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I'm a Starcraft n00b... will you help me? - Page 5
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
LOL I must have missed this post of epicness! +2 | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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I don't think you can just show people replays or VODs and expect it to impress the hell out of them. Starcraft becomes something you enjoy and love over time IMO. I've tried to introduce people to the game and when I'm successful, it's where I ease them in gradually and let them fuck around with the units and single player. From my experience, if you immediately start telling them you CAN'T build this or CAN'T do that, it's too limiting and it's not fun. Good luck; even though I don't agree with the special treatment exhibited in this thread. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
I'm really willing to give some advice, edit your post and then post your race. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
Then after stomping AI, go online, get owned again, then go here for advices...if your looking for noobs, look for them in -_-'s post. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On January 09 2009 19:55 Infinity.SkyLark wrote: Ok, this is the second noob thread that reached more than 2 pages, OP, consider yourself lucky. Most of the topics like this were closed and the OP was just told to search the strat forum. Agree. Hence: On January 09 2009 19:36 Salv wrote: Good luck; even though I don't agree with the special treatment exhibited in this thread. | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10596 Posts
1. Play a bit of campaign with your favorite race to get the VERY basics. 2. Play skirmish against 1 CPU - Don't use any BO's, do it 100% yourself. 3. Play skirmish against 2 CPU (1on2) - Don't use any BO's, do it 100% yourself. 4. Go online, get raped, search advice, get advice, play again, get raped, play again, get raped, watch replays, get raped.... repeat for at least 3 Months - 2 years and it will get better. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On January 09 2009 20:26 Velr wrote: 4. Go online, get raped, search advice, get advice, play again, get raped, play again, get raped, watch replays, get raped.... repeat for at least 3 Months - 2 years and it will get better. LOL, maybe not the best thing to tell new people coming into the game! | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2131 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
I'm also quite skilled at few "solo" games but even with a lot more dedication i'm still bad at starcraft. Wait... i'm bad compared to most of the other players ( especially TeamLiquidians ). In term of "absolute" skill i'm godly compared to someone who never played it and i probably would have been a really strong player around 2000 but the players always get better and i'm just another D+ protoss (lol). Hence you can understand that the "key" word for broodwar is competition. I'm not talking about some high level tournaments with programmers, but about the massive amount of games you will have to play against another massive amount of different opponents to get better. This isn't some kind of game where you complete the missions then go online win and losses some games, but figure out how it works in two days than stop to play because it is boring. No, it takes months to understand how this game really works and to get used to a not so noob friendly user interface. Is Starcraft worth all this time ? Well i think you should just stop when you are tired  Personnally i don't know if i would play this game again if i had to learn all again from the beginning. This is the only game where i have so many good and bad memories. A game with bad memories, quite surprising isn't it ? Usually this is the kind of bad game that gets boring in two hours. Starcraft isn't. All the bad memories are related to his "competition aspect". You will have to get bashed over and over. Hopefully you will find plenty of good and nice TeamLiquid people to help you. When i started to play online around 2004, i thought i was the shit because i could beat three computers ( with some gay turtle strat ) but i got bashed so hard even in " 2v2 noob" games that i almost quitted to play. Going somethin like 0-10 was really a shock. But it was the same when i started to play ladder. I had some kind of stupid arguments with my best 2v2 partner because this game is so intensive and need so much dedication that sometimes i forgot it was just a game and get mad for few seconds at some stupid errors ( by him or me ). When you go 0-10 in ladder it is a real pain too. Hopefully i'm less a sore looser nowadays too ( you need a lot of training too to get used to the constant bashing this game provides ).I had also a lot of bad memories with bad mannered people and hackers, so i would recommand you to play mostly with or against friends. When i started to play i was alone. None of my irl friends played this game. That wasn't cool because i had to learn this game all by myself + replays. The last and most important problem with this game is addiction ( i had some periods where i was badly addicted ). This game is a real "sport" and sometimes i need to play like i need to do some pull ups once in a while. I'm sometimes quite tired after an intensive game. You know, like after an hard math exam But then there are so many good memories. Playing a lot of UMS ( funny maps with special rules ) with awesome people, playing few games with people considered good in the community, getting in a clan, bashing people worse than me ( YEA THAT'S FUN TOO :D ), achieving D+ 1v1 and C- 2v2 ranks, understanding how this game works, and hundred of amazing hours spend on this game :p. I would recomand you to: - Play a bit the solo missions ( to get used with the units, races and building ). - Play vs one computer bot and beat him. - Play vs two and beat him. ( might be hard so you can skip this if you can't ). - Then go online play with Team liquid people ---> get bashed and read strategy threads + dl reps + watch Vods. Then you could say that you have played the hardest game ( RTS ) ever made  | ||
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
just /w me, liger13 ill be happy to  | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
Some basic things I used to focus on when I started out: Never stop building workers, build alot of unitproducing buildings, expand alot, scout. You will eventually stop building workers but I found it's better to focus on to never stop building them, just a mental thing. If you get those things down you can start to combine them with build orders. Oh and if you want to play odd hours (as I'm in europe) you can always PM me.  EDIT:Also when watching replays you should download a good players ladder replay pack and not those reps found on this site. Then watch all the games that end befor 12minutes or so. Replays that get posted on most replay sites are for their entertainment value and obviously contains errors and such and will most likely be over your head. A perfectly executed build/strategy is way better if you want to learn something from replays. Like in most PvT reps the toss wont accomplish anyting with his dragoons, but you need to know why the toss send them out. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Eskii
Canada544 Posts
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
On January 10 2009 03:01 Eskii wrote: You know what I absolutely love? 10 years after this game came out people are still starting it from scratch, that is fucking beautiful. +1 | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
Good luck! | ||
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Mooga
United States575 Posts
On January 09 2009 12:45 Kennigit wrote: I hear that incontrol guy is pretty good at bw lol. hehe | ||
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
random girl with pictures and myspace in quote : 5 pages The best way to learn any game is just to play it. Figure out what you did wrong, watch replays and repeat. If you are good at other games then it should be second nature to at least be "decent" at this. | ||
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