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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
October 21 2013 23:43 GMT
#821
Still don't understand letting Brunner walk
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 21 2013 23:44 GMT
#822
On October 22 2013 08:43 QuanticHawk wrote:
Still don't understand letting Brunner walk

Why pay someone 2.5 million when you can pay a 40 year old 5 million. Thats the Ken Holland way! C.f. Samuelson, Bertuzi, Cleary after Philly almost ate his ridiculous contract.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 21 2013 23:46 GMT
#823
On October 22 2013 08:33 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Part of the Wings identity since the Bowman days are those old players they bring in to win a cup. It has worked decently imo...

Im pretty sure that Holland knows the weaknesses to his team. Its just getting harder and harder to find top talent while drafting in the 20 to 30 spots.

Its unclear to me that he knows the weakness of the team. Otherwise he would have gone out and tried to find defensemen for the last 4 years not signing Cleary/Samuelson/Alfredson to contracts that are unneeded.
For the record the Red Wings AHL team is pretty good, and the young guys on it could play but Babcock hates foreigners now for some reason and Holland doesnt want young players playing for him.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
October 22 2013 00:03 GMT
#824
I feel like the Wings have been on a slow slide for the last 3 years or so. Granted, replacing someone like Lidstrom is a ridiculous task, but it seems like they're due for a real rebuild rather than throwing in old dudes to plug holes while Datsyuk and Zetterberg are still able-bodied.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 22 2013 00:04 GMT
#825
Ken Holland is hoping he can draft another Datsyuk in the 9th round again or something. I dont understand their plan at all. Unless the leadership is so delusional that they really thought the team they had was 1 game away from winning the Cup. And if thats the case, then just like a lot of squads until the top is purged nothing can be done.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 22 2013 03:11 GMT
#826
The Avs keep getting the job done. Joy to watch and I'm glad they're back.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 22 2013 03:20 GMT
#827
On October 22 2013 12:11 StarStruck wrote:
The Avs keep getting the job done. Joy to watch and I'm glad they're back.

I don't think that their play is sustainable. Way too reliant on goaltending.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 22 2013 05:10 GMT
#828
Ya I agree. Does anyone believe that Varlamov is a 970 goalie in an 82 game season?
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 22 2013 05:22 GMT
#829
On October 22 2013 14:10 Sub40APM wrote:
Ya I agree. Does anyone believe that Varlamov is a 970 goalie in an 82 game season?

Noone is a 970 goalie over 82. Varlamov as a 945 Goalie is reasonable though. Same with Giggy at that level.

If I was an Av's fan though I'd very quickly hope this last game is forgotten by everyone in front of the crease. Too many penalties and it felt like Pit had the puck 80% of the game. 7/7 PK is a bright spot though.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 22 2013 05:40 GMT
#830
Did anyone think Sergei Bobrovsky would do what he did with the Blue Jackets last year? Goalies are allowed to have some stand-out performances.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 06:07:40
October 22 2013 05:58 GMT
#831
Oilers might be making a big deal here right away. Some fishy signs:

1) We just traded Mike Brown, a Player MacT and Eakins adore for a pick giving us only 48 contracts for seemingly no reason. He had been playing well even.
2) Eberle has missed practice for two day straight for unkown reasons.
3) We have a ton of forwards injured... Smyth, Hall, Joensuu from last game. Only called up Tyler Pitlick...
4) Oilers just called up D Taylor Fedun despite having 7 healthy D on the roster (Grebeshkov, Ference, Schultzx2, Smid, Petry, Belov)
5) We play tomorrow
6) All our media guys just buzzing on twitter right now. Just odd.

If there is smoke?
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 22 2013 06:14 GMT
#832
Oh my god Ryan Miller and Christian Erhoff for Yakupov and Eberle is happening! (just kidding)
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 22 2013 06:15 GMT
#833
On October 22 2013 14:40 StarStruck wrote:
Did anyone think Sergei Bobrovsky would do what he did with the Blue Jackets last year? Goalies are allowed to have some stand-out performances.

not exactly but in a shorter season weird things happen. just like some goalies randomly get hot in the playoffs and for the rest of their careers they are trash, right, conn smythe winner cam ward?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 22 2013 06:19 GMT
#834
On October 22 2013 15:14 Sub40APM wrote:
Oh my god Ryan Miller and Christian Erhoff for Yakupov and Eberle is happening! (just kidding)


I dont think I'd like that deal. Ugh.

If Yak isn't going to get 1st overall talent value (Ie, Erik Johnson value at minimum[Chris Stewart, Kevin Shattenkirk, Ty Rattie]) we better not move him. It not worth it. He has 50 goal game changing potential.

That being said, I could see a valuable piece like Smid/Eberle/Hemsky moving out and us getting a goaltender and some forward size. Maybe a Tootoo or a Matthias
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 22 2013 06:42 GMT
#835
On October 22 2013 14:58 iCanada wrote:
Oilers might be making a big deal here right away. Some fishy signs:

1) We just traded Mike Brown, a Player MacT and Eakins adore for a pick giving us only 48 contracts for seemingly no reason. He had been playing well even.
2) Eberle has missed practice for two day straight for unkown reasons.
3) We have a ton of forwards injured... Smyth, Hall, Joensuu from last game. Only called up Tyler Pitlick...
4) Oilers just called up D Taylor Fedun despite having 7 healthy D on the roster (Grebeshkov, Ference, Schultzx2, Smid, Petry, Belov)
5) We play tomorrow
6) All our media guys just buzzing on twitter right now. Just odd.

If there is smoke?


Oiler moves over the last 24h look weird that is for sure. Would be nice if a big trade for a goalie was in the pipe. The forward call up is to replace hall. All the other guys have dudes covering their roster spots already with the team.

Speaking of covered roster spots, is their any way we can send Arcobello back to OKC after what he's done? He has been quite good for us and I think Gagner may have to settle for 3rd line time when he returns.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 22 2013 06:48 GMT
#836
On October 22 2013 15:42 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 14:58 iCanada wrote:
Oilers might be making a big deal here right away. Some fishy signs:

1) We just traded Mike Brown, a Player MacT and Eakins adore for a pick giving us only 48 contracts for seemingly no reason. He had been playing well even.
2) Eberle has missed practice for two day straight for unkown reasons.
3) We have a ton of forwards injured... Smyth, Hall, Joensuu from last game. Only called up Tyler Pitlick...
4) Oilers just called up D Taylor Fedun despite having 7 healthy D on the roster (Grebeshkov, Ference, Schultzx2, Smid, Petry, Belov)
5) We play tomorrow
6) All our media guys just buzzing on twitter right now. Just odd.

If there is smoke?


Oiler moves over the last 24h look weird that is for sure. Would be nice if a big trade for a goalie was in the pipe. The forward call up is to replace hall. All the other guys have dudes covering their roster spots already with the team.

Speaking of covered roster spots, is their any way we can send Arcobello back to OKC after what he's done? He has been quite good for us and I think Gagner may have to settle for 3rd line time when he returns.


If Arco keeps playing this well, I think we could sell him similar to Canacher value.

ppg OP.
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
October 22 2013 08:16 GMT
#837
Goalies don't sit at .945 save percentage. Tim Thomas' record-setting year in 2010-2011 had him at .938.

Also, if EDM can trade Arcobello as part of a package for a top d-man, why not! But I doubt they get more than a #4 dman for just him.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 22 2013 12:57 GMT
#838
On October 22 2013 14:22 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 14:10 Sub40APM wrote:
Ya I agree. Does anyone believe that Varlamov is a 970 goalie in an 82 game season?

Noone is a 970 goalie over 82. Varlamov as a 945 Goalie is reasonable though. Same with Giggy at that level.

If I was an Av's fan though I'd very quickly hope this last game is forgotten by everyone in front of the crease. Too many penalties and it felt like Pit had the puck 80% of the game. 7/7 PK is a bright spot though.


It's reasonable for Varlamov, who's never had great stats over a full season, to set the record for save percentage by a significant margin...?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 22 2013 14:02 GMT
#839
On October 22 2013 15:15 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 14:40 StarStruck wrote:
Did anyone think Sergei Bobrovsky would do what he did with the Blue Jackets last year? Goalies are allowed to have some stand-out performances.

not exactly but in a shorter season weird things happen. just like some goalies randomly get hot in the playoffs and for the rest of their careers they are trash, right, conn smythe winner cam ward?


Oh that happens all the time man. Lots of goalies get paid for that shit.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:07:36
October 22 2013 14:55 GMT
#840
On October 22 2013 14:58 iCanada wrote:
Oilers might be making a big deal here right away. Some fishy signs:
2) Eberle has missed practice for two day straight for unkown reasons.


He's been (apparently) resting an injured back?

Trading Eberle would be awful. So awful. He's constantly mentioned in trade rumours over the other young talent on the team and all I can guess is that it's because of his lower draft-pedigree. So he didn't go first overall, whatever. That doesn't change the fact that he has (perhaps arguably) been the Oilers best and most consistent forward so far this season. Despite the talent on offense, he's one of the few guys that can reliably finish a play.

If he gets traded, I'm going to drink a lot.

edit: And why is everything still about a "top" goalie? Teams don't give those up cheap and I can't see how it's worth it on the Oilers end. Plus, Dubnyk has been wonderful in his last few starts and appears to be returning to his previous standard (which is above average, if not sensational - which is good enough). Or are we still judging him on 3 games rather than the previous 100 or so?
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