EPTOn June 08 2016 10:44 Doodsmack wrote:
The "lol your psychology" argument is especially rich. I'm just glad you are apparently not a US citizen and won't be able to vote for Trump.
It's interesting that the most prominent Trump apologists in this thread do not appear to be from the US. It seems to me a lot of people who will be voting for Trump in the US don't want to say it out loud...even via their online usernames (and it's not just this site).
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On June 08 2016 10:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm not a Trump apologist I firmly disagree with his stance on abortion and there's no way around it I'm pro-choice and I think he's wrong on that issue.
You fanatic nevertrumper's are just impossible to talk to you've made up your mind and won't see it any other way.
You refuse to put yourselves in this man's shoes as if he's just a normal person and try to see it from his perspective because you want to believe in the narrative you've been babyfed and questioning it would be too straining of you. I understand some people just don't' do cognitive dissonance well.
On June 08 2016 10:32 Doodsmack wrote:
That wasn't responsive to what I said. You Trump apologists are so averse to admitting that his stated reasoning does not depend on the involvement by the judge in various groups. It is just,
1. He's "a Mexican"
2. Trump's building a wall
3. Therefore, he's biased
On June 08 2016 10:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I don't get what is so hard about stepping inside someone's shoes to try to see it from their perspective before you condemn them one of the worst labels you can be attributed with in western society
On June 08 2016 10:26 Doodsmack wrote:
lol @ you clinging to the claim Trump's reasoning depends on the judge's group involvement. Why are you averse to admit that's not the case?
On June 08 2016 10:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You're ignoring the relevance of what it means.
Before that quote even he stated how the judge is a part of pro-mexican groups.
The judge has a stake in the outcome of the case. The judge even has a stake in the case remaining open.
This is because of the judge's identity and values.
It's not fucking racist to point out a fact jesus christ PC has gone too far.
On June 08 2016 10:03 kwizach wrote:
Sorry, you can't get out of this one.
4:59 - Jake Tapper: "But I don't care if you criticize him. That's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying is -- if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job."
5:07 - Trump: "I think that's why he's doing it."
5:08 - Jake Tapper: "But... is that..."
5:09 - Trump: "I think that's why he's doing it."
Trump's explanation is that the judge's "race", the fact that he is "Mexican", is why (Trump thinks) he is bias against him. End of story.
On June 08 2016 09:56 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I watched the entire video.
This reporter is such a shill how are you so oblivious to what he's playing at? He's trying so hard to play the politically correct bullshit card on Trump here.
Yes those are his words. Those are the rational explanation I explained before and I hadn't even watched the video.
He believes the judge has unfairly treated this case. The judge happens to be part of pro-mexican organizations and Mexico stands to inversely benefit from the success of Trump's candidacy.
Therefore, it follows that this judge stands to benefit should Trump's candidacy go poorly.
Therefore, the judge is not impartial. The judge has a stake in the case.
He argued that is why he is treating him unfairly in the case.
Thank you for linking the video now I know you're all throwing a fit over nothing.
On June 08 2016 09:38 kwizach wrote:
You are outright lying at this point. All I did was report what Trump said. I didn't present you with my interpretation of his reasoning, I presented you with his own explanation of the reason why the judge was biased. Let's prove it to you factually, by looking at his interview with Jake Tapper:
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If you want a smoking gun quote you cannot possibly escape, go to 4:59 in the video, and listen to the following exchange (which comes after Trump complaining he's being treated unfairly):
4:59 - Jake Tapper: "But I don't care if you criticize him. That's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying is -- if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job."
5:07 - Trump: "I think that's why he's doing it."
5:08 - Jake Tapper: "But... is that..."
5:09 - Trump: "I think that's why he's doing it."
Not my interpretation. Trump's words. You're wrong, end of story. Trump's reasoning is exactly as I presented it:
1. The judge is "Mexican"
2. Trump supports building a wall at the border with Mexico
3. Therefore, the judge is biased against him
On June 08 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
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You have not represented facts. You have represented your interpretation of what you believe to be his positions and beliefs and views and character. They are all very absurd and difficult sells to make. You should honestly be ashamed for high-school-level gossip slander at this point.
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You have not represented facts. You have represented your interpretation of what you believe to be his positions and beliefs and views and character. They are all very absurd and difficult sells to make. You should honestly be ashamed for high-school-level gossip slander at this point.
You are outright lying at this point. All I did was report what Trump said. I didn't present you with my interpretation of his reasoning, I presented you with his own explanation of the reason why the judge was biased. Let's prove it to you factually, by looking at his interview with Jake Tapper:
+ Show Spoiler +
If you want a smoking gun quote you cannot possibly escape, go to 4:59 in the video, and listen to the following exchange (which comes after Trump complaining he's being treated unfairly):
4:59 - Jake Tapper: "But I don't care if you criticize him. That's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying is -- if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job."
5:07 - Trump: "I think that's why he's doing it."
5:08 - Jake Tapper: "But... is that..."
5:09 - Trump: "I think that's why he's doing it."
Not my interpretation. Trump's words. You're wrong, end of story. Trump's reasoning is exactly as I presented it:
1. The judge is "Mexican"
2. Trump supports building a wall at the border with Mexico
3. Therefore, the judge is biased against him
I watched the entire video.
This reporter is such a shill how are you so oblivious to what he's playing at? He's trying so hard to play the politically correct bullshit card on Trump here.
Yes those are his words. Those are the rational explanation I explained before and I hadn't even watched the video.
He believes the judge has unfairly treated this case. The judge happens to be part of pro-mexican organizations and Mexico stands to inversely benefit from the success of Trump's candidacy.
Therefore, it follows that this judge stands to benefit should Trump's candidacy go poorly.
Therefore, the judge is not impartial. The judge has a stake in the case.
He argued that is why he is treating him unfairly in the case.
Thank you for linking the video now I know you're all throwing a fit over nothing.
Sorry, you can't get out of this one.
4:59 - Jake Tapper: "But I don't care if you criticize him. That's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying is -- if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job."
5:07 - Trump: "I think that's why he's doing it."
5:08 - Jake Tapper: "But... is that..."
5:09 - Trump: "I think that's why he's doing it."
Trump's explanation is that the judge's "race", the fact that he is "Mexican", is why (Trump thinks) he is bias against him. End of story.
You're ignoring the relevance of what it means.
Before that quote even he stated how the judge is a part of pro-mexican groups.
The judge has a stake in the outcome of the case. The judge even has a stake in the case remaining open.
This is because of the judge's identity and values.
It's not fucking racist to point out a fact jesus christ PC has gone too far.
lol @ you clinging to the claim Trump's reasoning depends on the judge's group involvement. Why are you averse to admit that's not the case?
I don't get what is so hard about stepping inside someone's shoes to try to see it from their perspective before you condemn them one of the worst labels you can be attributed with in western society
That wasn't responsive to what I said. You Trump apologists are so averse to admitting that his stated reasoning does not depend on the involvement by the judge in various groups. It is just,
1. He's "a Mexican"
2. Trump's building a wall
3. Therefore, he's biased
I'm not a Trump apologist I firmly disagree with his stance on abortion and there's no way around it I'm pro-choice and I think he's wrong on that issue.
You fanatic nevertrumper's are just impossible to talk to you've made up your mind and won't see it any other way.
You refuse to put yourselves in this man's shoes as if he's just a normal person and try to see it from his perspective because you want to believe in the narrative you've been babyfed and questioning it would be too straining of you. I understand some people just don't' do cognitive dissonance well.
The "lol your psychology" argument is especially rich. I'm just glad you are apparently not a US citizen and won't be able to vote for Trump.
It's interesting that the most prominent Trump apologists in this thread do not appear to be from the US. It seems to me a lot of people who will be voting for Trump in the US don't want to say it out loud...even via their online usernames (and it's not just this site).
Jokes on you - I am, and I will be voting for Trump in the most important swing-state in the election.
And that would be because we have been violently attacked by nutjobs at rallies and slandered as 'racist/bigot/sexist' by the MSM.
