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Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 16:49 GMT
#1
Hey everyone.
I've had StarCraft for some time but I always used to be more interested in UMS maps. Fairly recently I became more interested in playing melees. One of my friends has been attempting to help me get better but to no avail.
I have difficulty with basics in the later game such as keeping worker production up, scouting, pumping units, and teching up. I seem to have issues with multitasking in generally; I can really focus on attacking, but then my production and economy dry up.
I play games with my friend, but he only manages to beat the utter shit out of me with simple strategies such as DT rushes or Reaver drops and I don't learn anything from the games I play with him.
If anyone would be willing to help, I'd be incredibly grateful.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
December 28 2008 16:53 GMT
#2
LOL
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 16:54:33
December 28 2008 16:54 GMT
#3
Try Strategy(forum section below), but POST A REPLAY


on second thought you're better of in Blogs
chiflutz
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania1025 Posts
December 28 2008 16:54 GMT
#4
Aside from this being in the general forum... provide some reps.
kt violet Korea (South). July 27 2012 15:54. Posts 23
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 16:56 GMT
#5
On December 29 2008 01:54 chiflutz wrote:
Aside from this being in the general forum... provide some reps.

I don't know where it should go, and I dont know how to "provide some reps."
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
December 28 2008 16:58 GMT
#6
On December 29 2008 01:56 Shadow-Mage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 01:54 chiflutz wrote:
Aside from this being in the general forum... provide some reps.

I don't know where it should go, and I dont know how to "provide some reps."


You upload them and you share the download link.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 17:01 GMT
#7
Okay... I don't know how to upload them. I'm COMPLETELY new to this site. This is, pretty much, my first time doing anything on the site.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
December 28 2008 17:01 GMT
#8
Check out these threads (and the links contained within them):

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60601
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60175

Also, begin reading up a lot of what the Strategy Forum has to offer, especially for your specific race that you've chosen to play.

For providing people with replays, first save the replay (obviously) and then upload it to one of these sites:

http://battlereports.com/

or another that other people would suggest (I can't remember the name, sorry!). Good luck on your quest to getting better!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
December 28 2008 17:01 GMT
#9
seems you should get some basic knowledge of the game before you run and ask help in forums. Try the game manual or the single player campaign ;P
The artist formerly known as Starparty
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
December 28 2008 17:03 GMT
#10
read guides in the strategy section, download some replays from good players. Save your replays and watch what you do wrong, focus on one race and learn some build orders. Play a lot with some players like you (create noobs only games on wherever you play), and remember to enjoy the game. Where do you play?
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 17:08 GMT
#11
On December 29 2008 02:01 Starparty wrote:
seems you should get some basic knowledge of the game before you run and ask help in forums. Try the game manual or the single player campaign ;P

I've done that, I've beat the Original campaign, but Broodwar just can't seem to hold my attention. Not sure why...

On December 29 2008 02:03 malongo wrote:
read guides in the strategy section, download some replays from good players. Save your replays and watch what you do wrong, focus on one race and learn some build orders. Play a lot with some players like you (create noobs only games on wherever you play), and remember to enjoy the game. Where do you play?

I've done all of that. I watch commentary on YouTube and I've learned alot from those. I know what I do wrong, I focus on terran and I know build orders. I just can't do the basic stuff.
slained
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada966 Posts
December 28 2008 17:12 GMT
#12
change your attitude.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
December 28 2008 17:14 GMT
#13
Not too sure about your problem but, again where do you play? can you beat the computer 1v1 on meele? how long do you take? At least that should give a reference.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
December 28 2008 17:15 GMT
#14
His name says enough

If you want help, you should try the strategy section, memorize some basic BO's or give us some replays so we can givee you tips

Hope this helps

Oh and also, massplay with your friend (if he's any good he'll teach you the basics)
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 17:16 GMT
#15
On December 29 2008 02:14 malongo wrote:
Not too sure about your problem but, again where do you play? can you beat the computer 1v1 on meele? how long do you take? At least that should give a reference.

USEast, and I can beat a comp very easily. It can take me anywhere from 20-40 minutes if I'm not doing some sort of odd rush.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17542 Posts
December 28 2008 17:37 GMT
#16
20-40 minutes vs comp... I think you should first work on that, then proceed to learn more
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 17:43 GMT
#17
My problem isn't knowing stuff. I know how to play. I just can't physically or mentally do it! I can't have my attention on both my attacking group, my factories, and my worker line.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
December 28 2008 17:44 GMT
#18
Watch replays of decent players:

Watch commentated FPVODs:
Z: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=63621
T: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84835 http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/merz
P: http://www.teamliquid.net/tracker/details.php?info_hash=53b07a6285aea5484812dd091e94c4398b22ae48
P/Z: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84505

Learn the basic build orders

Play against people who are slightly better than you.

Then come back and crush your friend. :p
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
December 28 2008 17:46 GMT
#19
On December 29 2008 02:43 Shadow-Mage wrote:
My problem isn't knowing stuff. I know how to play. I just can't physically or mentally do it! I can't have my attention on both my attacking group, my factories, and my worker line.

It mostly comes with playing a lot, though if you specifically practice that it'll come faster. Might be best to practice in a no-pressure situation (not vs a person) like BlueIris's training exercise.
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Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 17:46 GMT
#20
You guys aren't getting it. I KNOW build orders, I CAN do them. It's just everything turns to shit when I have to build my economy, an army, and attack at the same time.
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