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On December 15 2011 01:28 Focuspants wrote:
I dont understand what motivation Slasher would have to lie about this. I am fairly confidant he would know more about the status of the exchange program than the conspiracy theorists in this thread.
I undertstand that there are questions to clear up, and not everything is cut and dry, but to say you know more about it than the guy that works with MLG, and that he is lying, is a bit ridiculous of a response.
Conspiracy theorists? There are multiple articles linked in this very thread all saying Naniwa earned the spot. Of course this was BEFORE GSL decided to take it away. Funny how shit changes that way right?
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I am so confused now, I originally thought he earned the spot, then I was convinced he didn't..now I don't know what to think.
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On December 15 2011 01:26 Alvar wrote:
What does Slasher have to do with this? He probably just missunderstood it himself?
So you are assuming that the posters here have more knowledge than Slasher why? Because it supports your views. Believe Slasher until proven otherwise by a credible source.
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Whoever is lying or being disingenuous, at the end of the day it's the same thing anyway. He was going to get a Code S spot. Now GOM has taken that away.
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On December 15 2011 01:29 Sergio1992 wrote:
I still don't undestand what Naniwa did.
I'm pretty sure if you just close your eyes and click on a random thread on the left side of the website, you will most likely find all the info you need. If not, try it again!
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On December 15 2011 01:29 Tanag wrote:
He still earned it, whether it was a "prize" from MLG or not. They don't just give code S slots to anyone. Revoking it after giving it is the same, regardless of how he got it.
No it is not the same. A spot earned at an outside tournament being revoked is surrounded by a myriad of issues. Having a spot that was GOING TO BE gifted to you, not give given to you, is very different.
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GOM giveth and GOM taketh away
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On one hand, we really don't need another thread about this.
On the other, this was actually useful information, so gj 
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On December 15 2011 01:26 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 00:03 SnoLys wrote:From MLG own site news: http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascensionUltimately he dropped the following four games, and despite not being crowned champion, Naniwa has presented one of the most captivating weeks imaginable, both in and out of the game. In the last week, Naniwa has rage quit of of a GSL match, flown half-way around the world, defeated the two most successful Korean Starcraft 2 players back-to-back, sparked a rivalry with Nestea, been the center of controversy in a rematch against Nestea, let a National Championship slip through his fingers and earned a seat in Code S. http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/going-out-with-a-bang-mlg-providence-starcraft-2-recapOver the last few months, Naniwa has been training hard over in Korea to take his game to the next level, and his hard work appeared to pay off in Providence. The 2nd Place finish was good enough to earn him a Code S spot, so keep an eye on this MLG Champion as he goes toe-to-toe with the world's best during the offseason. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/top-5-stories-from-mlg-providenceNaniwa, however, stayed focused on his goal. Amidst swirls of tabloid drama and misguided quotes, Naniwa kept his concentration on the task at hand. When his turn to enter the bracket finally rolled around, the Swedish Protoss defeated Nestea for the second time that weekend, and followed the feat with wins over Huk and DongRaeGu. In the end Naniwa failed to seal the deal as he lost four straight games against Leenock in the Grand Finals, but appeared to be a man with a renewed determination and a refined playstyle. With the pedigree Naniwa displayed over the weekend, it's hard not to be excited about Naniwa's 2012 prospects in Code S and at Major League Gaming Events. Edit: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-programPro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL
At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A.
At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows:
Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, within the Top 3, regardless of country of origin, who does not already have Code S status.
Code S status will not be awarded if all of the players placing 1st-3rd already have Code S Status.
Code A status will be awarded to the next three highest placing non-Korean players.
If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, or not awarded at all, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player.
Edit2: From Complexity, his team at the time: http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3270/Be sure to watch the GSL's Code S tournament as Naniwa secured himself a spot thanks to the MLG/GSL exchange program. http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/naniwa-secures-top-3-finish-victory-over-hukNaniwa was able to secure a huge victory and guarantee at least a Top 3 finish in Providence. That placement will gives him a chance to secure Code S and continues the run of world class players that Naniwa has defeated over the course of the championship weekend in Providence. Edit3: http://myeg.net/team/surprises-and-sadness-mlg-providence-day-3/NaNiwa has finally reestablished himself firmly as one of the world’s top Protoss – and earned himself a Code S spot to boot. Ofcourse he didnt lol:D MLG and GSL are lying why ? money
Was going to post that here, but seems like you posted me for me...
MLG, ESFI, EG and Complexity (Naniwa team at the time) are they all wrong and dreamed that Naniwa got the spot?
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On December 15 2011 01:31 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 01:26 Alvar wrote:
What does Slasher have to do with this? He probably just missunderstood it himself? So you are assuming that the posters here have more knowledge than Slasher why? Because it supports your views. Believe Slasher until proven otherwise by a credible source.
lol is there own homepage not a proven source?
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On December 15 2011 01:29 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 01:25 IOvEggY wrote:
heres how life is.
if you act like a dick
karmas going to come back at you
Lets look at it this way.
currently GSL is the SC2 channel in Korea.
All the koreans watch this so they can get their fill for SC2
GSL/GOMtv is a Business
Naniwa is a pawn in the business.
Naniwas job is to give SC2 games because he is a PRO, that is why he is THERE
Naniwa DID NOT fulfill his job. You cannot call that a game of sending probes.
Please dont say this is even a legitimate strategy, thats just some technical bullcrock. Would you even do it on ladder?
GSL was like well **** you, you dont make our business look good peace
/Endofthisnaniwa
Being a pro does not mean that. Being pro is you making money because you play the game. If being a pro meant show good games before everything, heall, you could bann half of the proscene.
Yes it does.
He didnt even give a game. He sent his probes.
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Wholey piss people.
Slasher lying? NO! Why the heck would he lie?
"EARNED" is a vague term if you actually think about it for two seconds. Did he earn it because he got 2nd and the league exchange program kicked in or did he earn it because he performed well, GOM knew he was in Korea, GOM knew he was a top foreigner, and GOM made the same decision they did with Idra/Sen.
Seriously. Wait for fricking facts before calling Slasher a liar.
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On December 15 2011 01:31 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 01:29 Sergio1992 wrote:
I still don't undestand what Naniwa did. I'm pretty sure if you just close your eyes and click on a random thread on the left side of the website, you will most likely find all the info you need. If not, try it again!
lol true and funny.
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Yeah, bullshit.
MLG gives Code S to the highest placing non Code S player. Why would this MLG all of a sudden not count?
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On December 15 2011 01:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Yeah, bullshit.
MLG gives Code S to the highest placing non Code S player. Why would this MLG all of a sudden not count?
cause it wasnt part of the exchange program? GSL didnt send any players to providence.
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I think Idra and Sen are much more deserving of a code S spot than naniwa. Well played GOM. Keep DIVAS out of SC2.
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On December 15 2011 01:31 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 01:26 Alvar wrote:
What does Slasher have to do with this? He probably just missunderstood it himself? So you are assuming that the posters here have more knowledge than Slasher why? Because it supports your views. Believe Slasher until proven otherwise by a credible source.
My views? you do not even know my views, I have no idea one way or the other, but all the evidence before Slashers twitter(?) says that Naniwa recieved the seed from providence, even statements from MLG.
Even the original statement from GOM said there was a seed from every pro circuit this year.
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On December 15 2011 01:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Yeah, bullshit.
MLG gives Code S to the highest placing non Code S player. Why would this MLG all of a sudden not count?
Becuase Naniwa is unpopular and they dont like Naniwa and want him out. And Idra brings alot more fans to GSL. All about the $$$$
And remember GSL and MLG got a partnership. No way in hell MLG gonna go out and say GSL is wrong lol
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On December 15 2011 01:33 IOvEggY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 01:29 Noocta wrote:On December 15 2011 01:25 IOvEggY wrote:
heres how life is.
if you act like a dick
karmas going to come back at you
Lets look at it this way.
currently GSL is the SC2 channel in Korea.
All the koreans watch this so they can get their fill for SC2
GSL/GOMtv is a Business
Naniwa is a pawn in the business.
Naniwas job is to give SC2 games because he is a PRO, that is why he is THERE
Naniwa DID NOT fulfill his job. You cannot call that a game of sending probes.
Please dont say this is even a legitimate strategy, thats just some technical bullcrock. Would you even do it on ladder?
GSL was like well **** you, you dont make our business look good peace
/Endofthisnaniwa
Being a pro does not mean that. Being pro is you making money because you play the game. If being a pro meant show good games before everything, heall, you could bann half of the proscene. Yes it does. He didnt even give a game. He sent his probes.
There was a countdown and there was a "gg". There was a game. Not a very good one or one he wanted to win but, he played the game. No different than when zergs go on tilt and 6 pool just to get the match over with as soon as possible. People are just giving shit to Naniwa because he probe rushed instead of canon rushed. Naniwa's only mistake was not pretending good enough which has never been his forte.
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