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REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
January 09 2009 19:06 GMT
#101
On January 10 2009 03:25 freelander wrote:
I don't recommend choosing terran as a first race.
Good luck!

She already saw a boxer VOD your effort is futile.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 09 2009 19:07 GMT
#102
If you can get to the point where you can beat a computer, that's actually pretty good. That signifies that you have timing, and a build order that you can execute. After you have 1 build order that you can use against a computer, try to get more than one BO put together.

Watching vods will help you understand what makes everyone here so passionate about the game (especially the highlight reels). After you get some understanding of the game, you'll understand why:

The bisu build is such a big deal
Boxer is a god (He's the chuck norris of SC)
To get to the current level of good play you stand on the shoulders of giants
etc.

I've been following this game for about 3 years, and you keep finding new things in it. Don't get discouraged by not being very good at playing- I'm still not any good.

have fun in the community as well. It's a fun place to be, ad we tend to be friendly. mostly.
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-09 19:37:02
January 09 2009 19:36 GMT
#103
I scanned through your posts here to see if you stated what race you want to play but didn't see anything.

I'm a C- protoss on iccup (if no one has explained this to you before, on iccup you start with 1000 points as D, and every 1000 points you raise in level, so like 2000 points is D+, 3000 is C-, and with each higher letter (not including minuses and plusses), it gets harder to stay at that level because you lose more points when you lose and you don't get as many points when you win).

I always enjoy teaching people, and you would be a fresh change from my friends that I always try to teach who are really reluctant to play the game because they hate losing so much.

I have a microphone and ventrilo, and if you want, I'll do multiple training sessions with you, but my requirement is that you have a microphone and install ventrilo. Teaching is really hard when you have to type everything you want to say. I've found it's soooo much easier if I can talk. There's so much to explain and teach, and it goes by pretty fast. It would take forever to type it all out.

If you have a microphone and you're interested, shoot me a PM. I have my own ventrilo server, so all you need is a microphone.

If not, or if you aren't planning on playing protoss, good luck with your learning
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
ExaltedElegance
Profile Joined December 2008
United States81 Posts
January 09 2009 19:37 GMT
#104
On January 10 2009 03:28 kidd wrote:
random dude posts this : 5 repsones tops
random girl with pictures and myspace in quote : 5 pages

The best way to learn any game is just to play it. Figure out what you did wrong, watch replays and repeat. If you are good at other games then it should be second nature to at least be "decent" at this.

Random Girl that is a professional gamer in her own right and is endorsed by Incontrol.
True beauty is micro in Starcraft.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 09 2009 19:54 GMT
#105
Seems to me that most of the people that I know that started playing late in this game all wanted to quit after a few weeks. The general sense of thinking everyone is better then you and getting use to the control of the game not only that but the speed of the game. The best advice I would give to you is just to stick with it until you find your comfort zone.

Good luck.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Wotans_Fire
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-09 20:21:27
January 09 2009 20:13 GMT
#106
I started playing starcraft around 2 months ago. I watched some pro matches on youtube and decided to download the game (I tried the demo on my windows95)

I don't recommend doing the single player although that is up to you. I personally just started playing against the computer for a while until that was too easy. Then go on battle net and be prepared to feel demotivated.

Oh and Protoss is the easiest. Use hotkeys..



[mod edit: do NOT post cd keys here]

http://www.iccup.com/files/view/BWRepinfo.html
"OMG this is pivotal!" ~ Tasteless "Indeed" ~ Artosis
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
January 09 2009 20:20 GMT
#107
On January 10 2009 03:28 kidd wrote:
random dude posts this : 5 repsones tops
random girl with pictures and myspace in quote : 5 pages

The best way to learn any game is just to play it. Figure out what you did wrong, watch replays and repeat. If you are good at other games then it should be second nature to at least be "decent" at this.

Actually, oddly enough a random dude posted this less than 2 weeks ago and got 9 pages. Very unusual for TL, must just be the Christmas spirit. :p
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
January 09 2009 20:39 GMT
#108
On January 10 2009 05:20 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2009 03:28 kidd wrote:
random dude posts this : 5 repsones tops
random girl with pictures and myspace in quote : 5 pages

The best way to learn any game is just to play it. Figure out what you did wrong, watch replays and repeat. If you are good at other games then it should be second nature to at least be "decent" at this.

Actually, oddly enough a random dude posted this less than 2 weeks ago and got 9 pages. Very unusual for TL, must just be the Christmas spirit. :p


Hahaha, both of you have very good points. I didn't even realize she was a girl at first. Go me?
Chains none
G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
January 09 2009 20:44 GMT
#109
Recommendation:

1. Play through campaign. It'll teach you all the basics, etc. I played through the original SC and then Brood War when I was first starting, but you may want to jump right into Brood War. My recommendation is to start with the original SC campaign since it's much easier than Brood War Campaign. The Brood War campaign isn't exactly that hard for veteran players, but for players who just start out it may present a challenge if you jump right in it. The Brood War campaign is designed, after all, for players who have already beaten the original SC.

2. Play a few games against the CPU. Not too many. The computer will quickly become too easy, especially if you have already beaten the campaign.

3. Play a few games. My recommendation is not to play fastest or Big Game Hunters maps if you want to play competitively, as those maps are nothing like the actual maps that competitive players play on, though they can be entertaining. Play each race and get a feel for which one you are most comfortable with. Each one has pros and cons which you will have to learn. The game itself is like chess, but in real time, and there is a lot of strategy and techniques to learn. If you want to be really good, expect to put in a lot of hours and a lot of time into the game.

Also, watch a lot of pro players play. If you want, you can watch English commentaries of games, which may help you if you're just starting out. Most english commentators won't go too indepth in strategy, but they will point out basic techniques that you can use. You can search for english commentaries on Youtube. CholeraSC is one youtube commentator who's pretty good, and though I think his commentaries aren't the best for learning in depth Starcraft they're good for learning the basics of the game. Also, Tasteless is another good commentator. You can watch his games on gomtv.netYou want to observe the strategies the pros use.

Also, get a friend to help you. Once you've beaten campaign, played a few games online, and have a good feel for the controls, you still probably won't have a very good grasp of exact strategies and tactics, etc. These have to be learned. I would recommend playing with a friend who is better than you and is willing to play with you. Play a few games with them, and have them watch the replay of the game with you and point out your flaws. You will improve much more quickly if you do this. A good teacher can teach you techniques and strategies in a short time that would normally take much longer to learn on your own through trial and error. Expect to lose a lot in the beginning but get better and better gradually.

The Emperor - The Genius - The Cheater - The Maestro
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
January 09 2009 20:51 GMT
#110
Also, buy a TL shirt: http://www.teamliquid.net/store/
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 09 2009 21:15 GMT
#111
On January 10 2009 05:51 SonuvBob wrote:
Also, buy a TL shirt tank top: http://www.teamliquid.net/store/

fixed ~_~;;;;;;;;;
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
January 09 2009 21:26 GMT
#112
and post pics obv
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
demonic_phate
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-09 22:28:14
January 09 2009 21:45 GMT
#113
I would advize (like almost everyone else) playing the campaign first. Then move onto 1v1's w/ the comp and maybe 1v2's. This will help you get a feel for the game, the timings and units without really having to worry about complex builds and high apm. It's like chess. If you don't know the rules of the game, what's the point in learning all the openings, defenses, gambits and what not? Also, don't get discouraged if you lose because it happens to everyone. Hell, I first started I got raped by comps every time I played (although I was 6 or 7)
/crappy advice from D-------------- protoss
BusyP
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 09 2009 21:47 GMT
#114
On January 10 2009 06:26 CTStalker wrote:
and post pics obv


profile has 1
demonic_phate
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States442 Posts
January 09 2009 21:56 GMT
#115
On January 10 2009 06:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2009 06:26 CTStalker wrote:
and post pics obv


profile has 1

as does the myspace profile
BusyP
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-09 22:23:39
January 09 2009 22:22 GMT
#116
On January 10 2009 03:28 kidd wrote:
random dude posts this : 5 repsones tops
random girl with pictures and myspace in quote : 5 pages

The best way to learn any game is just to play it. Figure out what you did wrong, watch replays and repeat. If you are good at other games then it should be second nature to at least be "decent" at this.

A girl whose important enough for inc to tell us to fuck off of. IDk who the hell she is tho.

EDIT: I think no one would have realized she was except for inc's post -_-;
#1 Recommendation is to get a teacher. After your decently comfortable with the units a teacher will help you SO much. My little brother was mine...until I got online. It was good fun back in the day.

A teacher is hard to find because they have to be able to put up with your noobiness, but they can be SO beneficial. also they don't really have to be all that pro. Even a D+ or C- will look godly to you.

Stop calling people 1337
Liquid | SKT
vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
January 09 2009 22:33 GMT
#117
Definitely play through both the original and brood war campaigns. They cover the basics: the races, the units, the resources, the tech trees, etc. Also, you get a pretty decent storyline wrapping it all up. Keep in mind though it's nothing like multiplayer.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I would recommend playing the computer. playing against the computer is in multiplayer is very different than playing a human in multiplayer. Too many times have I practiced my PvZ (protoss vs. zerg) against the computer, winning with nothing but zealots, then playing my D- friend and being owned when he gets mutalisks. The other issue with the computer AI is there are several levels. after you start to get the hang of multiplayer, you'll find out the easiest AI is too easy to practice against (only sends a few waves of units then stops doing anything but mining) and the hardest is a total bitch. However, the computer can be good for finding a basic build order, but that's something you can also get by playing other newbies or asking someone else to help you.

As a clarinet player, I have to make the analogy to learning to play an instrument. Sure, you can learn yourself, but in most cases, it's faster and easier to get someone to teach you. Find a practice buddy, preferably in real life, but someone from the TL community is fine as well. Play against them, then watch the replays after the game. Look for things you can do better. I won't go into too much detail about what to look for now, but there's a couple of threads available about that.

Even though half of TL has already offered to play against you, it won't hurt if I offer as well. I am vAltyR on iccup, feel free to add me as a friend or PM me if you want to play. Best of luck to you.
내 호버크라프트는 장어로 가득 차 있어요
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-10 00:23:54
January 10 2009 00:20 GMT
#118
On January 10 2009 03:28 kidd wrote:
random dude posts this : 5 repsones tops
random girl with pictures and myspace in quote : 5 pages

The best way to learn any game is just to play it. Figure out what you did wrong, watch replays and repeat. If you are good at other games then it should be second nature to at least be "decent" at this.


its not because shes a girl. At least thats not why I'm doing it. Its because shes a competitive gamer who actually sounds interested in putting in the effort to learn the game and become good at it, and she can help represent starcraft to the other communities if she enjoys it.

TL isn't going to waste 5 pages on some random noob (guy or girl) who is probably just going to give up and play mario or UMS or something. The are tons of noobs who make threads saing I'm a noob, need help and then just dont ever really put in the time. So I need something special for me to put in the effort.

In this case, I doing it for incontrol, to show a competitive player from another field not just how to play starcraft, but why its important and why it should be appreciated, and I can be a bit more certain shes not going to play 2 games and give up easily unless it really isnt her type of game.

This might not seem important, but when you realize how much the success of a game as an e-sport depends on the number of fans watching it, you'll realize how important to get influential or semi-influential people in the community aware of starcraft. Not saying shes on the same level of notoriety or anywhere close, but it was absolutely huge when jeremy from purepwnage started talking about park jung suk and the golden mouse and how awesome starcraft is, just like it would be huge if a top counterstrike player made a blog about starcraft.

so yeah, I mean one person isnt going to do all that much, but if we want broodwar (or any of its successors) to have a shot to become a serious e-sport outside of korea/china we have to get more people involved.

Again, I'm not saying shes Heaton or moon or purepwnage or anything, but I think we should help out

edit: to condense that down, really I'm just doing it because inc invited her here and I dont want us to come off as one of those shitty communities.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 10 2009 00:56 GMT
#119
I will get you to D+ in 3 months if you promise sex.

(that's what everyone here really wants to say but are shy)
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
January 10 2009 01:21 GMT
#120
On January 10 2009 06:15 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2009 05:51 SonuvBob wrote:
Also, buy a TL shirt tank top: http://www.teamliquid.net/store/

fixed ~_~;;;;;;;;;



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