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GreenHorizons
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lastpuritan
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Horse meat was acceptable in underdeveloped countries and during war times. Many chevaliers forced to taste their ride. Even if it tastes good im not fan of it. This is harsh. On January 01 2015 00:18 oneofthem wrote: there's no animal i won't eat if cooked properly. I know meat is meat rule when it comes to the nature thing but however this still saddens me : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat Well... Pig case is like hell. I think i can slip away since i dont consume nor pig - nor sheep - only braindead cows and chickens. :D | ||
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GreenHorizons
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Scalise voted twice against making Martin Luther King, Jr. Day a state holiday in 1999 and 2004 as a state legislator. And in 1997 he voted against a bill prohibiting hate crimes based on race, class or sexual orientation, Politico reported. Source Nope not racist at all... Seriously, are there non-racist reasons to vote against observing MLK Jr. Day? | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On January 02 2015 12:47 GreenHorizons wrote: So is standing behind Scalise Republicans' way of saying they plan on winning without black voters? Source Nope not racist at all... Seriously, are there non-racist reasons to vote against observing MLK Jr. Day? Yeah, you can be against adding more and more holidays to be observed and to cost the Federal Government money by having to pay extra on those days. There's not really a point in adding a holiday for the sake of adding one. AFAIK it's a pretty artificial holiday. Let's say you help run a business. Would you be supportive of inventing a new holiday that would increase costs on the same day every year in the operation of that business, also closing some of that business' branches entirely on that day? Also the idea of a hate crime is problematic because hate crimes are usually pretty nebulously defined, giving them the potential to be used in ways they aren't intended to be used if they are interpreted a certain way. | ||
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ShadowDrgn
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GreenHorizons
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On January 02 2015 14:32 Chocolate wrote: Yeah, you can be against adding more and more holidays to be observed and to cost the Federal Government money by having to pay extra on those days. There's not really a point in adding a holiday for the sake of adding one. AFAIK it's a pretty artificial holiday. Let's say you help run a business. Would you be supportive of inventing a new holiday that would increase costs on the same day every year in the operation of that business, also closing some of that business' branches entirely on that day? Also the idea of a hate crime is problematic because hate crimes are usually pretty nebulously defined, giving them the potential to be used in ways they aren't intended to be used if they are interpreted a certain way. Reagan made it a federal holiday a long time ago? There's not really a point in adding a holiday for the sake of adding one. AFAIK it's a pretty artificial holiday. Wat? | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
I meant that it makes sense to be against making it a state holiday, I mistyped. It shuts things down and costs money. What the fuck are you going to do on MLK day anyway? It is a holiday that serves no purpose. How you can call someone who does not support the holiday a racist is beyond me. And if you think the only reason to not support hate crime laws is racism, that also indicates lazy thinking. Hate crime laws have lots of problems with them, both in the concept itself and the implementation. | ||
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IgnE
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Chocolate
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It makes sense for Christmas to be a federal/state holiday because most (?) or at least very many people in the workforce celebrate it and would want time off anyway. Who the fuck celebrates MLK day? Also, Christmas would still actually exist even if it weren't a federal/state holiday, while the only reason an MLK day exists in the first place is because some group of politicians decided it should be a holiday. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On January 02 2015 15:01 IgnE wrote: I think we should get rid of Christmas. Most people can remember Jesus without it, and it fucking shuts down nearly two weeks in late December. Just a complete waste of time and money. That's fine, but I celebrate Saturnalia around that time of year so I'll be taking the time off anyways  | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24512 Posts
On January 02 2015 15:05 Chocolate wrote: That's a strawman and a shitty comparison. It makes sense for Christmas to be a federal/state holiday because most (?) or at least very many people in the workforce celebrate it and would want time off anyway. Who the fuck celebrates MLK day? Also, Christmas would still actually exist even if it weren't a federal/state holiday, while the only reason an MLK day exists in the first place is because some group of politicians decided it should be a holiday. How about Columbus Day? That holiday literally makes no sense at all. | ||
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IgnE
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On January 02 2015 15:05 Chocolate wrote: That's a strawman and a shitty comparison. It makes sense for Christmas to be a federal/state holiday because most (?) or at least very many people in the workforce celebrate it and would want time off anyway. Who the fuck celebrates MLK day? Also, Christmas would still actually exist even if it weren't a federal/state holiday, while the only reason an MLK day exists in the first place is because some group of politicians decided it should be a holiday. Jesus Fucking Christ can we stop throwing around the term "straw man?" You aren't even using it properly. | ||
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Livelovedie
United States492 Posts
On January 02 2015 15:31 GreenHorizons wrote: How about Columbus Day? That holiday literally makes no sense at all. I don't think most people hold a particular attachment to Columbus day either. I would much rather Halloween and Valentine's Day become federal holidays over Columbus day and MLK or Presidents' Day, respectively. | ||
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IgnE
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Livelovedie
United States492 Posts
On January 02 2015 15:36 IgnE wrote: Valentine's day is more of a sham than most holidays. Are you serious? How so? With Valentine's Day as a holiday couples/families could take the idea further and do day outings as well. | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On January 02 2015 15:31 GreenHorizons wrote: How about Columbus Day? That holiday literally makes no sense at all. I agree, it also makes sense. On January 02 2015 15:32 IgnE wrote: Jesus Fucking Christ can we stop throwing around the term "straw man?" You aren't even using it properly. You clearly were mocking my opinion by writing a caricature of it, that's like the definition of a straw man. On January 02 2015 15:38 Livelovedie wrote: How so? With Valentine's Day as a holiday couples/families could take the idea further and do day outings as well. Valentine's day exists mostly for the same reason that diamonds are a thing. People have some sort of tradition (wedding rings, the original Valentine's day) -> companies market things by appealing to your love of your partner (if you loved your partner, you'd get them this!) -> it is now expected that you spend money to show that you love your partner, or else you're tacky. | ||
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Livelovedie
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
On January 02 2015 15:48 Chocolate wrote: You clearly were mocking my opinion by writing a caricature of it, that's like the definition of a straw man. Nope. It's not. There's an epidemic of boys who called straw man in this thread. | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On January 02 2015 15:58 IgnE wrote: Nope. It's not. There's an epidemic of boys who called straw man in this thread. "The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument: Person 1 asserts proposition X. Person 2 argues against a false but superficially similar proposition Y, as if that were an argument against X." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man Actually fuck it it doesn't matter. | ||
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IgnE
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