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NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 17:50:15
December 28 2008 17:48 GMT
#21
On December 29 2008 02:43 Shadow-Mage wrote:
My problem isn't knowing stuff. I know how to play. I just can't physically or mentally do it! I can't have my attention on both my attacking group, my factories, and my worker line.


If that is true and you know how to play all you need to do is keep playing...and playing and then play some more and eventually your macro/micro and multitasking will become better.

EDIT:
On December 29 2008 02:46 Shadow-Mage wrote:
You guys aren't getting it. I KNOW build orders, I CAN do them. It's just everything turns to shit when I have to build my economy, an army, and attack at the same time.


Take is easy, this attitude is going to get you nowhere. There is no easy way to learning to play late game, nothing we say here is going to make you any better without you practising. I really question your knowledge about the game tho.
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 17:48 GMT
#22
On December 29 2008 02:46 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 02:43 Shadow-Mage wrote:
My problem isn't knowing stuff. I know how to play. I just can't physically or mentally do it! I can't have my attention on both my attacking group, my factories, and my worker line.

It mostly comes with playing a lot, though if you specifically practice that it'll come faster. Might be best to practice in a no-pressure situation (not vs a person) like BlueIris's training exercise.

Okay, this is something along the lines of what I need.
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 17:49 GMT
#23
On December 29 2008 02:48 NotSupporting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 02:43 Shadow-Mage wrote:
My problem isn't knowing stuff. I know how to play. I just can't physically or mentally do it! I can't have my attention on both my attacking group, my factories, and my worker line.


If that is true and you know how to play all you need to do is keep playing...and playing and then play some more and eventually your macro/micro and multitasking will become better.

The issue is it's not. Atleast not as far as I can see and that just out right pisses me off more than anything else.
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
December 28 2008 17:52 GMT
#24
MASS GAME for experience :D
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 28 2008 18:00 GMT
#25
well if u cant mentally and physically do it just keep repeating it until u get better at controlling ur hands and mind... or wahtever

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Odeur
Profile Joined October 2008
Taiwan58 Posts
December 28 2008 18:02 GMT
#26
you will need time and effort(more games) to physically and mentally do it :o
decembrie
Profile Joined December 2008
93 Posts
December 28 2008 18:03 GMT
#27
On December 29 2008 01:49 Shadow-Mage wrote:
Hey everyone.
I've had StarCraft for some time but I always used to be more interested in UMS maps. Fairly recently I became more interested in playing melees. One of my friends has been attempting to help me get better but to no avail.
I have difficulty with basics in the later game such as keeping worker production up, scouting, pumping units, and teching up. I seem to have issues with multitasking in generally; I can really focus on attacking, but then my production and economy dry up.
I play games with my friend, but he only manages to beat the utter shit out of me with simple strategies such as DT rushes or Reaver drops and I don't learn anything from the games I play with him.
If anyone would be willing to help, I'd be incredibly grateful.



There's nothing anyone here can do to help you impruve multitasking... answer is just practice as much as you can, eventually it will come naturally.
nada.
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 18:11:46
December 28 2008 18:10 GMT
#28
Alright then. Does anyone know of anywhere where I can find people of roughly my skill level to play with?
Oh, and I just beat a computer in roughly 10 minutes. I can post the Replay if anyone wants me to.
Jovan
Profile Joined August 2006
Canada65 Posts
December 28 2008 18:14 GMT
#29
Hey Shadow-Mage.

Everyone is like this when they first start SC out. You will get rolled A LOT because SC's average skill level requires playing playing playing constantly. It's not really something one picks up when they are bored.

Anyhow.

One of the things you can do if you haven't done already is use hotkeys and groups. You can assign buildings to groups as well, so while you are fighting and your eyes are on the battlefield you can press the building's group # and train more units. That's the basics.

You are however better off starting at SCV production. Open up a map and just have two or three bases and train SCVs non stop. When one is finished or near completion order another to be built. As soon as he's made get him mining. Move on from there with assigning individual building orders, etc. Try to do this without having more than one SCV queued up after the current one is about to finish.

Unfortunately as the rest of the people say, it's just time and practice. You'll get used to it and you'll get faster at multitasking too, but you need to play exhaustively.

Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 18:24:19
December 28 2008 18:17 GMT
#30
On December 29 2008 03:10 Shadow-Mage wrote:
Alright then. Does anyone know of anywhere where I can find people of roughly my skill level to play with?
Oh, and I just beat a computer in roughly 10 minutes. I can post the Replay if anyone wants me to.


ICCup D/D- level games, and isn't there some TL.net practice group?

edit: You're American and I don't play this game too much so time zones are probably fucked or I would offer to mass game with you so you get better mechanics for your builds. I think it's just a matter of improving your mechanics through mass playing, whether with a friend or on ICCUP (or even single player, NonY style hahah)
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 18:23:38
December 28 2008 18:22 GMT
#31
On December 29 2008 02:16 Shadow-Mage wrote:
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On December 29 2008 02:14 malongo wrote:
Not too sure about your problem but, again where do you play? can you beat the computer 1v1 on meele? how long do you take? At least that should give a reference.

USEast, and I can beat a comp very easily. It can take me anywhere from 20-40 minutes if I'm not doing some sort of odd rush.

Cute! work on that, the broodwar ai is enough to begin your trainning. work hard on a Bo against it and beat it on 10 min no rush, or 14 Max army.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
December 28 2008 18:23 GMT
#32
On December 29 2008 03:10 Shadow-Mage wrote:
Alright then. Does anyone know of anywhere where I can find people of roughly my skill level to play with?
Oh, and I just beat a computer in roughly 10 minutes. I can post the Replay if anyone wants me to.


Yeah go to iccup but prepare to get rapedddd. I got out of d- but when you start playing high level d like 1500+. They're good but of course this is coming from a D protoss player.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
December 28 2008 18:24 GMT
#33
im on iccup right now, op irc is the practice group.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 18:28 GMT
#34
My SCV production actually has gotten quite good from when I first started and that's not really an issue. Generally I have more resources than I know what to do with. I'll try putting up two of the Vs comps I just did up somewhere. They will probably give a good insight into my current ability.
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
December 28 2008 18:28 GMT
#35
I find that nintu's fpvods on youtube are helpful to know how good players think. he's about b- level.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
December 28 2008 18:30 GMT
#36
go iccup now. im there.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
December 28 2008 18:33 GMT
#37
shadow-mage, what are your hotkeys like? try changing your hotkeys to something like 1-3 army, 4-7 factories, 8-0 comsat scan or command center. That way, while you are focusing on the battle, you can simply press 4t 5t 6v 7v to build units in your factories.

and as everyone else has said....it just takes lots of practice.
h3L
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Bulgaria33 Posts
December 28 2008 18:34 GMT
#38
You start by relaxing, trying to breathe through at least a 15 minute game. If you`re experiencing technical difficulties you should focus inside yourself and find what is blocking you

Some thoughts:
- you have a weak character and you tend to be a bit of a gentleman which is not acceptable while playing competitive
- you need to unleash the beast and start playing no matter the results, as the people told you above - you need experience, rookie.
Getting some things clear for yourself.

1st - emotional player who games for the fun of it with no ambition to achieve greatness, you can play all you want in the public rooms for that matter and you don`t need this community.
2nd - the strategy guy who thinks in terms of timing, micro, macro, mechanics and then a nice game plan considering races, maps, locations and all that stuff involving decision making until you reach a comfortable level to have fun with it. But you have to go through the toughness of the game. This is not tetris my friend. You need to play, breathe, think, relax and play a bit more instead of play, get depressed, go seek professional help from the other bw players.
I`ll give you an example - if you`re feeling good there is no one to blame for your experience, but if you`re feeling bad - you and most people will generally accuse someone else for their discomfort. Guess what - it`s all in your head. Learn to control that and you have a 75% success rate in almost everything.

A 3rd scenario is possible where you try to combine the first 2 options by playing in the public rooms with the idea to get some skill there and leave ASAP. Go ti iccup then and start gaming.

And finally, personally, I think you should find your own weakness by yourself and seek motivation by watching the progamers instead of asking for people to do the work for you... This is experience that those people have gather for 10 years, and you want it right now, without getting through the toughness period? You will never develop the mentality and the ability needed to become a very good player if you don`t work for yourself, find the motivation and passion after you rethink the steps above.
Good luck.
it is all about overall evolution
Shadow-Mage
Profile Joined September 2007
United States49 Posts
December 28 2008 18:46 GMT
#39
Here are two games I did very quickly. I suppose I did alright, except my minerals got abit to high in the first game, and my second game I just forgot the Comsat (as usual) and I managed to botch expanding.
Firstreplay on Battle Reports[
Second replay on Battle Reports
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 19:00:40
December 28 2008 18:54 GMT
#40
you really won't learn much by playing the computer, and people won't really be able to help you

if you're losing to stuff like DT drop and reaver drop when you know your opponent is going to do them, it means something about your build timing / micro is really screwed up. a lot of newer players think they know build orders and how to react to what they scout, but often they don't.
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