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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 17 2009 01:32 GMT
#61
Why was this bumped?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 17 2009 01:40 GMT
#62
On January 17 2009 10:07 liger13 wrote:
lol nice.. its good to know protoss have a hard time in TvP as well


They doesn't! 1a2a3a
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 01:55:46
January 17 2009 01:55 GMT
#63
On January 17 2009 10:32 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Why was this bumped?

I dunno, but it's a really helpful guide.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 17 2009 03:54 GMT
#64
On January 17 2009 10:55 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 10:32 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Why was this bumped?

I dunno, but it's a really helpful guide.

Actually no..its well written but outdated, vague, and has lots of bad advice But oh well.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 17 2009 04:11 GMT
#65
On January 17 2009 12:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 10:55 motbob wrote:
On January 17 2009 10:32 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Why was this bumped?

I dunno, but it's a really helpful guide.

Actually no..its well written but outdated, vague, and has lots of bad advice But oh well.
It's well written and a very funny read. I'm very happy it got bumped. Screenshots are amazing. :-)
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
January 17 2009 04:45 GMT
#66
On January 17 2009 10:40 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 10:07 liger13 wrote:
lol nice.. its good to know protoss have a hard time in TvP as well


They doesn't! 1a2a3a


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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
January 17 2009 09:05 GMT
#67
14 CC lawl made my day
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 17 2009 10:39 GMT
#68
Hmm, I think its actually recommended to bump strategy threads if you have a question or something, but this was bumped for props, nice.

And yeah, its hard to play PvT at times too, we can't always go 1a2a3a or else our units walk in a death march.
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NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 11:11:36
January 17 2009 11:10 GMT
#69
Protoss can have a hard time in PvT too, but only compared to other Protoss player. Terrans are playing on a whole other level even though they are the same rank and the same mu.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
January 17 2009 12:01 GMT
#70
On January 17 2009 20:10 NotSupporting wrote:
Protoss can have a hard time in PvT too, but only compared to other Protoss player. Terrans are playing on a whole other level even though they are the same rank and the same mu.


Oh god... I don't even want to reply to this post anymore.
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 17 2009 14:39 GMT
#71
On January 17 2009 20:10 NotSupporting wrote:
Protoss can have a hard time in PvT too, but only compared to other Protoss player. Terrans are playing on a whole other level even though they are the same rank and the same mu.


This is very true at the levels up to C-. At the D+ level a protoss actually win over a terran unless their mineral goes over 3000. A 2000 mineral toss can defeat a 100 mineral terran because the terrans doesn't have the perfect pushing micro and the multitasking yet (harass, defend and push at the same time)
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HooHa!
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States688 Posts
January 17 2009 14:46 GMT
#72
This is awesome.
Hoo Ra!
CosmicAC
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States238 Posts
January 22 2009 04:05 GMT
#73
great guide, very helpful.
To follow the path: look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 23 2009 02:08 GMT
#74
Ugh I wish Terran-players in this thread would go cry in some TvP guide about how "hard" TvP is and how "easy" PvT is.

This guide helped me out alot back in the day, very entertaining.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
January 23 2009 02:29 GMT
#75
that was looonnnnng lol gj tho
the throws never bothered me anyway
Jakustodus123
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1 Post
March 24 2009 02:10 GMT
#76
K so really helpful but i was wondering if you've ever encountered / know how to deal with terran who does total turtle like goes for siege first and lines the cliffs of his base with tanks and turrets then macros wraiths until he has like 24 then goes to nukes and BCs depending on the map.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17069 Posts
March 24 2009 02:38 GMT
#77
It's impossible to fight against 24 Wraiths. You should've given up before he got nukes.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 24 2009 02:45 GMT
#78
On March 24 2009 11:10 Jakustodus123 wrote:
K so really helpful but i was wondering if you've ever encountered / know how to deal with terran who does total turtle like goes for siege first and lines the cliffs of his base with tanks and turrets then macros wraiths until he has like 24 then goes to nukes and BCs depending on the map.

get every other base on the map, then go arb/storm/giganticassarmy
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Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
March 24 2009 02:47 GMT
#79
On October 23 2007 13:42 GrandInquisitor wrote:
You need to explain the difference between arbs and carriers - how arbiters kick in wayyyy faster (ALWAYS ALWAYS RESEARCH STASIS FIRST AND IMMEDIATELY) but rarely have the potential for super mass ownage like carriers. Recent trends of 2 stargate arb though are kinda changing that.

and corsairs are totally viable in pvt =( dweb owns


This is wrong. You should get ENERGY while your first arb(s) build, then start stasis immediately afterward.
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
March 24 2009 04:20 GMT
#80
o.o guide are double edge weapons , now i know how to device better
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