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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-23 12:44:18
October 23 2007 12:38 GMT
#21
On October 23 2007 21:07 NoDDiE wrote:
don't agree with last part -
corsairs aren't insane in pvt
actually making some d-web is very sexy win XDDD


I agree, Corsairs are sometimes REALLY helpful to have in PvT.

I upgraded Disruption Web and the energy upgrade for Corsairs on Lost Temple (I was 12 and he was 2) and he kept annoying the hell out of me because I couldn't approach his main in any way, shape, or form but with my Corsairs I was able to pull off a GIGANTIC Recall for the win.

Corsairs are REALLY useful in clutch play

Also, that's one long guide. I couldn't read all of it.

edit: And why in the WORLD are there MEOWs everywhere -_-
^-^
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
October 23 2007 13:04 GMT
#22
Because our wonderful creatures - probes - say Meow. (Or something similar to that. To understand the "wonderful creatures" quote and "meow", you probably want to watch one of Nony's FPVODs.)

Excellent guide; you covered many aspects of the matchup, including a very vital part regarding how to react to what you scout. Thanks a bunch!
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
phreekill
Profile Joined October 2007
United States46 Posts
October 23 2007 13:52 GMT
#23
Thank you for this guide. Even a Terran user can read it to improve his tvp.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
October 23 2007 14:45 GMT
#24
Not sure why all the negative comments on page 1. I read it all and I thought it was concise, light-hearted and accurate. Fuck the haters!
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
October 23 2007 16:44 GMT
#25
hahaha not bad, really had some funny bits there =D
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
October 23 2007 17:32 GMT
#26
Great post .
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
October 23 2007 19:43 GMT
#27
GOOD GUIDE
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
October 23 2007 19:53 GMT
#28
Nice read with good pictures, how'd you take them so well in all these situations?
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
October 23 2007 20:24 GMT
#29
Nice pictures, nice writing style.

The guide is very helpful for newer players like me.

Thanks.
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Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
October 23 2007 21:12 GMT
#30
good post man , now we can all get owned by p mass countering
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-24 19:57:02
October 23 2007 22:38 GMT
#31
amazing guide!
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-23 23:32:50
October 23 2007 23:28 GMT
#32
Wow. Amazing guide, truly. Probably one of the best if not the best I've ever read. I'd say "MORE PLZ" but you covered so much and it's so helpful... All I can say is

THANK YOU!!! <3

P.S.: Just as I was thinking to propose a screenshot to your "mines are a double edged sword" thing, you already had basically same one posted n_n. Nice. I will post mine here anyways <<.
+ Show Spoiler +

fanatacist vs Pressure

1 Goon that was micro'd out (the low health one), I have killed 1 Tank 1 Rine 2 Mines with these 4 Goons. I'm feeling awesome. Then I get the sinister plan for the last mine:

[image loading]


[image loading]


[image loading]



Now I just can't wait until some Terran does something super pimp, like attack their own mine while it is coming towards them or something of that sort. Then it will become standard super micro, and then the game will revolutionize again n_n

If only >: ...


P.P.S.: If by helpful replays you mean Pro and amateur, I could give you the replay of this one... I did a pretty good job with 2 Gate Goon, moved out early with the 4 to stop his early push, owned it with some things you mentioned in the guide. Get back to me if you want it.
Peace~
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 24 2007 00:25 GMT
#33
i dont even play protoss (except for occasionally dabbling in PvP) but i read this entire thing solely because i loved the style and humor with which it was written. Very well done
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 24 2007 02:24 GMT
#34
wow good job, great read with nice dashes of comedy which makes reading it even more exciting.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
crescendo
Profile Joined April 2007
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-24 02:49:19
October 24 2007 02:47 GMT
#35
I thank everyone who read and all the helpful comments. A small replay pack is up. =)

Thank you Chill, BTW. When's your next Zerg commentary coming? =O

I don't know why so many people got sensitive about the Corsair issue, which was said partly in jest, anyway. Do I have to throw up an emoticon every single time I'm not being completely serious or something? o_O Anyways, Goon/Web is not the most effective strategy and my guide, as I stated in the Foreword, is mostly to help people that are getting used to the Terran matchup and to reiterate basics for the matchup. Are Corsairs useable? Absolutely. Are they the most practical? No. If the Terran was going Wraiths versus your Carrier force, well yeah obviously, throw in a few Corsairs. BluzMan also mentioned mass drops-- yep, Corsairs are not bad there too. But for the most part, if you're going Corsairs, it's late game and you're very likely in control of the game. Carriers should rape anything Terran has up and down, and if you've teched Carriers against a turtle Terran, I don't see how you could be having trouble because you should have map control by then. If you were going Goon/Web, I don't have enough experience to talk about it, but I don't see it as a very viable strategy at higher levels of competition or for those that aren't used to PvT. Safetoss first, creative strategies once you start raping.

I'm sorry if I missed stuff, but by all means, don't hesitate to talk about it here and help other Protoss players out with this matchup. Again, thanks to everyone for constructive criticism and compliments, it means a lot! =D
this mic is live
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 24 2007 02:56 GMT
#36
On October 24 2007 08:28 fanatacist wrote:
Wow. Amazing guide, truly. Probably one of the best if not the best I've ever read. I'd say "MORE PLZ" but you covered so much and it's so helpful... All I can say is

THANK YOU!!! <3

P.S.: Just as I was thinking to propose a screenshot to your "mines are a double edged sword" thing, you already had basically same one posted n_n. Nice. I will post mine here anyways <<.
+ Show Spoiler +

fanatacist vs Pressure

1 Goon that was micro'd out (the low health one), I have killed 1 Tank 1 Rine 2 Mines with these 4 Goons. I'm feeling awesome. Then I get the sinister plan for the last mine:

[image loading]


[image loading]


[image loading]



Now I just can't wait until some Terran does something super pimp, like attack their own mine while it is coming towards them or something of that sort. Then it will become standard super micro, and then the game will revolutionize again n_n

If only >: ...


P.P.S.: If by helpful replays you mean Pro and amateur, I could give you the replay of this one... I did a pretty good job with 2 Gate Goon, moved out early with the 4 to stop his early push, owned it with some things you mentioned in the guide. Get back to me if you want it.


I feel bad for Pressure because you HAD to use his pictures hahaha
^-^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 24 2007 02:56 GMT
#37
On October 23 2007 22:04 sd502 wrote:
Because our wonderful creatures - probes - say Meow. (Or something similar to that. To understand the "wonderful creatures" quote and "meow", you probably want to watch one of Nony's FPVODs.)

Excellent guide; you covered many aspects of the matchup, including a very vital part regarding how to react to what you scout. Thanks a bunch!


MEOW! <3

I get it now ^_^
^-^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 24 2007 02:58 GMT
#38
On October 24 2007 11:47 crescendo wrote:
I thank everyone who read and all the helpful comments. A small replay pack is up. =)

Thank you Chill, BTW. When's your next Zerg commentary coming? =O

I don't know why so many people got sensitive about the Corsair issue, which was said partly in jest, anyway. Do I have to throw up an emoticon every single time I'm not being completely serious or something? o_O Anyways, Goon/Web is not the most effective strategy and my guide, as I stated in the Foreword, is mostly to help people that are getting used to the Terran matchup and to reiterate basics for the matchup. Are Corsairs useable? Absolutely. Are they the most practical? No. If the Terran was going Wraiths versus your Carrier force, well yeah obviously, throw in a few Corsairs. BluzMan also mentioned mass drops-- yep, Corsairs are not bad there too. But for the most part, if you're going Corsairs, it's late game and you're very likely in control of the game. Carriers should rape anything Terran has up and down, and if you've teched Carriers against a turtle Terran, I don't see how you could be having trouble because you should have map control by then. If you were going Goon/Web, I don't have enough experience to talk about it, but I don't see it as a very viable strategy at higher levels of competition or for those that aren't used to PvT. Safetoss first, creative strategies once you start raping.

I'm sorry if I missed stuff, but by all means, don't hesitate to talk about it here and help other Protoss players out with this matchup. Again, thanks to everyone for constructive criticism and compliments, it means a lot! =D


Haha good point there -_-

But next time make sure you put lots of ^_^ ^^;;; :O :D next time you put something sarcastic haha
^-^
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
October 24 2007 03:47 GMT
#39
fana
i dont even remember playing you

i lost that one though?
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 24 2007 03:57 GMT
#40
On October 24 2007 12:47 Pressure wrote:
fana
i dont even remember playing you

i lost that one though?


Well obviously.

He has 4 Dragoons, you apparently had nothing left, and the replay was almost done.
^-^
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