EPTNewb in need of help. - Page 7
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
Just don't get too obsessed with your apm though, since apm is not always proportional to skill, take nal_ra for example. | ||
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Puosu
7088 Posts
I love TL and so should you. <3 | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
On December 29 2008 11:39 Shadow-Mage wrote: I do look at the reasons why I lose. But nothing ever seems to get through my skull. Macro is often one of the biggest reasons I lose, but that can't really be helped. In just about every other instance it's because I forget either my Engineering bay and/or Comsat station. Any advice? I also feel as though helping by relatively small margins would help me learn more. Is that the case? And if so where can I find people around my skill level if not on ICCup. With that "can't be helped attitude" you will get no where. You need to watch pro vods and mass game, no matter if you lose 12341234 times in a row. Pick a strong build order and consciously work on improving your macro, nothing else. Low level games usually come down to who can make more units. You'll eventually pick up a small sense of timings and start winning games. Of course, the other 30 posters in this forum said the same thing, so don't take my word for it. | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On December 29 2008 14:57 LuckyFool wrote: rofl @ posting reps vs comps. This whole thread is lawl. Who are you to be elitist? That's the main problem people from other sites have witht TL.net - our way of looking down on lesser players and acting like we're all that. Sure this guy has some bad attitude, but if I were a mod, I'd seriously consider temp-banning you for obviously trolling a thread like this. How pro where you when you first picked up starcraft? Cut the guy some slack or shut the hell up. | ||
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conCentrate9
United States438 Posts
On December 29 2008 11:39 Shadow-Mage wrote: I do look at the reasons why I lose. But nothing ever seems to get through my skull. Macro is often one of the biggest reasons I lose, but that can't really be helped. In just about every other instance it's because I forget either my Engineering bay and/or Comsat station. Any advice? I also feel as though helping by relatively small margins would help me learn more. Is that the case? And if so where can I find people around my skill level if not on ICCup. Sticky notes on monitor. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
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bLueSkY)
New Zealand88 Posts
ive watched replays B.O's read the threads etc etc but need some sort of training partner or possibly a teacher who wouldnt mind teaching me to D+ max level on ICCUP with protoss. Massing games without the help of a significant other is really not helping per say... thanks. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On December 29 2008 17:24 DanceCommander wrote: This kid comes off to me as an extremely arrogant 12 year old With that "can't be helped attitude" you will get no where. You need to watch pro vods and mass game, no matter if you lose 12341234 times in a row. Pick a strong build order and consciously work on improving your macro, nothing else. Low level games usually come down to who can make more units. You'll eventually pick up a small sense of timings and start winning games. Of course, the other 30 posters in this forum said the same thing, so don't take my word for it. This. Everything can be helped. | ||
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cyronc
218 Posts
so just massgame against people who are slightly above your skill level, that should give you the clues to what you have to improe and thus learn to get better  gl hf | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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b3h47pte
United States1317 Posts
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dhe95
United States1213 Posts
On December 30 2008 00:04 b3h47pte wrote: If you're just first starting, i wouldn't suggest playing 100% iccup because i bet 99% of the people who are D- will easily stomp you. I would instead suggest finding a noob friendly clan on B.NET (get chaoslauncher too) and improve there. If Clan Art or SeeD Clan were still alive i would suggest them but neither are :\ You don't get much anymore with chaoslauncher... just mostly latencychanger. (Unless there's another APM counter that works?) | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Shadow-Mage
United States49 Posts
Also, I would also like to thank everyone who honestly tried to help me. I posted this thread thinking there might be some semi-magical way to get better faster. Apparently there is no magical method (possibly aside from BlueIris's training exercise. Thanks SonuvBob!) and just playing and practicing the basics are the best things I can really do at this point. (Since I barely understand what happens in replays.) On a side note, can anyone give me an estimated rate of progress I can expect for practicing for X amount of time over Y period of days? Is it enough to practice for 1 hour a week, or 2 hours a week, or 1 hour a day, etc? Thanks again! | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On December 29 2008 18:12 GinNtoniC wrote: Who are you to be elitist? That's the main problem people from other sites have witht TL.net - our way of looking down on lesser players and acting like we're all that. Sure this guy has some bad attitude, but if I were a mod, I'd seriously consider temp-banning you for obviously trolling a thread like this. How pro where you when you first picked up starcraft? Cut the guy some slack or shut the hell up. I have absolutely no problems with players looking for help and I'm totally willing to help anyone out. It's the progression of the OP that irked me. He asks for help, that's awesome, then he claims to know builds and know the game so well, yet this is obviously not the case. This is where the problem lies for me. When I first picked up starcraft I wasn't saying to other people that I knew all the builds and what to do... | ||
LosingID8
CA10835 Posts
On December 30 2008 01:26 Shadow-Mage wrote: On a side note, can anyone give me an estimated rate of progress I can expect for practicing for X amount of time over Y period of days? Is it enough to practice for 1 hour a week, or 2 hours a week, or 1 hour a day, etc? Thanks again! if you're just starting out, 1 or 2 hours a week will get you nowhere. you'd have to play a couple hours a day to really get the hang out things. | ||
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Shadow-Mage
United States49 Posts
On December 30 2008 00:04 b3h47pte wrote: If you're just first starting, i wouldn't suggest playing 100% iccup because i bet 99% of the people who are D- will easily stomp you. I would instead suggest finding a noob friendly clan on B.NET (get chaoslauncher too) and improve there. If Clan Art or SeeD Clan were still alive i would suggest them but neither are :\ I'm actually trying to start a StarCraft division in a clan I'm in. StarCraft is such an awsome game, and yet we don't have it, or any RTS for that matter which kinda makes me sad. Only problem is, the only people really interested are worse at melee's than me! Then can't even beat a computer. But that'll change quickly if I can manage to get a play group going. | ||
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Shadow-Mage
United States49 Posts
On December 30 2008 01:28 LuckyFool wrote: I have absolutely no problems with players looking for help and I'm totally willing to help anyone out. It's the progression of the OP that irked me. He asks for help, that's awesome, then he claims to know builds and know the game so well, yet this is obviously not the case. This is where the problem lies for me. When I first picked up starcraft I wasn't saying to other people that I knew all the builds and what to do... I haven't just "picked up starcraft." I've actually been paying attention to pro stuff for a while, and trying to learn some builds. I've had the game for something like 2 years now. On December 30 2008 01:31 LosingID8 wrote: if you're just starting out, 1 or 2 hours a week will get you nowhere. you'd have to play a couple hours a day to really get the hang out things. That might actually abit of a problem, especially when I get back into college. | ||
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dhe95
United States1213 Posts
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