EPTOn December 15 2011 01:35 CEPEHDREI wrote:
cause it wasnt part of the exchange program? GSL didnt send any players to providence.
cause it wasnt part of the exchange program? GSL didnt send any players to providence.
good point! O_o
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HolydaKing
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
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staavros
Netherlands32 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:35 CEPEHDREI wrote: cause it wasnt part of the exchange program? GSL didnt send any players to providence. Please, would you be so kind to provide a link with a rule that clearly says Providence is an exception to the following? "At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status." | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:35 Alvar wrote: My views? you do not even know my views, I have no idea one way or the other, but all the evidence before Slashers twitter(?) says that Naniwa recieved the seed from providence, even statements from MLG. Even the original statement from GOM said there was a seed from every pro circuit this year. Others have posted that Gom didnt send Koreans. That in itself could be the very reason this exhcnage didnt exist for this tournament. | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:39 staavros wrote: Please, would you be so kind to provide a link with a rule that clearly says Providence is an exception to the following? "At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status." As soon as you link with a rule that clearly says Providence is an exception to the following. "MLG will invite four Korean pro players to each Pro Circuit Live Competition." | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:39 staavros wrote: Please, would you be so kind to provide a link with a rule that clearly says Providence is an exception to the following? "At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status." Can you give a link from a CREDIBLE source commenting directly on this matter in the present and not the past, not using MLG sites from the PAST which have had misleading info on them before, that contradicts what Slasher said? | ||
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Jeromir
Sweden39 Posts
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zala2023
United States228 Posts
im not interested in seeing any more probe rushes in the gsl hope idra and sen represent the foreign scene better than naniwa does | ||
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Focuspants
Canada780 Posts
You are left with 2 options: 1) Believe the MLG employee, and the fact they say it wasnt prat of the exchange program, coupled with the fact that the GSL didnt send any representatives to the event. or 2) Believe a bunch of annonymous forum posters, who are using articles, that are likely wrong because of the lack of clairty with the exchange program. I choose to go with the information from the people directly involved with the companies responsible for the exchange program, rather than people looking at it from the outside. | ||
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Alvar
Sweden61 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:39 mrtomjones wrote: Others have posted that Gom didnt send Koreans. That in itself could be the very reason this exhcnage didnt exist for this tournament. You might be right about this, but you are probably just guessing. I see no reason to go with only slashers twitter as evidence over all the other statements made before. GOM might have changed their minds. I do feel the communication between MLG and GOM seem to have been horrible for all those statements to be made without any response from GOM or correction from GOM. | ||
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staavros
Netherlands32 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:40 NHY wrote: As soon as you link with a rule that clearly says Providence is an exception to the following. "MLG will invite four Korean pro players to each Pro Circuit Live Competition." I agree both are violations of the rules. Why would I try to find such a link? I also find it odd they didn't invite. So, sure, I see your point. Now, back to the code S spot matter. Is there a rule that says Providence is an exception? | ||
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Executor1
1353 Posts
Before i said i respected their decision but felt that naniwa may have kind of earned that spot. I totally think what he did was wrong, and if they were giving him that spot then all i have to say is, dont bite the hand that feeds you. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:42 Alvar wrote: You might be right about this, but you are probably just guessing. I see no reason to go with only slashers twitter as evidence over all the other statements made before. GOM might have changed their minds. I do feel the communication between MLG and GOM seem to have been horrible for all those statements to be made without any response from GOM or correction from GOM. Slasher works for MLG and although he doesn't represent them he has a heck of a lot more knowledge about their "goings on" than you, me, or anyone else posting in this thread. Until someone contradicts him from MLG or GOM I would suggest that listening to the most credible source of information is wisest. | ||
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Juvant
United States723 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:43 staavros wrote: I agree both are violations of the rules. Why would I try to find such a link? I also find it odd they didn't invite. So, sure, I see your point. Now, back to the code S spot matter. Is there a rule that says Providence is an exception? The exchange program ended in 2011 and doesn't apply to 2012. | ||
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staavros
Netherlands32 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:40 mrtomjones wrote: Can you give a link from a CREDIBLE source commenting directly on this matter in the present and not the past, not using MLG sites from the PAST which have had misleading info on them before, that contradicts what Slasher said? But rules are decided before, right? Is it correct to adapt the rules to our liking because they proved insufficient to cover cases we didn't foresee when we made the rules? | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:42 Focuspants wrote: The fact of the matter is, GSL didnt send players to Providence, and Slasher is saying that Providence wasnt involved in the exchange program. Clearly there was a lack of clarity on this issue, which is now being brought out due to this situation. You are left with 2 options: 1) Believe the MLG employee, and the fact they say it wasnt prat of the exchange program, coupled with the fact that the GSL didnt send any representatives to the event. or 2) Believe a bunch of annonymous forum posters, who are using articles, that are likely wrong because of the lack of clairty with the exchange program. I choose to go with the information from the people directly involved with the companies responsible for the exchange program, rather than people looking at it from the outside. Haha, Open you eyes. Anyone with a brain can actually see whats going on here. This hole incident is is starting to become so laughable The annonymous forum posters as you call them are just linking statement and articles from MLG own site GomTV own site and reliable and well known news site. Come on man lol | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:45 Juvant wrote: The exchange program ended in 2011 and doesn't apply to 2012. because providence happened in 2012 ....right? and it just so happens that MLG wrote 5 different articles on Naniwa winning a code S spot but nobody noticed the mistake......i dont know.. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
It was right to punish him. Could have done it in several different ways, but what they chose to do was appropriate imho. Also, since it was already announced he would give it, to me - it was as 'real' as any other code S spots. If you want to focus on 'earned' then only those going through the qualifiers in korea into code A into code S are 'earning' their spot (in addition to those already in the tournament of course). | ||
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Juvant
United States723 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:46 sekritzzz wrote: because providence happened in 2012 ....right? GSL January takes place in 2011... Right? | ||
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Daimai
Sweden762 Posts
They decided to invite Naniwa and then they pulled the invite even when Naniwa didnt break any other rules than some stupid code of honor. They dont have any grounds to pull his invite. | ||
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