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On August 16 2011 09:35 Captain Peabody wrote:Show nested quote +You are misunderstanding... the only people that still think its EGHuK are trolls and idiots.... don't buy into it. I wouldn't say that. While nothing's final, EGHuk is by far the most likely option among the ones discussed so far. Like it or not (and I really don't like it), for now it fits with almost all the available evidence.
There is no reason for that to happen tho. Think of it, EgIdra hates huk and huk hates idra. Huk is in korea with Liquid/ogs in code S. He just got into code S a few months ago why would he leave. For people saying Idra huk trade there is no reason for that either, IdrA is doing well for Eg and huk for liquid so why would they put that on the line? It just makes no sense for them to get Huk.
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On August 16 2011 09:38 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:34 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:29 TheAmazombie wrote:On August 16 2011 09:28 ZAiNs wrote:On August 16 2011 09:27 ak1knight wrote:On August 16 2011 09:24 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:22 Chinchillin wrote:On August 16 2011 09:17 Serpico wrote:On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact. It's not a fact and you're acting like a child if that's how you'd really behave. How am I acting like a child? Have you never booed your rivals team before? Why is it that in SC, everything has to be so well mannered? It's and e-SPORT. SPORT Don't have to be mannered. Just don't be a fuckin dick. Never have I gone to a live sporting event (3 in my lifetime) and heard booing ever even from the hardcore fat drunks who paint the logos on their hairy stomaches. And in this case, you aren't booing a TEAM you are booing an individual, a real person, one. Are you serious? I hear people boo even their own teams/players all the time. I'd like to think that StarCraft crowds are more civilised than Football crowds. Seeing Cruncher getting booed was so painful, it hurt even more when Idra denied the handshake twice... It sucks, but yeah, even home teams boo a terrible performance from a starting pitcher sometimes. It is the nature of sports and it happens, at long as there is a reason. What I hate it someone booing someone else just because "they don't like him". MY POINT EXACTLY! That last part summed up what I tried to say. If you don't like him, or his decision. Move along. I have heard boo's because of bad calls or poor sportsmanship such as a glove being thrown at another player to incite an outburst, but those are completely different situations. And whoever brought up HOckey.... REALLY? The sport isn't about the overcooked biscuit, it's about the fights and the complete bad mannerism. So don't try to compare the two. Dude, I and along with 110,000 other people boo'd the shit outta every damn team that walked into Beaver Stadium to play against Penn State. Why? Because when they are going out there against my team, I fucking hate them. Seriously man, you just don't understand sports.
Then grow up. Not supporting another state/college/cities team is one thing, but to attack ONE individual is completely wrong. YOu are comparing a full 11-30 player team (whatever the roster may be) to a single person who is sponsored BY a team. Two totally different things. And sports aren't all about hating the other team you ingorant tard. It's about the competition, training to beat other teams. Not fans hating fans of the opposition. Such a skewed hipster view on the world you have.
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On August 16 2011 09:40 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:37 SynapseSC wrote: All of you who are citing other sports for your case for booing players need to recognize that SC2 is primarily a 1v1 / solo game. Just like many other games and sports that are primarily solo (Golf, tennis, poker, etc) it is almost unheard of to boo anybody. Team games have a very different aspect, especially when that team is representing a city. Yeah lets compare esports crowds to golf, tennis and poker crowds... Seriously you are comparing rich white man games to esports? An esports crowd is much closer to a football crowd than a golf one.
Poker is a 'rich white man' game? It's not about the makeup of the crowd, it's about the style of competition and the home town team effect. Many people watch team sports solely because they root for their hometown team. Many people watch Starcraft because they love the game no matter who is playing.
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On August 16 2011 09:35 Triscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:29 Sangyerians wrote:On August 16 2011 09:26 Serpico wrote:On August 16 2011 09:25 Sangyerians wrote:On August 16 2011 09:20 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:18 lowkontrast wrote:On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact. Never boo any player. +1 internetz. Cmon people, respect the players decisions. If this is true and Huk signs with EG it's for a reason. More money maybe? All you hipster dudes and your "Awww they went mainstream so I don't like them anymore" attitudes need to grow the F up and be happy that your fav player/team is doing better and succeeding. Every one of you would take more money to continue doing what you love. If people want eSports to be treated legitimately you can't expect this utopian sort of behaviour. I would've boo'd Brett Favre when he played for the Vikings. Utopian? If acting like a rational person is utopian, man I dont know. Not booing anyone and respecting everyone's decisions is utopian in my opinion. Everyone wants it cos "it'll further the growth of esports and sportsmanship and support is the most important thing yaaaay". But reality is, there will always be fanboys. Embrace it. That's ridiculous. I don't want people to be booed, not because it will further the growth of esports and blah blah blah, but because these are real fucking people who are just trying to do what is best for them and their career. An example of the average football fan is not going to get you very far. But that's my point exactly. As much as I don't like booing (especially when people take conversions and penalty goals - rugby example) the fact is it will happen. People expect the average Starcraft fan to be leaps and bounds ahead of the average football fan but if you take a real close look you'll see that there's plenty of BM everywhere. Trying to squash it will not help your cause of eSports being treated as legitimately as regular sport.
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i heard EG want to go better than slayers and recruit a bronze player due to the potential rather than a gold player
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This is such a ridiculous amount of hype just to annouce huk going to eg
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On August 16 2011 09:37 SynapseSC wrote: All of you who are citing other sports for your case for booing players need to recognize that SC2 is primarily a 1v1 / solo game. Just like many other games and sports that are primarily solo (Golf, tennis, poker, etc) it is almost unheard of to boo anybody. Team games have a very different aspect, especially when that team is representing a city.
Dont forget that the way progamers get paid is through teams, and teams get money from fans of the team buying sponsored stuff. While i doubt many people would resent huk for switching, alot of people might not be too pleased with eg, especially with the puma debacle that just happened (not saying eg did anything wrong, but alot of people weere left with a bad taste in their mouths as a result of all the drama that folllowed) and its this first impression that makes or breaks sponsorships. if the first thing you think of when you think EG is something like "they steal players" then thats not good marketing for their sponsors, regardless of how well eg players do in tournaments, and anything which drives sponsors away from a part sc2 is bad SC2 as a whole.
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Huk doesn't deserve to have a mystery website like this if he join EG. Or even anyone in the world. PPl need to grow up.....
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On August 16 2011 09:41 GrapeD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:35 Captain Peabody wrote:You are misunderstanding... the only people that still think its EGHuK are trolls and idiots.... don't buy into it. I wouldn't say that. While nothing's final, EGHuk is by far the most likely option among the ones discussed so far. Like it or not (and I really don't like it), for now it fits with almost all the available evidence. There is no reason for that to happen tho. Think of it, EgIdra hates huk and huk hates idra. Huk is in korea with Liquid/ogs in code S. He just got into code S a few months ago why would he leave. For people saying Idra huk trade there is no reason for that either, IdrA is doing well for Eg and huk for liquid so why would they put that on the line? It just makes no sense for them to get Huk.
Well the fact that u stated that Idra hates huk and huk hates idra is a point u cant prove in any way as u dont know them in real life and how they feel about each other as a person but i mean they shook hands in the NA invitational...
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379 pages... lol
Doesn't take much to make people excited... Would be funny if it's not sc2 related !
EDIT: Incontrol retiring and promoted to coach only ?
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On August 16 2011 09:43 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:37 SynapseSC wrote: All of you who are citing other sports for your case for booing players need to recognize that SC2 is primarily a 1v1 / solo game. Just like many other games and sports that are primarily solo (Golf, tennis, poker, etc) it is almost unheard of to boo anybody. Team games have a very different aspect, especially when that team is representing a city. Dont forget that the way progamers get paid is through teams, and teams get money from fans of the team buying sponsored stuff. While i doubt many people would resent huk for switching, alot of people might not be too pleased with eg, especially with the puma debacle that just happened (not saying eg did anything wrong, but alot of people weere left with a bad taste in their mouths as a result of all the drama that folllowed) and its this first impression that makes or breaks sponsorships. if the first thing you think of when you think EG is something like "they steal players" then thats not good marketing for their sponsors, regardless of how well eg players do in tournaments, and anything which drives sponsors away from a part sc2 is bad SC2 as a whole.
I don't deny that, but I think for the vast majority of SC2 fans it will not impact their opinion of a player or the decision to cheer that player at live events.
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On August 16 2011 09:43 tuho12345 wrote: Huk doesn't deserve to have a mystery website like this if he join EG. Or even anyone in the world. PPl need to grow up.....
People get off to people wanting to know something they do
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On August 16 2011 09:41 epidGoaty wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:38 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 16 2011 09:34 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:29 TheAmazombie wrote:On August 16 2011 09:28 ZAiNs wrote:On August 16 2011 09:27 ak1knight wrote:On August 16 2011 09:24 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:22 Chinchillin wrote:On August 16 2011 09:17 Serpico wrote:On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact. It's not a fact and you're acting like a child if that's how you'd really behave. How am I acting like a child? Have you never booed your rivals team before? Why is it that in SC, everything has to be so well mannered? It's and e-SPORT. SPORT Don't have to be mannered. Just don't be a fuckin dick. Never have I gone to a live sporting event (3 in my lifetime) and heard booing ever even from the hardcore fat drunks who paint the logos on their hairy stomaches. And in this case, you aren't booing a TEAM you are booing an individual, a real person, one. Are you serious? I hear people boo even their own teams/players all the time. I'd like to think that StarCraft crowds are more civilised than Football crowds. Seeing Cruncher getting booed was so painful, it hurt even more when Idra denied the handshake twice... It sucks, but yeah, even home teams boo a terrible performance from a starting pitcher sometimes. It is the nature of sports and it happens, at long as there is a reason. What I hate it someone booing someone else just because "they don't like him". MY POINT EXACTLY! That last part summed up what I tried to say. If you don't like him, or his decision. Move along. I have heard boo's because of bad calls or poor sportsmanship such as a glove being thrown at another player to incite an outburst, but those are completely different situations. And whoever brought up HOckey.... REALLY? The sport isn't about the overcooked biscuit, it's about the fights and the complete bad mannerism. So don't try to compare the two. Dude, I and along with 110,000 other people boo'd the shit outta every damn team that walked into Beaver Stadium to play against Penn State. Why? Because when they are going out there against my team, I fucking hate them. Seriously man, you just don't understand sports. Then grow up. Not supporting another state/college/cities team is one thing, but to attack ONE individual is completely wrong. YOu are comparing a full 11-30 player team (whatever the roster may be) to a single person who is sponsored BY a team. Two totally different things. And sports aren't all about hating the other team you ingorant tard. It's about the competition, training to beat other teams. Not fans hating fans of the opposition. Such a skewed hipster view on the world you have. Hahaha ok dude when did I ever say I was attacking an individual? You think boo'ing is an attack? Seriously, if people can't handle the boos, then they aren't gonna make it far in life.
Being a fan of your team means you support your team, you protect your teams honor, and guess what, when my team is on the field, I'm gonna boo the opposition, because they are trying to keep my team from winning, and I don't like that. Its not a hipster view, its a diehard fan view.
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On August 16 2011 09:43 Fission wrote: This is such a ridiculous amount of hype just to annouce huk going to eg You are right. There's seemingly something much bigger. There's no point focusing only on 1 probable player transfer.
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On August 16 2011 09:43 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:37 SynapseSC wrote: All of you who are citing other sports for your case for booing players need to recognize that SC2 is primarily a 1v1 / solo game. Just like many other games and sports that are primarily solo (Golf, tennis, poker, etc) it is almost unheard of to boo anybody. Team games have a very different aspect, especially when that team is representing a city. Dont forget that the way progamers get paid is through teams, and teams get money from fans of the team buying sponsored stuff. While i doubt many people would resent huk for switching, alot of people might not be too pleased with eg, especially with the puma debacle that just happened (not saying eg did anything wrong, but alot of people weere left with a bad taste in their mouths as a result of all the drama that folllowed) and its this first impression that makes or breaks sponsorships. if the first thing you think of when you think EG is something like "they steal players" then thats not good marketing for their sponsors, regardless of how well eg players do in tournaments, and anything which drives sponsors away from a part sc2 is bad SC2 as a whole. If someone painstakingly thinks EG steals players, that's on them. Sponsors want exposure and EG gets them that. To stretch that all the way to EG hurting esports is well, a stretch.
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On August 16 2011 09:41 epidGoaty wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:38 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 16 2011 09:34 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:29 TheAmazombie wrote:On August 16 2011 09:28 ZAiNs wrote:On August 16 2011 09:27 ak1knight wrote:On August 16 2011 09:24 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:22 Chinchillin wrote:On August 16 2011 09:17 Serpico wrote:On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact. It's not a fact and you're acting like a child if that's how you'd really behave. How am I acting like a child? Have you never booed your rivals team before? Why is it that in SC, everything has to be so well mannered? It's and e-SPORT. SPORT Don't have to be mannered. Just don't be a fuckin dick. Never have I gone to a live sporting event (3 in my lifetime) and heard booing ever even from the hardcore fat drunks who paint the logos on their hairy stomaches. And in this case, you aren't booing a TEAM you are booing an individual, a real person, one. Are you serious? I hear people boo even their own teams/players all the time. I'd like to think that StarCraft crowds are more civilised than Football crowds. Seeing Cruncher getting booed was so painful, it hurt even more when Idra denied the handshake twice... It sucks, but yeah, even home teams boo a terrible performance from a starting pitcher sometimes. It is the nature of sports and it happens, at long as there is a reason. What I hate it someone booing someone else just because "they don't like him". MY POINT EXACTLY! That last part summed up what I tried to say. If you don't like him, or his decision. Move along. I have heard boo's because of bad calls or poor sportsmanship such as a glove being thrown at another player to incite an outburst, but those are completely different situations. And whoever brought up HOckey.... REALLY? The sport isn't about the overcooked biscuit, it's about the fights and the complete bad mannerism. So don't try to compare the two. Dude, I and along with 110,000 other people boo'd the shit outta every damn team that walked into Beaver Stadium to play against Penn State. Why? Because when they are going out there against my team, I fucking hate them. Seriously man, you just don't understand sports. Then grow up. Not supporting another state/college/cities team is one thing, but to attack ONE individual is completely wrong. YOu are comparing a full 11-30 player team (whatever the roster may be) to a single person who is sponsored BY a team. Two totally different things. And sports aren't all about hating the other team you ingorant tard. It's about the competition, training to beat other teams. Not fans hating fans of the opposition. Such a skewed hipster view on the world you have.
Fucking insane that you would say the average sports fans' view is "hipster" when you're the one pretending it's immature to do something that is done in almost every single sports stadium on a regular basis.
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On August 16 2011 09:45 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:41 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:38 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 16 2011 09:34 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:29 TheAmazombie wrote:On August 16 2011 09:28 ZAiNs wrote:On August 16 2011 09:27 ak1knight wrote:On August 16 2011 09:24 epidGoaty wrote:On August 16 2011 09:22 Chinchillin wrote:On August 16 2011 09:17 Serpico wrote: [quote] It's not a fact and you're acting like a child if that's how you'd really behave. How am I acting like a child? Have you never booed your rivals team before? Why is it that in SC, everything has to be so well mannered? It's and e-SPORT. SPORT Don't have to be mannered. Just don't be a fuckin dick. Never have I gone to a live sporting event (3 in my lifetime) and heard booing ever even from the hardcore fat drunks who paint the logos on their hairy stomaches. And in this case, you aren't booing a TEAM you are booing an individual, a real person, one. Are you serious? I hear people boo even their own teams/players all the time. I'd like to think that StarCraft crowds are more civilised than Football crowds. Seeing Cruncher getting booed was so painful, it hurt even more when Idra denied the handshake twice... It sucks, but yeah, even home teams boo a terrible performance from a starting pitcher sometimes. It is the nature of sports and it happens, at long as there is a reason. What I hate it someone booing someone else just because "they don't like him". MY POINT EXACTLY! That last part summed up what I tried to say. If you don't like him, or his decision. Move along. I have heard boo's because of bad calls or poor sportsmanship such as a glove being thrown at another player to incite an outburst, but those are completely different situations. And whoever brought up HOckey.... REALLY? The sport isn't about the overcooked biscuit, it's about the fights and the complete bad mannerism. So don't try to compare the two. Dude, I and along with 110,000 other people boo'd the shit outta every damn team that walked into Beaver Stadium to play against Penn State. Why? Because when they are going out there against my team, I fucking hate them. Seriously man, you just don't understand sports. Then grow up. Not supporting another state/college/cities team is one thing, but to attack ONE individual is completely wrong. YOu are comparing a full 11-30 player team (whatever the roster may be) to a single person who is sponsored BY a team. Two totally different things. And sports aren't all about hating the other team you ingorant tard. It's about the competition, training to beat other teams. Not fans hating fans of the opposition. Such a skewed hipster view on the world you have. Hahaha ok dude when did I ever say I was attacking an individual? You think boo'ing is an attack? Seriously, if people can't handle the boos, then they aren't gonna make it far in life. Being a fan of your team means you support your team, you protect your teams honor, and guess what, when my team is on the field, I'm gonna boo the opposition, because they are trying to keep my team from winning, and I don't like that. Its not a hipster view, its a diehard fan view.
I'm with you on this one. I just think that as a professional in anything that is a competition that you should understand that people are rooting for you or against you. If booing someone "hurts their feelings", and affecting the way they play and live their life, then it might be them that needs to grow up. Wish we lived in England we'd be good soccer hooligans...
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This thread needs more Llamas.
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On August 16 2011 09:44 MoneyHypeMike wrote: 379 pages... lol
Doesn't take much to make people excited... Would be funny if it's not sc2 related !
EDIT: Incontrol retiring and promoted to coach only ?
We are bored people :l
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