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whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
June 15 2020 17:37 GMT
#201
On June 16 2020 02:25 A.Alm wrote:
Wait, what did Last do? lol


Oh I meant that stream after ASL 6 match with Effort where Last tried to explain how he felt after all online harass and declining health. Midway he broke down and started crying and had to turn stream down.
it's not just a music it's something else
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 15 2020 17:39 GMT
#202
On June 16 2020 02:37 whaski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2020 02:25 A.Alm wrote:
Wait, what did Last do? lol


Oh I meant that stream after ASL 6 match with Effort where Last tried to explain how he felt after all online harass and declining health. Midway he broke down and started crying and had to turn stream down.


Damn really? I didn't know about that. Maybe I could check about Last more, maybe that would explain why he is not playing in the ASL anymore :O
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
June 15 2020 17:58 GMT
#203
I don't think Stork is a piece of shit even if he cheated on his GF, who the hell cares about that? I am curious where the proof is that he badmouthed JangBi.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 15 2020 18:04 GMT
#204
On June 16 2020 02:58 GGzerG wrote:
I don't think Stork is a piece of shit even if he cheated on his GF, who the hell cares about that? I am curious where the proof is that he badmouthed JangBi.


Already posted a proof. I can post more proofs of him denying the success of Jangbi and ignoring him as part of the best players.

If you don't care that he cheats, yeah I guess good for you, but this whole drama is about Stork as a person, not as a player. If you don't care, more power to you.
Zerghxhx
Profile Joined October 2019
China25 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-15 18:07:38
June 15 2020 18:06 GMT
#205
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I love Gillette!
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 15 2020 18:08 GMT
#206
On June 16 2020 03:06 Zerghxhx wrote:
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I love Gillette!


I'll only shave with Gillette from now on.
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden305 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-15 19:12:35
June 15 2020 19:09 GMT
#207
meh
nah
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
June 15 2020 19:10 GMT
#208
On June 15 2020 16:23 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
FlaSh is pretend to be human afterall.





Its just me, or anybody else thinks Hunters is a better map for 3vs3?
and why no red.nada? is he retired? hes one of my favs

rooting for teams pusan, fbh, piano and iris. gg

This is the way
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
June 15 2020 19:26 GMT
#209
Sorry if this already got brought up somewhere already, but is there a reason Flash is playing Terran instead of Random?
Mine gas, build tanks.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
June 15 2020 19:27 GMT
#210
On June 16 2020 03:06 Zerghxhx wrote:
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I love Gillette!

That OGN Starleague logo man makes me giddy
Mine gas, build tanks.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-15 19:29:41
June 15 2020 19:27 GMT
#211
On June 16 2020 04:27 Akio wrote:
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On June 16 2020 03:06 Zerghxhx wrote:
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I love Gillette!

Man seeing that OGN Starleague logo makes me giddy

(double post)
Mine gas, build tanks.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
June 15 2020 20:43 GMT
#212
On June 16 2020 04:26 Akio wrote:
Sorry if this already got brought up somewhere already, but is there a reason Flash is playing Terran instead of Random?


Flash plays Terran in 1v1, dunno about 2v2 or fastest
it's not just a music it's something else
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
June 15 2020 22:19 GMT
#213
On June 16 2020 03:04 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2020 02:58 GGzerG wrote:
I don't think Stork is a piece of shit even if he cheated on his GF, who the hell cares about that? I am curious where the proof is that he badmouthed JangBi.


Already posted a proof. I can post more proofs of him denying the success of Jangbi and ignoring him as part of the best players.

If you don't care that he cheats, yeah I guess good for you, but this whole drama is about Stork as a person, not as a player. If you don't care, more power to you.

A 2013 allegation he refuses to comment on isn't exactly cast iron proof, but if that's enough for you to call him a piece of shit more power to you.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 15 2020 22:38 GMT
#214
On June 16 2020 07:19 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2020 03:04 Essbee wrote:
On June 16 2020 02:58 GGzerG wrote:
I don't think Stork is a piece of shit even if he cheated on his GF, who the hell cares about that? I am curious where the proof is that he badmouthed JangBi.


Already posted a proof. I can post more proofs of him denying the success of Jangbi and ignoring him as part of the best players.

If you don't care that he cheats, yeah I guess good for you, but this whole drama is about Stork as a person, not as a player. If you don't care, more power to you.

A 2013 allegation he refuses to comment on isn't exactly cast iron proof, but if that's enough for you to call him a piece of shit more power to you.


Uh yes, I have strong standards when it comes to cheating, so thanks I guess? The year has nothing to do with it... and it has not been proven wrong until now. Seeing Stork's overall personality is enough for me to believe it. And also, whenever Stork is against the wall for other controversies, he will argue very fiercely if he believes he is right. Pretty strange that he decided to ignore the cheating scandal.
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada120 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-15 22:54:11
June 15 2020 22:51 GMT
#215
Sorta feel bad for Best since he never wins anything and his team looks like the underdog... The guy is way better than his individual tournament standings say (he beat Queen in the most recent Race War tournament)

I wish GoRush picked Mini, Soulkey or Larva (maybe in that order) over Ssak in the second round

I'm also very curious as to how good Free is right now (pretty sure he's better than his tier)
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 15 2020 23:28 GMT
#216
On June 16 2020 07:51 ruhtraeel wrote:
Sorta feel bad for Best since he never wins anything and his team looks like the underdog... The guy is way better than his individual tournament standings say (he beat Queen in the most recent Race War tournament)

I wish GoRush picked Mini, Soulkey or Larva (maybe in that order) over Ssak in the second round

I'm also very curious as to how good Free is right now (pretty sure he's better than his tier)


GoRush couldn't have done that since the draft is serpentine. That means Stork had pick 8 and 9, and then it goes in reverse order back to 1 (so the first pick gets 1 and 16, for example). So soulkey was essentially picked 9th, and Ssak was picked 12th

Free is playing quite a lot these days, he's getting better and better. I think midas knocked it out of the park with his draft... all these players can be very very good. To answer your question, yeah, he was picked early in the 3rd round (he was "supposed" to go in the 5th).
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada120 Posts
June 16 2020 00:23 GMT
#217
On June 16 2020 08:28 Essbee wrote:
GoRush couldn't have done that since the draft is serpentine. That means Stork had pick 8 and 9, and then it goes in reverse order back to 1 (so the first pick gets 1 and 16, for example). So soulkey was essentially picked 9th, and Ssak was picked 12th

Free is playing quite a lot these days, he's getting better and better. I think midas knocked it out of the park with his draft... all these players can be very very good. To answer your question, yeah, he was picked early in the 3rd round (he was "supposed" to go in the 5th).


In that case, GoRush definitely should have picked Action or Soma over Ssak I think.

I just checked Free's channel, and he's mid 2400, which is pretty high.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-16 01:39:03
June 16 2020 00:52 GMT
#218
On June 16 2020 02:37 whaski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2020 02:25 A.Alm wrote:
Wait, what did Last do? lol


Oh I meant that stream after ASL 6 match with Effort where Last tried to explain how he felt after all online harass and declining health. Midway he broke down and started crying and had to turn stream down.


Ok just checked the story, I will go back on my words and say sorry for my opinion about Last. During the ASL6, he played in the semifinals against Effort and Effort beat him 3-2 at that time. After the match, korean people spammed his stream with "tesagi" and he tried to contain his emotions and said he took painkillers to endure the pain in his wrist and still play in the ASL and people wouldn't recognize his efforts (pun intended) and just blame the terran race for him being able to go that far. All of this despite Last being a well known hard worker. And you know who happened to push the "tesagi" agenda (it was not really a big thing before the afreecatv era)? Mr. "I play world of warcraft and don't want to practice" himself. Here is the youtube video with all the negative comments as proof:


Summary of some of the negative comments on that video (translated with paraphrasing...):
- This is the top rated comment: "Stop making excuses and pretend you've never said that. You will never understand Last because you've never made as much efforts as he did."
- "I rarely make negative comments, but this video is truly disgusting"
- "Why do you suddenly pretend like you've never said tesagi? After Shuttle, you are the worst offender."
- "Someone is crying and really sad, and you guys are laughing and joking like this? You always keep making excuses too."
- "Why did you even upload this video? You just want to make money with this, right?"
- "I can't believe you are in your thirties, you act like a teenager."
- "You guys can't play, just look at how much people like Flash and Last practice, it's insane"
- "When you beat Fantasy in the Incruit OSL, it was all your skills, but then after that when you lose against the same guy (who probably practiced and studied the matchup...), suddenly it's all about tesagi?"
- "Stork you disgusting loser, why don't you play Terran instead of Protoss? Tell me."
- "I regret ever cheering for you."
- "The TaekBbangLeeSsang name is too much for you. Among them, you are the only one with that kind of loser mentality."

And many similar comments...

It should be known that many Stork's videos have comments turned off, I'm surprised this one hasn't.

You people wanted proof? There's your proof.

So, despite Last crying and being bullied by tons of fans, no one seemed to want to apologize and even doubled down on it and didn't want to admit their fault (Or try to help the guy? They even fucking laugh in the video). That's why he's not gonna play in the ASL again. I won't call Stork any names, you already all know my opinion on the guy. And Sea, oh well, I'm not even gonna start on him, but let's just say that he has his own reputation already.

Not only this, but both Sea and Stork laugh at Last taking detailed notes about the TvZ matchup because they say they don't do this themselves (what a surprise) and think it's ridiculous. Let that be clear, THEY LAUGH AT HIM FOR TRYING TO WIN GAMES AND BE BETTER.

I'm actually fucking pissed off. I was a fan of Last, he left and then I saw his youtube videos and thought he became a dick for no reason. But now I am actually real triggered about Stork.
staatbauhaus
Profile Joined February 2020
99 Posts
June 16 2020 02:01 GMT
#219
LOL all this proves is you take things at face value and you understand 0 about Afreeca streaming culture. The way Sea handled it is the epitome of 방방봐, 채채봐. You gotta gain viewers 민심 by being lighthearted. Afreeca was and is still like that till this day. If he went all serious and told viewers to stop saying tesagi, the flaming/trolling would have gotten 100x worse for Last.

You can go look up anyone that has fucked up and had a "새탁" stream. It's just the person getting roasted nonstop until the viewers finally feel like its okay and time to move on.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 16 2020 02:08 GMT
#220
On June 16 2020 09:52 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2020 02:37 whaski wrote:
On June 16 2020 02:25 A.Alm wrote:
Wait, what did Last do? lol


Oh I meant that stream after ASL 6 match with Effort where Last tried to explain how he felt after all online harass and declining health. Midway he broke down and started crying and had to turn stream down.


Ok just checked the story, I will go back on my words and say sorry for my opinion about Last. During the ASL6, he played in the semifinals against Effort and Effort beat him 3-2 at that time. After the match, korean people spammed his stream with "tesagi" and he tried to contain his emotions and said he took painkillers to endure the pain in his wrist and still play in the ASL and people wouldn't recognize his efforts (pun intended) and just blame the terran race for him being able to go that far. All of this despite Last being a well known hard worker. And you know who happened to push the "tesagi" agenda (it was not really a big thing before the afreecatv era)? Mr. "I play world of warcraft and don't want to practice" himself. Here is the youtube video with all the negative comments as proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NwIMRRgIcY&fbclid=IwAR25dZQoDbFpDBdx32nTjIiDe8_EzKdDBK__sM7K7dF7a2GyinWdV2xCaDE

Summary of some of the negative comments on that video (translated with paraphrasing...):
- This is the top rated comment: "Stop making excuses and pretend you've never said that. You will never understand Last because you've never made as much efforts as he did."
- "I rarely make negative comments, but this video is truly disgusting"
- "Why do you suddenly pretend like you've never said tesagi? After Shuttle, you are the worst offender."
- "Someone is crying and really sad, and you guys are laughing and joking like this? You always keep making excuses too."
- "Why did you even upload this video? You just want to make money with this, right?"
- "I can't believe you are in your thirties, you act like a teenager."
- "You guys can't play, just look at how much people like Flash and Last practice, it's insane"
- "When you beat Fantasy in the Incruit OSL, it was all your skills, but then after that when you lose against the same guy (who probably practiced and studied the matchup...), suddenly it's all about tesagi?"
- "Stork you disgusting loser, why don't you play Terran instead of Protoss? Tell me."
- "I regret ever cheering for you."
- "The TaekBbangLeeSsang name is too much for you. Among them, you are the only one with that kind of loser mentality."

And many similar comments...

It should be known that many Stork's videos have comments turned off, I'm surprised this one hasn't.

You people wanted proof? There's your proof.

So, despite Last crying and being bullied by tons of fans, no one seemed to want to apologize and even doubled down on it and didn't want to admit their fault (Or try to help the guy? They even fucking laugh in the video). That's why he's not gonna play in the ASL again. I won't call Stork any names, you already all know my opinion on the guy. And Sea, oh well, I'm not even gonna start on him, but let's just say that he has his own reputation already.

Not only this, but both Sea and Stork laugh at Last taking detailed notes about the TvZ matchup because they say they don't do this themselves (what a surprise) and think it's ridiculous. Let that be clear, THEY LAUGH AT HIM FOR TRYING TO WIN GAMES AND BE BETTER.

I'm actually fucking pissed off. I was a fan of Last, he left and then I saw his youtube videos and thought he became a dick for no reason. But now I am actually real triggered about Stork.

Thanks for doing the research and bringing this to our attention. That's pretty terrible behaviour if that's the case. I already knew about Sea's history, but all this new information about Stork (always knew he was a whiner from way back lol) sheds light on who he really is. I'm also sad that Last is not around anymore and never realized the reason till you posted this information so thanks again.
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