On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
Never boo any player.
+1 internetz. Cmon people, respect the players decisions. If this is true and Huk signs with EG it's for a reason. More money maybe? All you hipster dudes and your "Awww they went mainstream so I don't like them anymore" attitudes need to grow the F up and be happy that your fav player/team is doing better and succeeding. Every one of you would take more money to continue doing what you love.
If people want eSports to be treated legitimately you can't expect this utopian sort of behaviour. I would've boo'd Brett Favre when he played for the Vikings.
Because he went to the Vikings for more money obviously. More like, he went to the Vikings because the team he played for originally forced him out to make way for their younger Quarterback, and he couldn't go back to New York because of the minor PR disasters that happened there. If you want to use your analogy, it would be Liquid telling HuK to make way for Hero and that HuK should retire. HuK doesn't want to retire so he goes to EG, maybe through a smaller team along the way.
Back on the original topic, I don't have a ton of respect for the EG organization as it is right now, but I respect the players they have on their StarCraft 2 team. If HuK ended up going to EG, I would probably dislike the EG organization even more, but I would continue to support their players
I still dont get the attitude of hating teams that actually try to get better players.
its not hating on teams wanting to get better players, it just leaves a bad taste in ones mouth when several teams each have a really good player who practised on the team for months before becoming good, then within a month or two of breaking out, some big money team comes and buys them all. the people who have been fans of the team for ages and followed that player as he got slowly better are left with a bit of a bad taste in their mouth.
On August 16 2011 09:12 Blackcat008 wrote: can we get an updated recap of what we know and what common theories are??
We know EG plans to make an announcement about something that may or may not be related to sc2 at all.
Theories: - Nothing screams cool kid coding like latin and distorted audio. - Backwards text is an efficient form of hiding data. - EG members find this highly amusing and are trolling people. - md5 hashes are very important.
About the actual announcement: Personally I feel the EGtGun theory has the most weight behind it. Just translate the 5th paragraph from Idra's first interview to latin, let google translate translate latin-> greek-> spanish -> latin. Write the first half of this text backwards and replace q with g, rot13 the whole thing and take md5. It should now be obvious.
One of the most intelligent posts in this thread. Why people are behaving like little school children about this I don't know. It's not even as good as Dan Brown. Go read the Da Vinci Code instead?
What first idra interview is this guy talking about? THIS MIGHT BE THE ANSWER!
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
Never boo any player.
+1 internetz. Cmon people, respect the players decisions. If this is true and Huk signs with EG it's for a reason. More money maybe? All you hipster dudes and your "Awww they went mainstream so I don't like them anymore" attitudes need to grow the F up and be happy that your fav player/team is doing better and succeeding. Every one of you would take more money to continue doing what you love.
If people want eSports to be treated legitimately you can't expect this utopian sort of behaviour. I would've boo'd Brett Favre when he played for the Vikings.
Because he went to the Vikings for more money obviously. More like, he went to the Vikings because the team he played for originally forced him out to make way for their younger Quarterback, and he couldn't go back to New York because of the minor PR disasters that happened there. If you want to use your analogy, it would be Liquid telling HuK to make way for Hero and that HuK should retire. HuK doesn't want to retire so he goes to EG, maybe through a smaller team along the way.
Back on the original topic, I don't have a ton of respect for the EG organization as it is right now, but I respect the players they have on their StarCraft 2 team. If HuK ended up going to EG, I would probably dislike the EG organization even more, but I would continue to support their players
I still dont get the attitude of hating teams that actually try to get better players.
its not hating on teams wanting to get better players, it just leaves a bad taste in ones mouth when several teams each have a really good player who practised on the team for months before becoming good, then within a month or two of breaking out, some big money team comes and buys them all. the people who have been fans of the team for ages and followed that player as he got slowly better are left with a bit of a bad taste in their mouth.
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
It's not a fact and you're acting like a child if that's how you'd really behave.
How am I acting like a child? Have you never booed your rivals team before? Why is it that in SC, everything has to be so well mannered? It's and e-SPORT. SPORT
Don't have to be mannered. Just don't be a fuckin dick. Never have I gone to a live sporting event (3 in my lifetime) and heard booing ever even from the hardcore fat drunks who paint the logos on their hairy stomaches. And in this case, you aren't booing a TEAM you are booing an individual, a real person, one.
Really? I went to a hockey game here right after Khabibulin got a DUI and everyone was yelling DUI at him. You must live in the nicest place on the planet.
Na this guy just has no idea what he's talking about. To be fair me saying I'd "boo his ass into the ground", was quite juvenile, and I just saw this thread for the first time and am very worked up about it... >< I think I would just lose a lot of respect for him as a player, it's the same as Lebron, do I hate the guy? No. But I will never cheer for him or anything of the sort. And to the dude saying "cool story bro", really? I said in my post that my opinion wasn't important, just thought I could share my thoughts like everyone else, sorry for the story!
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
It's not a fact and you're acting like a child if that's how you'd really behave.
How am I acting like a child? Have you never booed your rivals team before? Why is it that in SC, everything has to be so well mannered? It's and e-SPORT. SPORT
Don't have to be mannered. Just don't be a fuckin dick. Never have I gone to a live sporting event (3 in my lifetime) and heard booing ever even from the hardcore fat drunks who paint the logos on their hairy stomaches. And in this case, you aren't booing a TEAM you are booing an individual, a real person, one.
Are you serious? I hear people boo even their own teams/players all the time.
I'd like to think that StarCraft crowds are more civilised than Football crowds. Seeing Cruncher getting booed was so painful, it hurt even more when Idra denied the handshake twice...
It sucks, but yeah, even home teams boo a terrible performance from a starting pitcher sometimes. It is the nature of sports and it happens, at long as there is a reason. What I hate it someone booing someone else just because "they don't like him".
MY POINT EXACTLY! That last part summed up what I tried to say. If you don't like him, or his decision. Move along. I have heard boo's because of bad calls or poor sportsmanship such as a glove being thrown at another player to incite an outburst, but those are completely different situations. And whoever brought up HOckey.... REALLY? The sport isn't about the overcooked biscuit, it's about the fights and the complete bad mannerism. So don't try to compare the two.
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
Never boo any player.
+1 internetz. Cmon people, respect the players decisions. If this is true and Huk signs with EG it's for a reason. More money maybe? All you hipster dudes and your "Awww they went mainstream so I don't like them anymore" attitudes need to grow the F up and be happy that your fav player/team is doing better and succeeding. Every one of you would take more money to continue doing what you love.
If people want eSports to be treated legitimately you can't expect this utopian sort of behaviour. I would've boo'd Brett Favre when he played for the Vikings.
Utopian? If acting like a rational person is utopian, man I dont know.
Not booing anyone and respecting everyone's decisions is utopian in my opinion. Everyone wants it cos "it'll further the growth of esports and sportsmanship and support is the most important thing yaaaay". But reality is, there will always be fanboys.
Embrace it.
That's ridiculous. I don't want people to be booed, not because it will further the growth of esports and blah blah blah, but because these are real fucking people who are just trying to do what is best for them and their career. An example of the average football fan is not going to get you very far.
You are misunderstanding... the only people that still think its EGHuK are trolls and idiots.... don't buy into it.
I wouldn't say that. While nothing's final, EGHuk is by far the most likely option among the ones discussed so far. Like it or not (and I really don't like it), for now it fits with almost all the available evidence.
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
Never boo any player.
+1 internetz. Cmon people, respect the players decisions. If this is true and Huk signs with EG it's for a reason. More money maybe? All you hipster dudes and your "Awww they went mainstream so I don't like them anymore" attitudes need to grow the F up and be happy that your fav player/team is doing better and succeeding. Every one of you would take more money to continue doing what you love.
If people want eSports to be treated legitimately you can't expect this utopian sort of behaviour. I would've boo'd Brett Favre when he played for the Vikings.
Because he went to the Vikings for more money obviously. More like, he went to the Vikings because the team he played for originally forced him out to make way for their younger Quarterback, and he couldn't go back to New York because of the minor PR disasters that happened there. If you want to use your analogy, it would be Liquid telling HuK to make way for Hero and that HuK should retire. HuK doesn't want to retire so he goes to EG, maybe through a smaller team along the way.
Back on the original topic, I don't have a ton of respect for the EG organization as it is right now, but I respect the players they have on their StarCraft 2 team. If HuK ended up going to EG, I would probably dislike the EG organization even more, but I would continue to support their players
I still dont get the attitude of hating teams that actually try to get better players.
its not hating on teams wanting to get better players, it just leaves a bad taste in ones mouth when several teams each have a really good player who practised on the team for months before becoming good, then within a month or two of breaking out, some big money team comes and buys them all. the people who have been fans of the team for ages and followed that player as he got slowly better are left with a bit of a bad taste in their mouth.
It happens all the time and is expected, people should be used to it.
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
Never boo any player.
+1 internetz. Cmon people, respect the players decisions. If this is true and Huk signs with EG it's for a reason. More money maybe? All you hipster dudes and your "Awww they went mainstream so I don't like them anymore" attitudes need to grow the F up and be happy that your fav player/team is doing better and succeeding. Every one of you would take more money to continue doing what you love.
If people want eSports to be treated legitimately you can't expect this utopian sort of behaviour. I would've boo'd Brett Favre when he played for the Vikings.
Utopian? If acting like a rational person is utopian, man I dont know.
Not booing anyone and respecting everyone's decisions is utopian in my opinion. Everyone wants it cos "it'll further the growth of esports and sportsmanship and support is the most important thing yaaaay". But reality is, there will always be fanboys.
Embrace it.
That's ridiculous. I don't want people to be booed, not because it will further the growth of esports and blah blah blah, but because these are real fucking people who are just trying to do what is best for them and their career. An example of the average football fan is not going to get you very far.
I just don't see it being better for his career unless he's making some serious loot. Living in one of the 3 best teams in the worlds house and practicing with some of the legends of Starcraft is worth a lot of money.
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
Never boo any player.
+1 internetz. Cmon people, respect the players decisions. If this is true and Huk signs with EG it's for a reason. More money maybe? All you hipster dudes and your "Awww they went mainstream so I don't like them anymore" attitudes need to grow the F up and be happy that your fav player/team is doing better and succeeding. Every one of you would take more money to continue doing what you love.
If people want eSports to be treated legitimately you can't expect this utopian sort of behaviour. I would've boo'd Brett Favre when he played for the Vikings.
Utopian? If acting like a rational person is utopian, man I dont know.
Not booing anyone and respecting everyone's decisions is utopian in my opinion. Everyone wants it cos "it'll further the growth of esports and sportsmanship and support is the most important thing yaaaay". But reality is, there will always be fanboys.
Embrace it.
That's ridiculous. I don't want people to be booed, not because it will further the growth of esports and blah blah blah, but because these are real fucking people who are just trying to do what is best for them and their career. An example of the average football fan is not going to get you very far.
Everyone is comparing Starcraft 2 to shit like Baseball, Football, Basketball, ect., and this is just not accurate.
Starcraft 2 - if you HAVE to compare it to a sport - is more like boxing or MMA.
The teams practice together, share sponsors, share a gym (training house), but at the end of the day its an individual competition. At the end of the day, people ask you who your favorite fighter/boxer is, NOT who your favorite team is.
If Huk were to go to EG, and you're a fan of Huk, then you shouldn't care. Simple as that.
All of you who are citing other sports for your case for booing players need to recognize that SC2 is primarily a 1v1 / solo game. Just like many other games and sports that are primarily solo (Golf, tennis, poker, etc) it is almost unheard of to boo anybody. Team games have a very different aspect, especially when that team is representing a city.
You are misunderstanding... the only people that still think its EGHuK are trolls and idiots.... don't buy into it.
I wouldn't say that. While nothing's final, EGHuk is by far the most likely option among the ones discussed so far. Like it or not (and I really don't like it), for now it fits with almost all the available evidence.
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
It's not a fact and you're acting like a child if that's how you'd really behave.
How am I acting like a child? Have you never booed your rivals team before? Why is it that in SC, everything has to be so well mannered? It's and e-SPORT. SPORT
Don't have to be mannered. Just don't be a fuckin dick. Never have I gone to a live sporting event (3 in my lifetime) and heard booing ever even from the hardcore fat drunks who paint the logos on their hairy stomaches. And in this case, you aren't booing a TEAM you are booing an individual, a real person, one.
Are you serious? I hear people boo even their own teams/players all the time.
I'd like to think that StarCraft crowds are more civilised than Football crowds. Seeing Cruncher getting booed was so painful, it hurt even more when Idra denied the handshake twice...
It sucks, but yeah, even home teams boo a terrible performance from a starting pitcher sometimes. It is the nature of sports and it happens, at long as there is a reason. What I hate it someone booing someone else just because "they don't like him".
MY POINT EXACTLY! That last part summed up what I tried to say. If you don't like him, or his decision. Move along. I have heard boo's because of bad calls or poor sportsmanship such as a glove being thrown at another player to incite an outburst, but those are completely different situations. And whoever brought up HOckey.... REALLY? The sport isn't about the overcooked biscuit, it's about the fights and the complete bad mannerism. So don't try to compare the two.
Dude, I and along with 110,000 other people boo'd the shit outta every damn team that walked into Beaver Stadium to play against Penn State. Why? Because when they are going out there against my team, I fucking hate them. Seriously man, you just don't understand sports.
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
It's not a fact and you're acting like a child if that's how you'd really behave.
In the face of a six figure contract, nothing else matters. Many people dislike EG for multiple reasons and they're just butt hurt that TL's premiere player just might leave for a team that they resent. However, the fact is that EG most likely can offer HuK more money than TL ever could at the moment. EG has built up so many sponsors over the years they can make acquisitions like this.
If you're a true HuK fan you will respect any decision that he makes. If HuK feel's hes better off on a team like EG, then by all means he should pursue it. Would I prefer if HuK stays on liquid? Yes, without a doubt. However at the end of the day, it's all about what's best for the players we support and I would welcome HuK's decision with a supportive and open mind.
On August 16 2011 09:16 Chinchillin wrote: Honestly, I can't see why Huk would want to join EG. He's on a far more respected and established team now, and it would lose him a LOT of fans. I know at MLG Prov, if it's EGHuk I see, I will have no interest whatsoever in trying to show my admiration, and would for a fact boo his ass into the ground. Not trying to say that my opinion is the be all, end all, but I feel like a lot more people are with me rather than against me on this fact.
It's not a fact and you're acting like a child if that's how you'd really behave.
How am I acting like a child? Have you never booed your rivals team before? Why is it that in SC, everything has to be so well mannered? It's and e-SPORT. SPORT
Don't have to be mannered. Just don't be a fuckin dick. Never have I gone to a live sporting event (3 in my lifetime) and heard booing ever even from the hardcore fat drunks who paint the logos on their hairy stomaches. And in this case, you aren't booing a TEAM you are booing an individual, a real person, one.
Really? I went to a hockey game here right after Khabibulin got a DUI and everyone was yelling DUI at him. You must live in the nicest place on the planet.
Na this guy just has no idea what he's talking about. To be fair me saying I'd "boo his ass into the ground", was quite juvenile, and I just saw this thread for the first time and am very worked up about it... >< I think I would just lose a lot of respect for him as a player, it's the same as Lebron, do I hate the guy? No. But I will never cheer for him or anything of the sort. And to the dude saying "cool story bro", really? I said in my post that my opinion wasn't important, just thought I could share my thoughts like everyone else, sorry for the story!
its not really fair to huk if he was approached with a 6 figure contract or something like that. teamliquid doesnt have the same sponsor backing eg does so if his current contract is say $40k a year and he is aproached with an offer of $120k a year from eg, then its not fair to expect him to say no, especially with a career like a progamer where so many players barely get enough to live on.
if this is the case i just think its kind of bad taste from eg, going around sniping the best players off different teams.
On August 16 2011 09:37 Noktix wrote: Everyone is comparing Starcraft 2 to shit like Baseball, Football, Basketball, ect., and this is just not accurate.
Starcraft 2 - if you HAVE to compare it to a sport - is more like boxing or MMA.
The teams practice together, share sponsors, share a gym (training house), but at the end of the day its an individual competition. At the end of the day, people ask you who your favorite fighter/boxer is, NOT who your favorite team is.
If Huk were to go to EG, and you're a fan of Huk, then you shouldn't care. Simple as that.
I love Huk because of this-
I knew he and TLO were two of my favorite players right there, because they seemed like not only teammates, but good friends. I just think it would really hurt everyone on his team if he decided to leave for their "rival" of sorts.
By the way, even if this whole announcement isn't about Huk, how much do you think he's LOVING this thread? :D
On August 16 2011 09:37 Noktix wrote: Everyone is comparing Starcraft 2 to shit like Baseball, Football, Basketball, ect., and this is just not accurate.
Starcraft 2 - if you HAVE to compare it to a sport - is more like boxing or MMA.
The teams practice together, share sponsors, share a gym (training house), but at the end of the day its an individual competition. At the end of the day, people ask you who your favorite fighter/boxer is, NOT who your favorite team is.
If Huk were to go to EG, and you're a fan of Huk, then you shouldn't care. Simple as that.
IMO sc2 is much more versatile a competitive sport then boxing and MMA. true 1v1 tournies such as mlg and GSL might seem like good comparisons to those sports but I feel team league adds an entire new sport so to speak to sc2.
On August 16 2011 09:37 SynapseSC wrote: All of you who are citing other sports for your case for booing players need to recognize that SC2 is primarily a 1v1 / solo game. Just like many other games and sports that are primarily solo (Golf, tennis, poker, etc) it is almost unheard of to boo anybody. Team games have a very different aspect, especially when that team is representing a city.
Yeah lets compare esports crowds to golf, tennis and poker crowds... Seriously you are comparing rich white man games to esports? An esports crowd is much closer to a football crowd than a golf one.
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