EPTNBA Playoffs 2012 - Page 95
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XoXiDe
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Scarecrow
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VENDIZ
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CosmicSpiral
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9173 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:25 CosmicSpiral wrote: Why don't other teams try to emulate the Spurs? They're as close to perfect basketball as you can get. It's hard to find superstars as unselfish as parker + duncan. The whole team just trusts each other and the system Pop preaches and it takes a long time to build a culture like this. | ||
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Ace
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:25 CosmicSpiral wrote: Why don't other teams try to emulate the Spurs? They're as close to perfect basketball as you can get. Just think of how experienced this team is. The core of this group has been in so many playoffs, is so versatile, and has played so long together. I don't think most coaches can command the respect of a team like Pop can either. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:28 Whatson wrote: Just think of how experienced this team is. The core of this group has been in so many playoffs, is so versatile, and has played so long together. I don't think most coaches can command the respect of a team like Pop can either. I dont think most coaches can coach like Pop can. He is brilliant. He was over shadowed by Phil Jackson, every coach was really. But Pop is truly one of the best ever. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9173 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:32 jmbthirteen wrote: I dont think most coaches can coach like Pop can. He is brilliant. He was over shadowed by Phil Jackson, every coach was really. But Pop is truly one of the best ever. Agreed, the squad was nothing special outside the big 3 coming into this season, Pop and his system just makes players that would be mediocre in other teams shine for the spurs | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:28 Whatson wrote: Just think of how experienced this team is. The core of this group has been in so many playoffs, is so versatile, and has played so long together. I don't think most coaches can command the respect of a team like Pop can either. Also it's very easy to look "close to perfect" when you're on a run with so many contributing players. The Bulls from 96-98 were probably the most stacked team of the post 80s era and they would absolutely make this Spurs team look amateurs. On May 16 2012 12:33 Scarecrow wrote: Agreed, the squad was nothing special outside the big 3 coming into this season, Pop and his system just makes players that would be mediocre in other teams shine for the spurs I think you're overrating Pop now. Look, they got Diaw from Charlotte and Jackson from Milwaukee as trade fodder. Think about how that looks when these guys dont even have to start. They just really have more good players than everyone else. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9173 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:33 Ace wrote: I think you're overrating Pop now. Look, they got Diaw from Charlotte and Jackson from Milwaukee as trade fodder. Think about how that looks when these guys dont even have to start. They just really have more good players than everyone else. You just sound bitter, diaw and jackson weren't manageable in those teams and could've gone anywhere. Spurs were still probably #1 in the West without these pickups and that was done with Ginobili out for much of the season. The only one to end a Spurs win streak this season has been Pop. | ||
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smekz
Portugal503 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:44 Scarecrow wrote: You just sound bitter, diaw and jackson weren't manageable in those teams and could've gone anywhere. Spurs were still probably #1 in the West without these pickups and that was done with Ginobili out for much of the season. The only one to end a Spurs win streak this season has been Pop. word dude was about to post something like this.. so much bitterness ;_; | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Diaw and Jackson are above average starters coming off the bench. That is the #1 reason for their success right now. PoP has had lesser rosters with the same system do well in the regular season and get creamed in the post season. It's as simple as that. | ||
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VENDIZ
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CosmicSpiral
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:59 CosmicSpiral wrote: So it's a combination of roster and experience as a team. How long would it take for the average NBA roster to even begin to copy what the Spurs are doing (assuming they had the talent in the first place)? OKC is very close but what it really takes is luck in the draft to get the right players as a core. OKC has Durant but what pushed them over the edge is they have Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka all through being "bad" for a number of years. Likewise, San Antonio got Duncan the year Robinson got injured, picked up TP and Manu later then just kept getting vets every year to round out their roster. The only 3 teams I've ever seen "fast track" it and almost be near title favorites for years without drafting their core are the early 2000s Pistons, the 2005 Miami Heat and the 2008 Boston Celtics. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:47 Ace wrote: Why would I be bitter when I've said all year the Spurs could win it all? Diaw and Jackson are above average starters coming off the bench. That is the #1 reason for their success right now. PoP has had lesser rosters with the same system do well in the regular season and get creamed in the post season. It's as simple as that. what year do you think it is? No way are Jackson and Diaw above average starters. Diaw has had 2 above average seasons in his entire career, the last one in 2008-2009. And Jackson hasn't been the same since he left GS. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:47 Ace wrote: Why would I be bitter when I've said all year the Spurs could win it all? I don't remember that. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=spurs&t=c&f=-1&u=ace&gb=date&d= http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12666827 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12842552 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12985949 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12986299 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13504558 Closest was that with manu out, Spurs are not a top 10 team. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On May 16 2012 12:47 Ace wrote: Why would I be bitter when I've said all year the Spurs could win it all? Diaw and Jackson are above average starters coming off the bench. That is the #1 reason for their success right now. PoP has had lesser rosters with the same system do well in the regular season and get creamed in the post season. It's as simple as that. i'd just like to point out that you lose all credibility with this statement. Who'd they face last year? Oh yeah, a blistering hot Memphis team that had all the right matchups and made every western conference playoff team shit their pants for a good three weeks. Injuries and age played a giant part in every playoff exit they've had. It's really as simple as that. | ||
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