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On October 23 2007 21:07 NoDDiE wrote: don't agree with last part - corsairs aren't insane in pvt actually making some d-web is very sexy win XDDD
I agree, Corsairs are sometimes REALLY helpful to have in PvT.
I upgraded Disruption Web and the energy upgrade for Corsairs on Lost Temple (I was 12 and he was 2) and he kept annoying the hell out of me because I couldn't approach his main in any way, shape, or form but with my Corsairs I was able to pull off a GIGANTIC Recall for the win.
Corsairs are REALLY useful in clutch play
Also, that's one long guide. I couldn't read all of it.
edit: And why in the WORLD are there MEOWs everywhere -_-
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Because our wonderful creatures - probes - say Meow. (Or something similar to that. To understand the "wonderful creatures" quote and "meow", you probably want to watch one of Nony's FPVODs.)
Excellent guide; you covered many aspects of the matchup, including a very vital part regarding how to react to what you scout. Thanks a bunch!
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Thank you for this guide. Even a Terran user can read it to improve his tvp.
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Calgary25955 Posts
Not sure why all the negative comments on page 1. I read it all and I thought it was concise, light-hearted and accurate. Fuck the haters!
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United Arab Emirates5090 Posts
hahaha not bad, really had some funny bits there =D
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Great post .
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Nice read with good pictures, how'd you take them so well in all these situations?
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Canada7170 Posts
Nice pictures, nice writing style.
The guide is very helpful for newer players like me.
Thanks.
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good post man , now we can all get owned by p mass countering
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amazing guide!
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Wow. Amazing guide, truly. Probably one of the best if not the best I've ever read. I'd say "MORE PLZ" but you covered so much and it's so helpful... All I can say is
THANK YOU!!! <3
P.S.: Just as I was thinking to propose a screenshot to your "mines are a double edged sword" thing, you already had basically same one posted n_n. Nice. I will post mine here anyways <<. + Show Spoiler + fanatacist vs Pressure 1 Goon that was micro'd out (the low health one), I have killed 1 Tank 1 Rine 2 Mines with these 4 Goons. I'm feeling awesome. Then I get the sinister plan for the last mine:
Now I just can't wait until some Terran does something super pimp, like attack their own mine while it is coming towards them or something of that sort. Then it will become standard super micro, and then the game will revolutionize again n_n
If only >: ...
P.P.S.: If by helpful replays you mean Pro and amateur, I could give you the replay of this one... I did a pretty good job with 2 Gate Goon, moved out early with the 4 to stop his early push, owned it with some things you mentioned in the guide. Get back to me if you want it.
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i dont even play protoss (except for occasionally dabbling in PvP) but i read this entire thing solely because i loved the style and humor with which it was written. Very well done
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wow good job, great read with nice dashes of comedy which makes reading it even more exciting.
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I thank everyone who read and all the helpful comments. A small replay pack is up. =)
Thank you Chill, BTW. When's your next Zerg commentary coming? =O
I don't know why so many people got sensitive about the Corsair issue, which was said partly in jest, anyway. Do I have to throw up an emoticon every single time I'm not being completely serious or something? o_O Anyways, Goon/Web is not the most effective strategy and my guide, as I stated in the Foreword, is mostly to help people that are getting used to the Terran matchup and to reiterate basics for the matchup. Are Corsairs useable? Absolutely. Are they the most practical? No. If the Terran was going Wraiths versus your Carrier force, well yeah obviously, throw in a few Corsairs. BluzMan also mentioned mass drops-- yep, Corsairs are not bad there too. But for the most part, if you're going Corsairs, it's late game and you're very likely in control of the game. Carriers should rape anything Terran has up and down, and if you've teched Carriers against a turtle Terran, I don't see how you could be having trouble because you should have map control by then. If you were going Goon/Web, I don't have enough experience to talk about it, but I don't see it as a very viable strategy at higher levels of competition or for those that aren't used to PvT. Safetoss first, creative strategies once you start raping.
I'm sorry if I missed stuff, but by all means, don't hesitate to talk about it here and help other Protoss players out with this matchup. Again, thanks to everyone for constructive criticism and compliments, it means a lot! =D
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On October 24 2007 08:28 fanatacist wrote:Wow. Amazing guide, truly. Probably one of the best if not the best I've ever read. I'd say "MORE PLZ" but you covered so much and it's so helpful... All I can say is THANK YOU!!! <3 P.S.: Just as I was thinking to propose a screenshot to your "mines are a double edged sword" thing, you already had basically same one posted n_n. Nice. I will post mine here anyways <<. + Show Spoiler + fanatacist vs Pressure 1 Goon that was micro'd out (the low health one), I have killed 1 Tank 1 Rine 2 Mines with these 4 Goons. I'm feeling awesome. Then I get the sinister plan for the last mine: Now I just can't wait until some Terran does something super pimp, like attack their own mine while it is coming towards them or something of that sort. Then it will become standard super micro, and then the game will revolutionize again n_n If only >: ... P.P.S.: If by helpful replays you mean Pro and amateur, I could give you the replay of this one... I did a pretty good job with 2 Gate Goon, moved out early with the 4 to stop his early push, owned it with some things you mentioned in the guide. Get back to me if you want it.
I feel bad for Pressure because you HAD to use his pictures hahaha
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On October 23 2007 22:04 sd502 wrote: Because our wonderful creatures - probes - say Meow. (Or something similar to that. To understand the "wonderful creatures" quote and "meow", you probably want to watch one of Nony's FPVODs.)
Excellent guide; you covered many aspects of the matchup, including a very vital part regarding how to react to what you scout. Thanks a bunch!
MEOW! <3
I get it now ^_^
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On October 24 2007 11:47 crescendo wrote: I thank everyone who read and all the helpful comments. A small replay pack is up. =)
Thank you Chill, BTW. When's your next Zerg commentary coming? =O
I don't know why so many people got sensitive about the Corsair issue, which was said partly in jest, anyway. Do I have to throw up an emoticon every single time I'm not being completely serious or something? o_O Anyways, Goon/Web is not the most effective strategy and my guide, as I stated in the Foreword, is mostly to help people that are getting used to the Terran matchup and to reiterate basics for the matchup. Are Corsairs useable? Absolutely. Are they the most practical? No. If the Terran was going Wraiths versus your Carrier force, well yeah obviously, throw in a few Corsairs. BluzMan also mentioned mass drops-- yep, Corsairs are not bad there too. But for the most part, if you're going Corsairs, it's late game and you're very likely in control of the game. Carriers should rape anything Terran has up and down, and if you've teched Carriers against a turtle Terran, I don't see how you could be having trouble because you should have map control by then. If you were going Goon/Web, I don't have enough experience to talk about it, but I don't see it as a very viable strategy at higher levels of competition or for those that aren't used to PvT. Safetoss first, creative strategies once you start raping.
I'm sorry if I missed stuff, but by all means, don't hesitate to talk about it here and help other Protoss players out with this matchup. Again, thanks to everyone for constructive criticism and compliments, it means a lot! =D
Haha good point there -_-
But next time make sure you put lots of ^_^ ^^;;; :O :D next time you put something sarcastic haha
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fana i dont even remember playing you
i lost that one though?
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On October 24 2007 12:47 Pressure wrote: fana i dont even remember playing you
i lost that one though?
Well obviously.
He has 4 Dragoons, you apparently had nothing left, and the replay was almost done.
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