EPTNaniwa did not lose an earned code S spot - Page 6
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:56 hugman wrote: If Naniwa hadn't secured a Code-S spot there'd be no need to announce that he lost it The point is to set a precedent to show that these conducts are not tolerated. | ||
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Hydrox911
United Kingdom261 Posts
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skyrunner
371 Posts
but i guess people are okay with it. | ||
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Focuspants
Canada780 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:54 HappyChris wrote: Follow the money buddy all I got to say People like you have nothing of substance to say, and drag down the general quality of threads. Please do some research, post something intelligent, at least say something funny to entertain us. Blindly arguing something because its what you 'believe' gets us nowhere. This incident in the grand scheme of things is very small. Why would the biggest SC2 organization in the east, and the biggest one in the west, risk their integrity, over some stupid drama surrounding 1 player? Especially when it would be as easy as askign any of the players involved in the exchange program whether it existed or not? This event isnt worthy of a conspiracy, and you really need to relax. | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=294713¤tpage=226#4510 | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:56 Hydrox911 wrote: There were/are posts all over MLG about how Naniwas run did indeed EARN him a spot in Code S. Look them up. And new information shows that those posts may be wrong. We just gotta wait to see more official posts. | ||
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BoggieMan
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sashamunguia
Mexico423 Posts
 we all should know by now Koreans have morals and respect as very high values, so if we do something my fellow citizen would just laugh at, and they respond harshly, we should not be surprised at all, doing so is just stupid... | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:44 MLG_Adam wrote: Slasher works for MLG in our video department. He is NOT a representative of the League. Any opinion or discussion from Slasher is solely opinion based. | ||
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mengsk83
Germany519 Posts
"At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, if we like him, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status" | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:54 Alvar wrote: Well, as soon as someone else collaborates this I'm all aboard that this is how it is. I see no reason why it couldnt be equally plausible that Slasher missunderstood something though, considering the information that was available before contradicts him somewhat. Still would make the communication between them laughable for allowing all those press releases to be released before. I agree with that. However I will choose to currently lend more plausability to Slasher than to "HappyChris" or anyone else posting here until such time as an actual MLG head says he is wrong. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4544 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:51 BoomNasty wrote: There was no exchange program at Providence. No Koreans outside hte Top 16 were given seeds into the Winner's Bracket. Please check your facts before you post stuff like htis. lol, the facts are in the links I posted, please check them yourself. | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
I'm losing more and more respect for Gomtv for every thing they do. | ||
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SuperNinja
Canada33 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:57 skyrunner wrote: It's called indian giving... but i guess people are okay with it. omg.... the posts get"better" and better.... really dude? | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:58 labbe wrote: It's so tragic that people don't realize that this is just a way for Gom to try to make this look less of a punishment than it is. First off, the result is still the same so I don't understand how it is any less of a punishment because of this. Second, why would they announce this as an afterthought? They even announced in a live broadcast that they are revoking Naniwas Code S spot. If he didn't have that spot in the first place, then why even make an announcement about it. I'm losing more and more respect for Gomtv for every thing they do. Your first point is a mere speculation with no evidence. First the result may be the same, but it makes the punishment less harsh if Naniwa didn't have the spot in the first place and was just a candidate so it is a lesser punishment. Second they announced it so that players don't fuck around in their league anymore to set a precedent. | ||
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Phobbers
773 Posts
Edit:Grammar (All nighter because of papers) >.< | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44462 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:54 Juvant wrote: The point is that they didn't take away an earned slot in the tournament, they took away an intended invite. The player failed to live up to the standards they would want of an invite, so they invited someone else. It is a rather large difference in my opinion, regardless of which side of the argument you're on. Ah, I see the difference. I think that's called being an Indian Giver (racism not intended). Giving a gift and then taking it back. I would have thought that GOM would have wanted the best players in their tournament, not caring about how good-mannered they are... but I guess that's just something I disagree with them on. It's their tournament. Although, of course, they've allowed people in the past to play in the GSL who implement plenty of BM inside the game and out. Rituals, ceremonies, mannered units and structures, etc. Naniwa isn't unique. | ||
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staavros
Netherlands32 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:50 Focuspants wrote: Ok so here is some logic for you. If you view information released by MLG as being reliable, then Slasher's (an MLG employee) twitter post can be seen as credible. The most recent information, is likely the most accurate, as they are dealing with this situation. You cant claim a source to be reliable, and then claim it isnt relaible when it disagrees with your opinion. The likely answer, is that there was a misunderstanding about Providence amongst the community, because they didnt make it commonly known, that it was no longer part of the exchange program. I have a brain, and I dont need you coming in here and trying to insult me, when you have made 3 or 4 similar posts in the multiple threads where you spell "whole", hole. I am here to show what MLG has to say about the matter, and you question my intelligence, because I post a direct source to one of its employees messages to the community. Please have a little more class. I am sorry some people do that. As I said before, that is a good thread because it focuses on this particular issue. Let's leave our naniwa opinions out of it. On your first paragraphs, though, I disagree. Obviously, a source is not reliable when it releases contradicting information. But it's not correct that the information released later is more accurate. Rules cannot be secret and revealed to the parties involved after the events are finished. Rules are always known in advance. That's why, in my opinion, any information ABOUT THE RULES, released for the first time today, is irrelevant. To believe that, I am sorry, but I REQUIRE a source that existed before the event. I think this is at least reasonable. Everybody should make a conscious and continuous effort to preserve good faith between parties of the community, simple viewers included. And today's attempt to suddenly inform us about a rule that they just forgot to include in the rulebook in the first place, does not help towards that in my opinion. | ||
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