Newb in need of help. - Page 8

b3h47pte

United States1317 Posts

December 29 2008 17:35 GMT

#141

On December 30 2008 00:30 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:
I'm really curious what happened to SeeD though.

The guy who controlled the bot had to go to mandatory military service and then everything fell apart from there.

And at OP, you shouldn't try to start a clan at your level, you should try to join a clan, and then get better before trying to start your own clan (in my opinion).

Shadow-Mage

United States49 Posts

December 29 2008 18:25 GMT

#142

It's not really starting a clan, per se. It's getting my clan to start supporting StarCraft. I honestly don't know why we don't have it. Probably cause we're more focused on FPS's and such.

DanceCommander

United States1808 Posts

December 29 2008 18:55 GMT

#143

On December 30 2008 01:26 Shadow-Mage wrote:
I'd just like to apologize to everyone. I really am sorry for upsetting anyone. I'm quite new to this community and hopefully I'll figure out the proper way to act as time passes. I didn't mean to come off as arrogant or as an asshole. I knew it would take work to become better, but I suppose I just didn't realize how much work it will take. I shouldn't have for taken your guys' advice for granted since, obviously, you are all FAR more experienced that I am. Once again, I am sorry and I hope we can all just leave my attitude in the past and forget about it.

Also, I would also like to thank everyone who honestly tried to help me. I posted this thread thinking there might be some semi-magical way to get better faster. Apparently there is no magical method (possibly aside from BlueIris's training exercise. Thanks SonuvBob!) and just playing and practicing the basics are the best things I can really do at this point. (Since I barely understand what happens in replays.)

On a side note, can anyone give me an estimated rate of progress I can expect for practicing for X amount of time over Y period of days? Is it enough to practice for 1 hour a week, or 2 hours a week, or 1 hour a day, etc?
Thanks again!

Well it took me about 3 years of recreational playing (fastest maps, UMS, occasional LT here and there) and 1 year of hardcore playing (iCCup, clan wars, practice sessions with people) to reach a C- rank. I think the first season of iccup I went like 1-7 before I realized that I sucked. So I joined a clan.

Ask the same question to everyone else here and they will answer somewhere along those lines. You need to find 1 person who is dedicated to playing like 10 games in a row and is somewhere close to your skill level. Trust me, you will feel the improvement.

Shadow-Mage

United States49 Posts

December 29 2008 19:30 GMT

#144

Sadly the only guy I know who is about my skill level isn't too fond of StarCraft.

SilverSkyLark

Philippines8437 Posts

December 30 2008 00:37 GMT

#145

Hmm, I don't think if I should actually recommend this but if you have Garena with you, you can go play in the Philippine StarCraft room. There's a good number of noobs there the last time I checked (which was last night). But since it's our room, don't expect them to speak in english or something, some noobs would be nice enough to PM you and get themselves killed.

But yeah, the best way to improve is to get yourself owned in iCCup. This will be a little hard because your progress will be overshadowed by the skill of other players. Even if you'd get to the basic BO's, basic macro and scouting, you will just win half of your match but at least you will be able to steal some wins now.

And we have the same problem by the way, less practice and playing time because of college, haha.

b3h47pte

United States1317 Posts

December 30 2008 04:43 GMT

#146

I really dont' see the point of getting raped on iCCup continuously unless after each rep you post it on TL.net in the strat section for some review because getting owned and not knowing why is pretty much pointless. Hence why he should join a noob-friendly (but not terrible) clan.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

December 30 2008 05:04 GMT

#147

On December 30 2008 13:43 b3h47pte wrote:
I really dont' see the point of getting raped on iCCup continuously unless after each rep you post it on TL.net in the strat section for some review because getting owned and not knowing why is pretty much pointless. Hence why he should join a noob-friendly (but not terrible) clan.

80% of the people that reply in the threads that ask for help don't even watch the replays.

b3h47pte

United States1317 Posts

December 30 2008 17:04 GMT

#148

Well you'll probably eventually meet someone nice enough to actually watch your rep. There are people who do that :\

ilistis

United States828 Posts

December 30 2008 17:27 GMT

#149

On December 30 2008 03:55 DanceCommander wrote:

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I admire your determination. I played seriously for 1 month and a week I think and reached a solid D around. I could never go past 1500 though. I shouldn't have quit.

RamenStyle

United States1929 Posts

December 30 2008 17:38 GMT

#150

Lol, last time I actively played was when 2rax 1 fac was standard in TvZ.

MiniRoman

Canada3953 Posts

December 30 2008 17:48 GMT

#151

D- iccup should still be lightyears away from him. Your first post said you know what your doing wrong so you have to correct it yourself through a nausiating amount of games. If you manage to fix 1 small mistake everygame then I would say that is amazing improvement. Your problem would be most likely thousands of mistakes in a single 15 minute game. There is no magic way for us to teach you how to constantly make scvs, never miss depots and spend all your money; it's something that you already know how to do and can not be explained further. Feel free to queue 3-4 units if you have the cash and lack the APM but thats as far as our advice can go. You need to play and play and play and remember your faults in your head so you can consciously address them ingame. You need to do that lots and lots until it becomes natural. Playing Starcraft is infinitely harder than watching and following. Your eyes take so many things for granted just remember nothing is automated and you have to do everything yourself. So you always need to be checking up on everything thats yours. And if you havn't scouted/don't know whats going on, then you need to scout. Thats how you learn to scout.

Tenma

Canada93 Posts

December 30 2008 18:31 GMT

#152

HELP!!!
whenever i sign into battle net it gives me this message like
we are sorry we could not identify your aplication. please re install starcraft.
it this problem consists you may have a virus!

Phyre

United States1288 Posts

December 30 2008 18:59 GMT

#153

Starting an SC division inside of his existing clan could be quite productive. Playing with similarly skilled friends that you can mass game with casually is a great thing, keeps it fun. Especially if any of them actually want to seriously get better. If you have a serious partner it's almost like having a work out buddy to help keep you motivated. It can be fun to have a bunch of friends around the same level to share discoveries with as you get better. I remember when I first found out how to drop units from a dropship while moving (click dship, click U, click on dship) and I told my friends it was awesome.

Whenever you guys get stuck you can post reps here and ask for help. If you play against your friends we can help you both at the same time. Just before you go asking for help make sure you've done a little bit of the pre-requisite research into things like build orders. If you're not performing a build order fairly close to intended then coming here to ask for help won't be very lucrative.

NExUS1g

United States254 Posts

December 30 2008 19:29 GMT

#154

Now I haven't read everything, and I'm sorry if someone may have already posted something akin to this. I have certain exercises to help me in playing StarCraft. I start a single-player game; create a probe; move the other four probes so one is at the top of the frame, one at the bottom, and one left and one right; and set my nexus/hatchery/CC to macro 1. Once the 5th probe is complete, I send him to the middle of the other 4. Then I select the probe (single left-clicking only -- no drag box to help accuracy), move it to one of the other 4 probes, press 1 to select the nexus/hatchery/CC then select the moving probe again and moving it to a different probe. The game is to keep the probe moving without stopping.

You can come up with various exercises like this.

Another is moving probes to 4 completely different areas on the map. Set each probe to a hot key. Double-press each hot key and try to keep all the probes moving consistently.

Also, a lot of what I've heard around here is that the progamers spam actions during lull periods in order to keep their minds and hands sharp.

Try coming up with various exercises and use BWchart to keep track of your progress. If you're savvy, make your own map that lets you practice (close off the opponent's base with terrain so the comp can't do anything).

Come up with ideas for exercises like these to help you in your weak spots.

Shadow-Mage

United States49 Posts

December 31 2008 01:20 GMT

#155

Well, I did what several people suggested and I hosted a noobs only game. Unfortunately, I am a noob, but not as much as a noob as those who are drawn in to such games. I'm a noob, but apparently an upper class of noobs, as someone watching the game put it.
I'll see if I can manage to get a replay up for you guys to see. I'm currently having issues with RepDepot. I put in the info, I click submit, and then it takes me to a white page. Can anyone help? Is it because I'm StarCraft 1.16?
Here's the link for the BattleReports.com download. My "Noobs Only" game Note, it IS StarCraft 1.16.0 since I played it on Battle.net.

JMave

Singapore1803 Posts

December 31 2008 02:00 GMT

#156

Hey for some reason, I can't download your replay though. I think fighterreplays.com is a better source to upload reps. But once you upload you gota kinda make it public so we can download. As in they'll give you the option in the website.

And to get better, there's no easy way. Learn build orders and practice. Takes a while to get good. A really long while.

Malongo

Chile3472 Posts

December 31 2008 02:13 GMT

#157

Ok for the last time op: Im offering to coach you to a nice D- on iccup. LOL look for me on iccup.

dhe95

United States1213 Posts

December 31 2008 02:50 GMT

#158

On December 31 2008 11:13 malongo wrote:
Ok for the last time op: Im offering to coach you to a nice D- on iccup. LOL look for me on iccup.

I'll take that :D lmao but seriously, right now i'm like 1-4 or somethin and that 1 win was a against a D- Protoss =P (He built 1 gate in his main then did a 2 gate proxy, got gas w/ no core)

Oh and shadow, you had 89 apm that game so psh it's not 50-60. Lol and the other guy had 23. I should make a noobs only game. I feel I seriously need to get a mouse soon.

Shadow-Mage

United States49 Posts

December 31 2008 03:05 GMT

#159

Yeaahh...I guess it's been a while since I've had that low APM. Of course, it probably WAS 50-60 last time I checked. I've not had BW Chart for ages.

Malongo

Chile3472 Posts

December 31 2008 03:10 GMT

#160

im on iccup now ll be there until 2:00 KST