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JKM
Denmark419 Posts
Meh, doesn't really change the level of cruelty much being 7k or 42.5k camps. I suppose it's for the better getting a real overview of what happened, as it will make a more convincing case against retards claiming holocaust didn't happen. Outside of that I don't see this used for anything good. It happened 60 years ago and whoever was not brought to justice back then is most likely dead by old age by now. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Cratosch
Germany8 Posts
I know as a fact that on the farm of my grandparents four prisoners of war had to work on the fields - as most able German men were busy fighting the war. (As a matter of fact, my grandfather himself was imprisoned in Russia at the same time - and for two more years after the war.) Those POW's were not imprisoned nor were they under constant supervision. They were treated just like any other farmhand, except that they were not payed of course. I assume, my grandparents farm and all the other farms were each counted as a separate Nazi ghetto by the people compiling this report... | ||
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ihOpe
192 Posts
In my opinion, what's done is done. Just because we find out that the Nazi's killed a million or 5 million more jews, does that really change anything? | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:16 Noonius wrote: is it wrong of me not to actually care? And I really don't care about something that happened odd 70 years ago. Mainly because it's constantly being brought up, probably just to freshen our memories and milk it for the guilt. No one really talks about the purges of Stalin to the same extent and the millions who died in gulags. Hell, my grandparents were sent to a gulag So, you don't care about your grandparents nor about the sovereignity of Estonia? | ||
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ihOpe
192 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:26 Kukaracha wrote: So, you don't care about your grandparents nor about the sovereignity of Estonia? hes saying why are people making such a big deal of the holocaust when stalin killed more people than died in the holocaust | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:13 JKM wrote: I was alright about the holocaust when I thought it was only 7000 camps, but 42500 is seriously not okay! Meh, doesn't really change the level of cruelty much being 7k or 42.5k camps. I suppose it's for the better getting a real overview of what happened, as it will make a more convincing case against retards claiming holocaust didn't happen. Outside of that I don't see this used for anything good. It happened 60 years ago and whoever was not brought to justice back then is most likely dead by old age by now. You were alright at 6 million? Dumb statement is dumb | ||
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yB.TeH
Germany415 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:31 Hitch-22 wrote: You were alright at 6 million? Dumb statement is dumb genius | ||
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Arkless
Canada1547 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:16 Noonius wrote: is it wrong of me not to actually care? And I really don't care about something that happened odd 70 years ago. Mainly because it's constantly being brought up, probably just to freshen our memories and milk it for the guilt. No one really talks about the purges of Stalin to the same extent and the millions who died in gulags. Hell, my grandparents were sent to a gulag Or the decimation of the natives, the reign of Mao Zedong alone killed 7x that of the holocaust but none of it gets discussed. It still surprises me the US celebrates columbus day. That guy was a total dick. | ||
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Lockitupv2
United States496 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:35 Lockitupv2 wrote: People still care about the holocaust? The 6 million number is greatly exaggerated. And just when exactly should we stop caring about the worst genocide in the history of mankind? | ||
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epidGoaty
United States219 Posts
On March 03 2013 20:02 fartosis77 wrote: Oh well. We stomped the Indians pretty hard and no one seems to give a shit about that anymore. Give it time and it'll be forgotten, just like any other cruelties us humans have caused throughout history. RIP in piece~ Nice read though. I now know there were more camps than originally thought. This really puts things into perspective. There is a difference between war and genocide. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:36 LuckyFool wrote: And just when exactly should we stop caring about the worst genocide in the history of mankind? We stopped caring many years ago about Mao. | ||
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Ethi
Germany275 Posts
Did they keep a differentation between the holocaust and prisoner-of-war issues? | ||
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EtherealBlade
660 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:36 LuckyFool wrote: And just when exactly should we stop caring about the worst genocide in the history of mankind? It was not the worst genocide in the history of all mankind. It was the worst genocide for a certain group. If the rest don't care, don't flood them with information about it. | ||
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epidGoaty
United States219 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:26 Kukaracha wrote: So, you don't care about your grandparents nor about the sovereignity of Estonia? I think he's thinking along the same terms of how slavery/racism is. Always being brought up and guilt is supposed to make a difference somehow. His reaction is that of forgive and forget, or rather, just forget. It's ok for him to ignore it, I mean he wasn't there doling the stuff and isn't directly affected by what happened. Doesn't make him less human. | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:40 EtherealBlade wrote: It was not the worst genocide in the history of all mankind. It was the worst genocide for a certain group. If the rest don't care, don't flood them with information about it. It's not even close to the worst genoicide in all of mankind lol | ||
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Sjokola
Netherlands800 Posts
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
Either way, an interesting increase. I'll have to look up this study and see the criteria they were using. Note to everyone going, "It's so much worse than we thought!" no it's not. It simply suggests the sort of logistics involved in organizing the operation. It's an ornamental fact to the same number of human deaths and the same level of human suffering. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On March 04 2013 00:31 iheartEDM wrote: hes saying why are people making such a big deal of the holocaust when stalin killed more people than died in the holocaust He started by saying he did not care. In the end, he replied to himself : just like him, most people care only about themselves, and about their own history. Actually, no, cross that: most people only care about the present, their own present. Outside of the european sphere, people don't care as much about the Holocaust. Chinese people are obsessed with Nankin, native Americans are obssessed with the Trail of Tears. Because, just like Noonius, egocentrism and ethnocentrism are the ruling trends. It's also weird to say that he doesn't care about something that happened 70 years ago, and then say that he cares about Stalin's purges. The trials of Moscow were held 77 years ago! By Noonius' own standards, he shouldn't care, nor should he care about what his grandparents went through, and nor should I. Why Israël? Why Palestine? Why Tchetchenia? Why Kosovo? Why Afghanistan? Because of what happened a long time ago, because of things most onlookers don't care about, too busy playing games and going about their innocent lives. | ||
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