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Like really, you get 1 point at the line instead of Durant fouling out with 4 minutes left, and you're complaining about the refs? r o f l
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On June 15 2012 12:59 Fumanchu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 12:53 ghrur wrote:On June 15 2012 12:52 Fumanchu wrote:On June 15 2012 12:47 ranshaked wrote:
man, lebron fouled him twice once on the shot and once on the rebound....Then earlier in the game they give the heat two points on a goaltend, when it was clearly a blocked shot...Sigh. Refs just stole that game from OKC You could argue that Durant had a charge with just over a minute left, and instead they called blocking foul. Refs just stole nothing. Battier was moving on the blocking foul. By the time his feet had set, Durant was already in the air. That call was fine. If anything, it was 50/50 AT BEST. That last no-call? HOLY FUCK. You can't ARGUE there was no foul. Edit to above^: actually, Battier had his feet moving. You can notice it. Like, lifted up a little bit and moving. That's not set. That's moving. I'll give you that it should have been a foul on james on the last shot. It's gotta be tough in that situation to be king-maker though. But to say that the refs cost OKC the game is an exaggeration. If OKC played in the first like they did in the second, they wouldn't have had to rely on last minute efforts.
Yeah, that was a heat of the moment post, no pun intended. They just came so close, and god, a come back would've been orgasmic.
Edit: Whoops, I fail at reading. xD
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On June 15 2012 13:02 Bonzinator wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 13:02 OreoBoi wrote:On June 15 2012 13:01 Bonzinator wrote:
I must admit, LeBron did make a foul there on KD, no doubt about it. Gah why it has to be always something god damn it. I don't think anyone is arguing he didn't foul KD, but there are plenty of calls that could have gone either way and to say 1 call stole the game is ridiculous. I always say that, but it's def ears all the time 
Meh, it's the heat, people turn off their brains when talking about the heat.
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As a neutral player in all of this. All you whining Thunder fans need to just look at the FT percentage. If I was Scott Brooks, my entire team would be shooting free throws for hours at practice to make sure that does not happen again. on another note, I just cannot fathom how a professional basketball player cannot shoot at least 80% of his free throws.
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On June 15 2012 13:03 Aerisky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 13:01 Bonzinator wrote:
I must admit, LeBron did make a foul there on KD, no doubt about it. Gah why it has to be always something god damn it. That's just how it works; sports fans usually prefer to put it on the refs rather than on their team playing poorly if the opportunity presents itself I guess? Especially in basketball when you personally feel as if you have have little reason to like or respect the other team, you'd be more inclined not to say GG on the opposing team's part. I could be wrong though.
lol you post like you don't do teh same
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On June 15 2012 13:05 Tiamat wrote:
As a neutral player in all of this. All you whining Thunder fans need to just look at the FT percentage. If I was Scott Brooks, my entire team would be shooting free throws for hours at practice to make sure that does not happen again. on another note, I just cannot fathom how a professional basketball player cannot shoot at least 80% of his free throws.
OKC def lost this game. Yes Miami played well but OKC played sooooooooooo bad for about 65% of the game.
Didn't Magic Johnson say at half that what Westbrook did in the first half was the worst performance by a PG in the finals he has ever seen?
Ya...
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On June 15 2012 13:05 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 13:03 Aerisky wrote:On June 15 2012 13:01 Bonzinator wrote:
I must admit, LeBron did make a foul there on KD, no doubt about it. Gah why it has to be always something god damn it. That's just how it works; sports fans usually prefer to put it on the refs rather than on their team playing poorly if the opportunity presents itself I guess? Especially in basketball when you personally feel as if you have have little reason to like or respect the other team, you'd be more inclined not to say GG on the opposing team's part. I could be wrong though. lol you post like you don't do teh same
Where in that did I say I don't? I had my own heat of the moment (with "no pun intended" in my post to boot) in one of the Heat v Celtics games, I forget which
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I want to bitch and moan but i can't OKC needs to play in the first quarter. OKC has been won 6 of 8 quarters going to be hard to win a ring if you are not playing the whole game.
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The refs didn't cost OKC that game. If you really think they did you're being a little too emotional.
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On June 15 2012 13:03 ghrur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 12:59 Fumanchu wrote:On June 15 2012 12:53 ghrur wrote:On June 15 2012 12:52 Fumanchu wrote:On June 15 2012 12:47 ranshaked wrote:
man, lebron fouled him twice once on the shot and once on the rebound....Then earlier in the game they give the heat two points on a goaltend, when it was clearly a blocked shot...Sigh. Refs just stole that game from OKC You could argue that Durant had a charge with just over a minute left, and instead they called blocking foul. Refs just stole nothing. Battier was moving on the blocking foul. By the time his feet had set, Durant was already in the air. That call was fine. If anything, it was 50/50 AT BEST. That last no-call? HOLY FUCK. You can't ARGUE there was no foul. Edit to above^: actually, Battier had his feet moving. You can notice it. Like, lifted up a little bit and moving. That's not set. That's moving. I'll give you that it should have been a foul on james on the last shot. It's gotta be tough in that situation to be king-maker though. But to say that the refs cost OKC the game is an exaggeration. If OKC played in the first like they did in the second, they wouldn't have had to rely on last minute efforts. Yeah, that was a heat of the moment post, no pun intended. They just came so close, and god, a come back would've been orgasmic. Also, Tien, you little hypocrite. Remember your old posts? Show nested quote +The way it's called in the NBA places too much emphasis on the feet. Battier was clearly already in position, but yeah the refs aren't gonna throw KD out on that. It still definitely shouldn't be a blocking foul. So let's see what you admit: He was in position, but his feet were moving hence the "too much emphasis on feet," but you also wrote "It still definitely shouldn't be a blocking foul", but now, it should be? Huh... I didn't know someone re-wrote history.
What are you talking about? That was 100% a charge, KD got the superstar late call from the wrong official on that. Where am I a hypocrite? When I said that there is too much emphasis on feet, that's because of the difference in the call between the NCAA and NBA levels. Look at his shoulders and upper body, he's clearly in position the whole time. On the slow-mo you can catch the feet sliding but you know the ref didn't see that.
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Yes there was a foul, but OKC fans I think you have a lot more to be worried about than that 1 blown call. They're gonna happen every game (although at a particularly unfortunate time this game) and I think that some blown calls went both ways this game. More worrying should be that weak first quarter and performance overall.
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On June 15 2012 13:10 TieN.nS) wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 13:03 ghrur wrote:On June 15 2012 12:59 Fumanchu wrote:On June 15 2012 12:53 ghrur wrote:On June 15 2012 12:52 Fumanchu wrote:On June 15 2012 12:47 ranshaked wrote:
man, lebron fouled him twice once on the shot and once on the rebound....Then earlier in the game they give the heat two points on a goaltend, when it was clearly a blocked shot...Sigh. Refs just stole that game from OKC You could argue that Durant had a charge with just over a minute left, and instead they called blocking foul. Refs just stole nothing. Battier was moving on the blocking foul. By the time his feet had set, Durant was already in the air. That call was fine. If anything, it was 50/50 AT BEST. That last no-call? HOLY FUCK. You can't ARGUE there was no foul. Edit to above^: actually, Battier had his feet moving. You can notice it. Like, lifted up a little bit and moving. That's not set. That's moving. I'll give you that it should have been a foul on james on the last shot. It's gotta be tough in that situation to be king-maker though. But to say that the refs cost OKC the game is an exaggeration. If OKC played in the first like they did in the second, they wouldn't have had to rely on last minute efforts. Yeah, that was a heat of the moment post, no pun intended. They just came so close, and god, a come back would've been orgasmic. Also, Tien, you little hypocrite. Remember your old posts? The way it's called in the NBA places too much emphasis on the feet. Battier was clearly already in position, but yeah the refs aren't gonna throw KD out on that. It still definitely shouldn't be a blocking foul. So let's see what you admit: He was in position, but his feet were moving hence the "too much emphasis on feet," but you also wrote "It still definitely shouldn't be a blocking foul", but now, it should be? Huh... I didn't know someone re-wrote history. What are you talking about? That was 100% a charge, KD got the superstar late call from the wrong official on that. Where am I a hypocrite? When I said that there is too much emphasis on feet, that's because of the difference in the call between the NCAA and NBA levels. Look at his shoulders and upper body, he's clearly in position the whole time. On the slow-mo you can catch the feet sliding but you know the ref didn't see that.
Yeah, sorry, I fail at reading. xD But still, his feet were sliding. :/ And honestly, that's what makes the call consistent in the NBA. That their feet are planted. Shane's weren't.
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On June 15 2012 13:09 RowdierBob wrote:
The refs didn't cost OKC that game. If you really think they did you're being a little too emotional.
This sums it up pretty concisely.
Also @itsmedudeman, looking at that game 6 1998 finals comes to mind as well iirc
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On June 15 2012 13:07 Aerisky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 13:05 Whatson wrote:On June 15 2012 13:03 Aerisky wrote:On June 15 2012 13:01 Bonzinator wrote:
I must admit, LeBron did make a foul there on KD, no doubt about it. Gah why it has to be always something god damn it. That's just how it works; sports fans usually prefer to put it on the refs rather than on their team playing poorly if the opportunity presents itself I guess? Especially in basketball when you personally feel as if you have have little reason to like or respect the other team, you'd be more inclined not to say GG on the opposing team's part. I could be wrong though. lol you post like you don't do teh same Where in that did I say I don't? I had my own heat of the moment (with "no pun intended" in my post to boot) in one of the Heat v Celtics games, I forget which
no, it's just the patronizing tone you use
w/e
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On June 15 2012 13:05 Tiamat wrote:
As a neutral player in all of this. All you whining Thunder fans need to just look at the FT percentage. If I was Scott Brooks, my entire team would be shooting free throws for hours at practice to make sure that does not happen again. on another note, I just cannot fathom how a professional basketball player cannot shoot at least 80% of his free throws.
80%? I can understand 65%, but 80%? I mean, the league average is 75%, why are you shocked that someone cant hit 80% when most of the league cannot hit 75%?
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On June 15 2012 13:11 ghrur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 13:10 TieN.nS) wrote:On June 15 2012 13:03 ghrur wrote:On June 15 2012 12:59 Fumanchu wrote:On June 15 2012 12:53 ghrur wrote:On June 15 2012 12:52 Fumanchu wrote:On June 15 2012 12:47 ranshaked wrote:
man, lebron fouled him twice once on the shot and once on the rebound....Then earlier in the game they give the heat two points on a goaltend, when it was clearly a blocked shot...Sigh. Refs just stole that game from OKC You could argue that Durant had a charge with just over a minute left, and instead they called blocking foul. Refs just stole nothing. Battier was moving on the blocking foul. By the time his feet had set, Durant was already in the air. That call was fine. If anything, it was 50/50 AT BEST. That last no-call? HOLY FUCK. You can't ARGUE there was no foul. Edit to above^: actually, Battier had his feet moving. You can notice it. Like, lifted up a little bit and moving. That's not set. That's moving. I'll give you that it should have been a foul on james on the last shot. It's gotta be tough in that situation to be king-maker though. But to say that the refs cost OKC the game is an exaggeration. If OKC played in the first like they did in the second, they wouldn't have had to rely on last minute efforts. Yeah, that was a heat of the moment post, no pun intended. They just came so close, and god, a come back would've been orgasmic. Also, Tien, you little hypocrite. Remember your old posts? The way it's called in the NBA places too much emphasis on the feet. Battier was clearly already in position, but yeah the refs aren't gonna throw KD out on that. It still definitely shouldn't be a blocking foul. So let's see what you admit: He was in position, but his feet were moving hence the "too much emphasis on feet," but you also wrote "It still definitely shouldn't be a blocking foul", but now, it should be? Huh... I didn't know someone re-wrote history. What are you talking about? That was 100% a charge, KD got the superstar late call from the wrong official on that. Where am I a hypocrite? When I said that there is too much emphasis on feet, that's because of the difference in the call between the NCAA and NBA levels. Look at his shoulders and upper body, he's clearly in position the whole time. On the slow-mo you can catch the feet sliding but you know the ref didn't see that. Yeah, sorry, I fail at reading. xD But still, his feet were sliding. :/
It's a BS call, but maybe strictly following the NBA rulebook it was a block. But there's no doubt in my mind even if Battier's feet were set he still wouldn't have gotten it. Them's the breaks.
On June 15 2012 13:11 Aerisky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 13:09 RowdierBob wrote:
The refs didn't cost OKC that game. If you really think they did you're being a little too emotional. This sums it up pretty concisely. Also @itsmedudeman, looking at that game 6 1998 finals comes to mind as well iirc
If the positions were reversed and KD put that ticky-tack foul on Bron in the last seconds, people would be PISSED and going on about "you can't let them win the game at the line like that" and pointing at Jordan's push-off on Bryon Russell, no doubt.
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And just for the record, i DO think that was a bogus call MJ got on Russell
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On June 15 2012 13:14 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 13:05 Tiamat wrote:
As a neutral player in all of this. All you whining Thunder fans need to just look at the FT percentage. If I was Scott Brooks, my entire team would be shooting free throws for hours at practice to make sure that does not happen again. on another note, I just cannot fathom how a professional basketball player cannot shoot at least 80% of his free throws. 80%? I can understand 65%, but 80%? I mean, the league average is 75%, why are you shocked that someone cant hit 80% when most of the league cannot hit 75%?
Probably b/c it something you been doing your entire life. They are the easiest point to get yet some many players are bad at it.
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On June 15 2012 13:12 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 13:07 Aerisky wrote:On June 15 2012 13:05 Whatson wrote:On June 15 2012 13:03 Aerisky wrote:On June 15 2012 13:01 Bonzinator wrote:
I must admit, LeBron did make a foul there on KD, no doubt about it. Gah why it has to be always something god damn it. That's just how it works; sports fans usually prefer to put it on the refs rather than on their team playing poorly if the opportunity presents itself I guess? Especially in basketball when you personally feel as if you have have little reason to like or respect the other team, you'd be more inclined not to say GG on the opposing team's part. I could be wrong though. lol you post like you don't do teh same Where in that did I say I don't? I had my own heat of the moment (with "no pun intended" in my post to boot) in one of the Heat v Celtics games, I forget which no, it's just the patronizing tone you use w/e
Sorry then, I wasn't trying to be patronizing (probably the person in here with the least right to that too lol) and I daresay there are much more patronizing people around. Sports fans encompasses myself, and I've definitely had my moments (you should see me watching tennis--in tennis it's much more friendly and WP towards opponent but I'm always steaming anyway).
Damn I'm practically sad the Heat won now with all the emotions and anger flying around  ...if I see another foul like that before a Heat victory I'll just stay away from the thread for a bit (likewise if it's the opposite I suppose so I don't end up just qqing etc)
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