectrum from it, it still has to be a thing. and other things are either in that thing or out of it. or they either have it in them or they don't. and so it is a category and it is useful. and it is not a description which is just stopgap. and cant be really serious.

and this one guy i know he is in true love with this other guy but their dog is in sexual desire because all it does is hump legs. but every once in a while the guys stop true loving and they hump but then they get back to true loving. and they also want to reinvent the vocabulary of metaphor for use in lyric poetry and they want to make a meter which is at once normative and true to the rhythm of contemporary english but every once in a while they abandon human pursuits and eat like animals because hey everyone has got to eat and they vacillate between human and animal kingdoms because hey everyone has got to eat.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 22 2007 03:16 GMT
#136
On May 21 2007 16:04 MyLostTemple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2007 05:32 Rekrul wrote:
you're not supposed to have sex with your family, don't worry it's normal


i laughed so hard at this i spilled my cherios and milk all overmyself.


fuck you
why so 진지해?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-22 03:22:19
May 22 2007 03:21 GMT
#137
On May 21 2007 21:07 tinman wrote:
sex does not consist of a physical and imaginative component that is wrong thinking.

sex consists of 14 components: physical, psychological, spiritual, financial, retroactive, aerobic, occult, biological, sociological, emotional, marital, martial, chronological, and tetrakaidecessential. these components are paradoxically arranged as both a hierarchy and a continuum. this hierarchy situates the components biological, martial, and aerobic in a trinity niether confounding the persons nor separating the substance as the apex stone of a pyramid of inferior (spatially and evaluatively) virtues, which are by row: (1) emotional (2) occult, chronological, and tetrakaidecessential (3) retroactive, financial, marital, and spiritual and (4) sociological. the continuum in contradistinction organizes all 14 components (including financial and sociological) between two points: financial and sociological. the components exist gradientially, transmuting into one another by infinitesimal increments and then undoing their transmutations as one progresses from one end of the circle to the other.

further inquiries into the nature of sex, here I reference Phineas Drummond Chapman and his Amor et Carbediensis: Summa Prognosticalia, have suggested 15th and 16th components, sexual and technological respectively, but attempts to replicate his famous experiments have ended inconclusively and his most detailed journals presumably lie with his remains in the arctic.
ROFLMAO


moar!

on second thought, no moar
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3975 Posts
May 22 2007 03:25 GMT
#138
I fap a lot less when I'm in love. When I was younger (16) I went from everyday to nothing for 2-3 weeks once. And when I do, i don't think about that girl (well, not about having sex with her).
I guess it's not abnormal. Just like the way you eat less when you're in love.

Oh and moltke, you're a great guy, but sometimes i get tired of your predictable opinions. It's almost as if you're trying to be like that more than you really are.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
May 22 2007 03:26 GMT
#139
I always cringe at threads like these; oh well, at least it's not like a philosophical thread ^_^
^-^
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
May 22 2007 03:46 GMT
#140
and this one time this girl and i took off our clothes (or most of them i think i still had my socks on and she had jewelry which may not count as clothes but it was pretty thick and also a skirt) but i dunno if we had sex per se because of considerations of instrumentation. so i dunno why she was pissed at me maybe we did have sex. and sometimes its hard to tell what you mean when you say that you have sex and that there are different components to it because what counts as sex which is composed of 14 components and an apocryphal 15th and 16th.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
cxz4sho
Profile Joined May 2007
United States132 Posts
May 22 2007 13:31 GMT
#141
The people who wrote the wedding vows had a pretty good idea of what true love is.

True love is when you're both old and ugly and barely able to support yourselves, much less contribute to society. You may still like each other, or you may hate each other. But in the end, you're still together, "for better or for worse".
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9616 Posts
May 22 2007 13:38 GMT
#142
"In the beginning love is only a noun, as time goes on, it becomes a verb."
is what you're getting at. Thats a quote originally from a highschool teacher of mine :X
cxz4sho
Profile Joined May 2007
United States132 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-22 14:15:36
May 22 2007 14:15 GMT
#143
Right, and you just had to one-up me by putting it more succinctly? Your high school teacher probably had a lot of time to think about how to make himself more quotable with all that off-time he had in the summers.

Yes I am bitter.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9616 Posts
May 22 2007 14:35 GMT
#144
drugs will help take the edge off
cxz4sho
Profile Joined May 2007
United States132 Posts
May 22 2007 14:39 GMT
#145
Yes but only temporarily. "How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives."

Paraphrase that.
Dr_Protoss
Profile Joined April 2007
Korea (South)14 Posts
May 22 2007 16:28 GMT
#146
Hm...
Absolutely it's not because you are an asian.
Cuz I always wanna make love with my beloved girl, although I'm an asian.

I guess you haven't experienced sex with your truly beloved girl.
If you experience it, you would realize sex with the beloved girl is very different from that with other girls.
And you wouldn't worry about your lack of sexual desire to your beloved.
The Hero Returns~
HungerForMore
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan420 Posts
May 22 2007 18:59 GMT
#147
When is this thread gonna be closed?
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