EPT8 rax = cheese? - Page 6
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FortuneSyn
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n3m0
Portugal247 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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love1another
United States1844 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.scriptoriumdaily.com/disjectamembra/wp-content/photos/cheese_oh_cheese.jpg) :D | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On December 22 2009 09:09 Cloud wrote: I don't really care about calling it cheese or not. Everyone has their own definition of it. But seriously, there is nothing comparable in zerg build orders that is as gay as 8 rax into a fast vulture. You gotta pull your drones to defend and somehow get that sunken up in time and afford early den and lair because you have no clue of what the terran is doing and he easily dictates the game. Surely that is pretty damn gay for a build that just requires cutting on a couple scvs. Can't you scout with drone/overlord? | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
On December 22 2009 07:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: So 12 hatch in ZvZ is cheese? You might have something different in mind, but the definition you gave is retarded. With my definition, yes, I consider it cheesy. I was actually thinking more of this today when I was bored. In the way I see things, any type of strategy or tactic that is used by you with my earlier definiton which is not being forced on you. So play along, a Terran is pushing your third expansion (Protoss), and you think that if you all-in counter his natural, you might be able to turn the tide. I don't think this is cheesy due to the fact that the Terran was pretty much placed into the situation by the flow of the game. Now this is coming from someone who loves to cheese, and tells his teammates to cheese him and all-in him more often in practice games. I hate people who cry about being cheesed (I used to be one of them), but now it's just annoying for me to read ;___; Just practice more against them and get better at defending/reading opponents :D So does anyone else think my definitions are reasonable? o__o;; | ||
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GW.Methos
United States249 Posts
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KingV
United States97 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On December 20 2009 09:33 sS.NuB wrote: Ok so if you intend to do a probe drop on a terrans SCV's and you don't lose the shuttle but you lose 2 probes 30 minutes in game its hard to recover from that? Did you have an actual point or do you just love nitpicking and thinking you've proven someone else's point wrong? I think it's obvious what I'm saying here. It's called common sense and inference. Use it. Edit: seeing that you're banned, guess you didnt'. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17733 Posts
On December 21 2009 11:42 ArvickHero wrote: I say we stop using the word "cheese" and start using the phrase "strategic play" like the Koreans to describe any non-management type of strategy. koreans have a word for cheese too. | ||
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avaTar[
Mexico301 Posts
On December 19 2009 14:38 789 wrote: I ...Funny thing is they yell at terrans for turtling, and then when they do an aggressive opening its cheese.... How else is terran supposed to punish the other races for 12 pool/12 nexus. Completely agree on that mate, Z and P has a lot of cheese options and us terrans got only BBS and maybe proxy fac on their main or something.  and still they complain. | ||
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
The "normal" 3 tank 1 vessel m&m push is just another attack timing, if you don't do damage you'll fall behind, not much different. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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13ThirtySeven
99 Posts
On December 19 2009 13:06 DJONES wrote: 2-3 marines, and 1-2 scvs are at his base before the spawning pool finishes. Unless Z opens 9 pool. | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On December 22 2009 16:15 checo wrote: If zergs would stop tryng to 12 hatch all the time they wouldn't even mind 8rax.... greedy bastards If Terrans would stop 12 raxing all the time, they wouldn't even mind 4 pools. /sarcasm off, 12 Hatch is necessary for zergs to stay on economic par with terrans. | ||
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ftb
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Hillarious pissed off terran player: ![[image loading]](http://www.repdepot.net/img/thumbs/27034.jpg) | ||
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Piste
6183 Posts
On December 22 2009 13:35 avaTar[ wrote: Completely agree on that mate, Z and P has a lot of cheese options and us terrans got only BBS and maybe proxy fac on their main or something. and still they complain.ehh terrans have as many "cheeses", it's just that most terrans only knows how to go 1rax cc in TvZ / 1fac cc in TvP->turtle, and then complain if other players wants to be agressive and not to die to boredom. | ||
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Weryeery
288 Posts
On December 22 2009 13:35 avaTar[ wrote: Completely agree on that mate, Z and P has a lot of cheese options and us terrans got only BBS and maybe proxy fac on their main or something. and still they complain.Z dont have cheese option, they have allin builds. that means if the aggression fail its over you can leave. Whats magical with T and P is they have builds that are as deadly than Z allin but even if it miserably fail you can still recover. | ||
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