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Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 23:53:45
December 02 2013 23:53 GMT
#221
Dear Korea.

Please give sAviOr a break. His days of match fixing were years ago. I was literally finishing secondary school and starting college when he first began to fix matches and I was a vastly different person back then. Based on the fact that people always change, I feel that to indict a person for life based on a scandal like this is going a bit overboard.

Just... get over the fact he played in a Chinese tournament already. What's done is done. It's in the past.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 23:54:02
December 02 2013 23:53 GMT
#222
On December 03 2013 08:47 XenOsky- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:41 sharkie wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:19 Hydro033 wrote:
On December 02 2013 18:10 arb wrote:
ya blizzard needs to get the fuck on and stay away. they ruined BW in the first place promoting the shitty sequel. they need to stay out of BW unless they plan on reviving it.


You can just be realistic and realize that a game made in '98 wouldn't last forever...


Yeah... A game which is over ten years old surely can't last forever, right....

OMG all sports are ages old -.-


e-Sports and actual Sports are not quite the same thing.


because one thing is played with a computer and the other not?

Sorry, I realise they are not the same thing but why can't we have a game which will be played over decades?
Potling
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway298 Posts
December 02 2013 23:54 GMT
#223
On December 03 2013 08:47 XenOsky- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:41 sharkie wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:19 Hydro033 wrote:
On December 02 2013 18:10 arb wrote:
ya blizzard needs to get the fuck on and stay away. they ruined BW in the first place promoting the shitty sequel. they need to stay out of BW unless they plan on reviving it.


You can just be realistic and realize that a game made in '98 wouldn't last forever...


Yeah... A game which is over ten years old surely can't last forever, right....

OMG all sports are ages old -.-


e-Sports and actual Sports are not quite the same thing.

Yep! "ESPORTS" is based on corporate greed, unlike traditional sports. Therefore a game in "ESPORTS" can't last for longer than a decade; that wouldn't be as profitable for developers and merchandisers.
Potling
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 23:58:09
December 02 2013 23:56 GMT
#224
On December 03 2013 08:53 Clbull wrote:
Dear Korea.

Please give sAviOr a break. His days of match fixing were years ago. I was literally finishing secondary school and starting college when he first began to fix matches and I was a vastly different person back then. Based on the fact that people always change, I feel that to indict a person for life based on a scandal like this is going a bit overboard.

Just... get over the fact he played in a Chinese tournament already. What's done is done. It's in the past.

Dear Clbull,

Did you consider that Savior never apologized for his actions and continues to make money off the game he helped destroy?

Ah, why do I bother.. These arguments have been repeated hundreds of times.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
December 03 2013 00:00 GMT
#225
On December 03 2013 08:54 Potling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:47 XenOsky- wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:41 sharkie wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:19 Hydro033 wrote:
On December 02 2013 18:10 arb wrote:
ya blizzard needs to get the fuck on and stay away. they ruined BW in the first place promoting the shitty sequel. they need to stay out of BW unless they plan on reviving it.


You can just be realistic and realize that a game made in '98 wouldn't last forever...


Yeah... A game which is over ten years old surely can't last forever, right....

OMG all sports are ages old -.-


e-Sports and actual Sports are not quite the same thing.

Yep! "ESPORTS" is based on corporate greed, unlike traditional sports. Therefore a game in "ESPORTS" can't last for longer than a decade; that wouldn't be as profitable for developers and merchandisers.


hey lets not give big professional sports a pass here, its also all about money money money

Potling
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 00:11:31
December 03 2013 00:08 GMT
#226
On December 03 2013 09:00 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:54 Potling wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:47 XenOsky- wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:41 sharkie wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:19 Hydro033 wrote:
On December 02 2013 18:10 arb wrote:
ya blizzard needs to get the fuck on and stay away. they ruined BW in the first place promoting the shitty sequel. they need to stay out of BW unless they plan on reviving it.


You can just be realistic and realize that a game made in '98 wouldn't last forever...


Yeah... A game which is over ten years old surely can't last forever, right....

OMG all sports are ages old -.-


e-Sports and actual Sports are not quite the same thing.

Yep! "ESPORTS" is based on corporate greed, unlike traditional sports. Therefore a game in "ESPORTS" can't last for longer than a decade; that wouldn't be as profitable for developers and merchandisers.


hey lets not give big professional sports a pass here, its also all about money money money


There is greed within sports, sure, but not on all levels. Supporting "ESPORTS" seems to be all about supporting whatever developments are most profitable for developers and merchandisers ("for the sake of ESPORTS")

You won't hear of football fans being told to cheer for the death of football in favor of Football 2 so a company can sell a new type of balls
lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
December 03 2013 00:15 GMT
#227
On December 03 2013 08:53 Clbull wrote:
Dear Korea.

Please give sAviOr a break. His days of match fixing were years ago. I was literally finishing secondary school and starting college when he first began to fix matches and I was a vastly different person back then. Based on the fact that people always change, I feel that to indict a person for life based on a scandal like this is going a bit overboard.

Let's forget about the fact that he didn't serve a single day in jail despite his conviction. Let's just pretend that he is a changed man (although the fact that he has sued people for leaving negative comments about him on web sites suggests otherwise...along with many other facts)

We can let him be a part of normal society and treat him like a normal person if we meet him. We can say that he's a good person and stop calling him an asshole. I am fine with that. However, doing that and letting him play in tournaments is a whole different thing. That goes beyond forgiving Savior and extends into the territory of endangering the livelihoods of innocent pro gamers for the sake of "forgiving him". This is another false dichotomy that is often employed in Savior threads. There is actually a middle ground between the two extremes of treating Savior like trash forever and letting him play in BW tournaments. Giving him a second chance at life does not require that we give him a second chance at pro gaming. He can sell cell phones like Ji Young-hoon.

On December 03 2013 08:53 Clbull wrote:
Just... get over the fact he played in a Chinese tournament already. What's done is done. It's in the past.

Yeah, it's done, which is why people are calling for Chinese cooperation with future tournaments...which would take effect in the...future.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 03 2013 00:17 GMT
#228
kespa still exists?

LOL
why so 진지해?
lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
December 03 2013 00:22 GMT
#229
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
kespa still exists?

because of
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
LOL
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 03 2013 00:24 GMT
#230
oh
why so 진지해?
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
December 03 2013 00:33 GMT
#231
On December 02 2013 18:04 zeo wrote:
Blizzard can fuck off. Them having anything to do with BW is even worse than savior playing every event normaly like nothing happened...


Creating the game is a pretty significant thing having to do with it
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 03 2013 00:34 GMT
#232
On December 03 2013 09:22 lemmata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
kespa still exists?

because of
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
LOL


muahahaha :D
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
December 03 2013 00:38 GMT
#233
Here's what I got from this:

Kespa is still being a whiny bitch about one of their star players who made a critical mistake in his gaming career because he wants to play in a tournament that's not Kespa sanctioned, and now they're complaining to Papa Bear so he will make sure that their childish actions go through?

I understand Kespa is mad at Savior for what he did, but what they're doing right now is out right fucking stupid. You guys created the system that created him, then are mad at him for continuing to play tournaments and showmatch events in a game you trained him to play? He doesn't have other skills, and it's something he was amazing at. If he can't play in Kespa sanctioned tournaments, fine, but don't be childish fucking pricks and attempt to stop him from doing it outside of Korea.

I fucking hate Kespa, and I honestly hope they fail. Look, I know they're making Esports in Korea great, but they're oppressors, and are going to be worse for this scene in the long run. Get these fuck tards out of this business please.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
December 03 2013 00:40 GMT
#234
It's SCNTV's money, they can invite whoever they want. Obviously the fans wanted Savior to play, he also got an insane amount of views when he was frequenting afreeca.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
December 03 2013 00:47 GMT
#235
I want to see Savior play Bisu or someone else legendary that went back to BW.
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
December 03 2013 00:48 GMT
#236
On December 03 2013 09:22 lemmata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
kespa still exists?

because of
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
LOL

What you did there, I'm seeing it.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
December 03 2013 00:57 GMT
#237
Do people know that even Sonic has obtained a license from Blizzard so that he can continue running his leagues? It costs nearly nil to obtain the license. What makes SCNTV so special that they can bypass this process? As far as I know, Sonic is not allowed to invite players who have been banned as part of the licensing agreement.

Also, when local sports leagues ban someone, it is standard operating procedure to ask the international governing body to enforce these bans across borders. It's certainly not uncommon in soccer. In this case, that governing body happens to be Blizzard. That may seem unnatural because Blizzard is a corporate entity, but it is what it is. It is needed in order to make the bans be effective.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 03 2013 01:00 GMT
#238
On December 03 2013 09:22 lemmata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
kespa still exists?

because of
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
LOL


Dan answers his own questions. -.^
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 03 2013 01:02 GMT
#239
On December 03 2013 04:31 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 04:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 03 2013 04:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
what does "couldn't do what Shine could" mean?


Beat Bisu

he did knock Bisu out of the OSL Or MSL one though Iirc.

after Bisu had won 3 titles haha.
Obv referring to the famous "when he has won 3 titles he can challenge me" quote lol


he didn't knock bisu out, he won on blue storm with a masterful cheese and lost on katrina because LOLKATRINAPVZ
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 03 2013 01:03 GMT
#240
On December 03 2013 10:00 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 09:22 lemmata wrote:
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
kespa still exists?

because of
On December 03 2013 09:17 Rekrul wrote:
LOL


Dan answers his own questions. -.^

and it was beautiful
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
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