On August 23 2006 16:37 tKd_ wrote:
I definitely wonder how Mondragon, Testie, etc. don't play for a period of time and still own up. It's amazing. It's definitely the way they think.

Also their definition of inactive usually means playing a shitload more than most players so that helps a lot..

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

August 23 2006 08:36 GMT

#122

Where the hell do i attack you? Being called a hypocrite is a matter of my opinion. You accussed the korean audience of blind faith i do the same with you here.

I understand your opinion and think your last post was much better in describing your feelings. I still think its completely ludicrous to base an opinion as wide spread as "Ret will tear through everyone under "5" <-- "based on whos ranking?" because you saw him beat Artofglory who sucks, especially vs Z and Orion, who is absolutely incredible yes but in no way constitutes "OH WELL SINCE HE BEAT HIM ALL OTHERS WILL FALL"

So while i think you did a much better job describing how you feel, i hope you can see why its so silly to make such a gargantuan statement RIGHT AFTER similar comments about the korean audience.

jkillashark

United States5262 Posts

August 23 2006 09:38 GMT

#123

Who the heck cares about being a coward? This is the OSL and they want to win it. If picking easy wins for Zerg players helps them, why can't they do it without getting criticized for making "coward" picks? Terran picks a Zerg, ooooh he's a coward. Zerg picks a Protoss, omgomgomgomg he's a coward, Protoss picks anything oh he's not a coward cause Protoss sucks against everything.

TheGreatOne

United States534 Posts

August 23 2006 15:00 GMT

#124

Yes Agreed with incontrol, you can't base nothing on under 5 games no matter who its vs or in fact basing it on the he beat Dream.T)Orion omg hes so good now he can beat any foreign zergs.. if that was true seeing as how Draco has beat many great players that would mean he rapes all foreign players but he still doesn't there's just too many variables in a game that can decide it..

PaleMan

Russian Federation1953 Posts

August 23 2006 15:40 GMT

#125

ret sucks

discussion is over

lightman

United States731 Posts

August 23 2006 19:18 GMT

#126

I have a question -side topic-

What is Midas TvP record and when was the last time he lost a TvP (game or series) against who?

Same for July's ZvP

please thanks.

lightman

United States731 Posts

August 23 2006 19:25 GMT

#127

On August 23 2006 16:37 tKd_ wrote:
I definitely wonder how Mondragon, Testie, etc. don't play for a period of time and still own up. It's amazing. It's definitely the way they think.

my 2 cents

dude, do you have any idea how many games has testie played in his life ?? He was already a decent player when replays weren't around (ok he was a hacker). Don't eat that crap he's working or has a social life, girlfriend, man of affairs, bs. That dude has played probably (and literally) MILLIONS of games. he knows the strats, he knows the speed... doesn't matter if he quits playing 1 day or 1 year. after playing millions of games, it must stick into your brain right ? unless you're stimpy.

sure some talent is requiered and there are the other players that are naturally born with it to keep up playing at high level (not testie's case in my opinion), let's take a real old school good player like nazgul or maynard or slayer come back again some of the real good players back when no reps where out there (cause testie wasn't that good back then), I'm pretty sure it would take them perhaps only a couple of weeks to regain their level. Why do you think Fisheye always qualifies for WCG every year ?

amoxicilline

France1124 Posts

August 23 2006 20:07 GMT

#128

wtf has this to do with ogn groupe selection ?

btw go nada -_-

NubainMuscle

South Africa423 Posts

August 25 2006 09:38 GMT

#129

On August 24 2006 04:18 lightman wrote:
I have a question -side topic-

What is Midas TvP record and when was the last time he lost a TvP (game or series) against who?

Same for July's ZvP

please thanks.

Midas lost to Stork in the group stage tie-breaker last OSL on Cultivation Period.
July lost to Rock in the group stage last OSL on Sin 815 III.

These may not be the most recent defeats, but the latest that I can personally remember.

NubainMuscle

South Africa423 Posts

August 25 2006 10:00 GMT

#130

On August 24 2006 04:25 lightman wrote:
dude, do you have any idea how many games has testie played in his life ?? He was already a decent player when replays weren't around (ok he was a hacker). Don't eat that crap he's working or has a social life, girlfriend, man of affairs, bs. That dude has played probably (and literally) MILLIONS of games. he knows the strats, he knows the speed... doesn't matter if he quits playing 1 day or 1 year. after playing millions of games, it must stick into your brain right ? unless you're stimpy.

Millions of games? You are way off...

1 million / 8 = 125,000 games / year

125,000 / 365 = 342 GAMES / DAY

And you were implying not just 1 million, but several million too!

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Realistically,
The older, more dedicated players have probably played roughly ~ 30,000 - 40,000 serious 1v1's.

Even 50 games / day, every single day of the year (no holiday, let alone vacation) since Starcraft was first released would only yield 146,000.

Not to mention many of the top foreigners are known to get by with only 5-10 games per day.