• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:34
CEST 16:34
KST 23:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced53BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ"
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? BW General Discussion Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11 US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 701 users

! [G] W.T.F. - A PvT Guide - Page 5

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
March 24 2009 05:26 GMT
#81
On March 24 2009 11:10 Jakustodus123 wrote:
K so really helpful but i was wondering if you've ever encountered / know how to deal with terran who does total turtle like goes for siege first and lines the cliffs of his base with tanks and turrets then macros wraiths until he has like 24 then goes to nukes and BCs depending on the map.


troll
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 24 2009 07:13 GMT
#82
On March 24 2009 11:10 Jakustodus123 wrote:
K so really helpful but i was wondering if you've ever encountered / know how to deal with terran who does total turtle like goes for siege first and lines the cliffs of his base with tanks and turrets then macros wraiths until he has like 24 then goes to nukes and BCs depending on the map.

IIRC, there's a guide for PvT against a Turtle.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
April 13 2009 01:55 GMT
#83
You have balls the size of jackfruits-- it's time to use them


LOL
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-13 03:23:05
April 13 2009 03:02 GMT
#84
I must admit I overlooked this guide at first becuase it seemed too general and had joking tone at times. But, this is probably the best pvt guide out there. Not that there are an abundant amount of good ones of course.

The replays the guy included were generally good example reps and stood to show the guy knew what he was talking about. Nonetheless, take for instance his analysis of bisu vs nada @longinus which is so wrong I thought he must be talking about a diffrent game (which would be bisu vs nada on reverse LT, but bisu goes 1gaterangerobo then 2ndgate that game):
"The second Bisu vs Nada replay is just what happens when a small M/M force is pushing out instead of something you'd normally expect; but note how completely and utterly ownage a 2 gate/range is. You're pretty safe from any bullshit a Terran can do, period."
First he calls fd terran "a small m/m force". Also, bisu did go 2gate range, but it was more of the fake sort as he expoed after only 3 goons. So the lesson here is not that 2gate range is "ownage", but that you can fight off weak fd with small amount of goons and have an earlier expo advantage. Imagine fake 2gate vs a strong FD build now-a-days. Either way he is wrong or confused =/.
| www.ArtofProtoss.vze.com |
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
April 13 2009 04:05 GMT
#85
is your name peter by any chance?

nice simple .... language guide
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
StalkerSC
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada378 Posts
April 30 2009 14:51 GMT
#86
Lol scouts are gooder then corsairs if you can afford them ( in game not in real life ) good statergy.
IIf your good at Starcraft, Your good at life. - Artosis
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
April 30 2009 16:45 GMT
#87
On April 30 2009 23:51 StalkerSC wrote:
Lol scouts are gooder then corsairs if you can afford them ( in game not in real life ) good statergy.


epic post
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
April 30 2009 16:59 GMT
#88
How come this awesome awesome awesome guide only has 5 pages!!! Moar!!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
koubaros
Profile Joined October 2009
Greece19 Posts
October 25 2009 19:20 GMT
#89
replay pack not there, could some1 post it again? a n00b is asking!!!
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
October 25 2009 19:27 GMT
#90
On October 26 2009 04:20 koubaros wrote:
replay pack not there, could some1 post it again? a n00b is asking!!!


welcome to TL

a bump for many generations to come!
☆★☆ 7486!!! Join the Ban mOnion Anti-Trolling Initiative! - Caller | "on a scale of machine to 10, how bad is that Zerg?" - LZgamer | you are the new tl.net bonjwa monion, congrats - Rekrul | "Cheeseburgers dynamite lilacs" - Chill
frozenkatkiller
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States168 Posts
October 25 2009 20:08 GMT
#91
On October 26 2009 04:20 koubaros wrote:
replay pack not there, could some1 post it again? a n00b is asking!!!


I have the pack, how should I send it to you?
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
October 25 2009 20:19 GMT
#92
Ahhh, I remember this guide. Helpfull and awesome to read too.
koubaros
Profile Joined October 2009
Greece19 Posts
October 25 2009 21:28 GMT
#93
okoubaros@gmail.com and a million thanks to you!

[

QUOTE]On October 26 2009 05:08 frozenkatkiller wrote:
On October 26 2009 04:20 koubaros wrote:
replay pack not there, could some1 post it again? a n00b is asking!!!


I have the pack, how should I send it to you?[/QUOTE]
Old Sagat
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States42 Posts
March 31 2010 17:59 GMT
#94
I have a quick question. I tend to go to fast DTs against Terran. Usually, I'll try to get two DTs and a shuttle and drop in their mineral line. My question is when I should be dropping my pylon/gas/gate. Currently, I'm going pylon on the seventh physical SCV, then gateway at nine, and assimilator as soon as I can get it after that. I send the probe that drops the pylon to scout. Is this a good build order, or is there something else I should consider. I've tried waiting for the assimilator, but the fast gas really helps get the DTs out quicker. I can post replays if needed.

Thanks
if it isn't obvious, the above is a post I made to TL
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
March 31 2010 18:42 GMT
#95
- Start with 4 Probes
- As soon as your 7th Probe comes out (food count should be 8/9) make your Pylon
- Scout with the Probe that just built the Pylon

BISU STLYE
- Stop Probes for a brief second at 9/9 and once 9/17 build Gateway

STORK STYLE
- Keep pumping Probes and build Gateway at 9/17 (slightly later Gateway production because 10th Probe was queued before Gateway)

- Gas at 11/17
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
March 31 2010 19:18 GMT
#96
On April 01 2010 03:42 kOre wrote:
- Start with 4 Probes
- As soon as your 7th Probe comes out (food count should be 8/9) make your Pylon
- Scout with the Probe that just built the Pylon

BISU STLYE
- Stop Probes for a brief second at 9/9 and once 9/17 build Gateway

STORK STYLE
- Keep pumping Probes and build Gateway at 9/17 (slightly later Gateway production because 10th Probe was queued before Gateway)

- Gas at 11/17

this made my day. lol
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
March 31 2010 20:27 GMT
#97
Oh no! I can't download the rep pack anymore. Does anybody have it/can reupload it?
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
radiumz0rz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States253 Posts
March 31 2010 21:09 GMT
#98
Wow. Comprehensive guide is saying the least. Some of your concepts are non-standard like the corsairs, making it much less viable when playing.
Berkeley '10
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
March 31 2010 21:38 GMT
#99
On April 01 2010 05:27 love1another wrote:
Oh no! I can't download the rep pack anymore. Does anybody have it/can reupload it?

The reps are pretty outdated. The guide is still good though. Really funny and informational. Perhaps my fav guide. lol

reps: http://rapidshare.com/files/370492640/WTF.rar.html
gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
March 31 2010 22:28 GMT
#100
TeamLiquid has become a huge Nostalgia fest all of a sudden lol... I remember this thread so clearly now!
but really, has anyone REALLY been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
14:00
Playoff - Day 2/2 - Final
Mihu vs FengziLIVE!
Dewalt vs BonythLIVE!
ZZZero.O167
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .288
mcanning 56
ProTech45
MindelVK 42
ForJumy 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 92080
Calm 5451
Mini 1242
Horang2 1071
EffOrt 725
BeSt 607
Stork 478
ggaemo 466
firebathero 317
Larva 299
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 295
Mong 291
hero 247
ZZZero.O 154
Leta 118
Zeus 99
TY 97
ToSsGirL 91
Sea.KH 37
Sharp 16
Terrorterran 14
Noble 12
NaDa 4
Dota 2
qojqva3185
Gorgc3013
XcaliburYe400
420jenkins290
League of Legends
Reynor0
Counter-Strike
fl0m804
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor362
Liquid`Hasu277
Other Games
B2W.Neo1097
DeMusliM708
Happy229
mouzStarbuck193
ArmadaUGS60
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV26
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Gemini_19 105
• davetesta48
• Berry_CruncH38
• Reevou 13
• Dystopia_ 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV780
League of Legends
• Jankos1816
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
1h 27m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
20h 27m
OSC
1d 9h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.