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Croatia9362 Posts
UPDATE #4 - TheBGH.com website is back online! (2019 edit: now links to Archive.org) UPDATE #3 - BGH FPVODs UPDATE #2 - BGH Mega Replay Pack UPDATE #1 - Surfer vs TnY showmatch
With all these negative threads popping out all over the BW section, I think it's time for a positive one. This will be a post about a BGH community and why now is the perfect time to start playing BGH if you're still into BW. This will not be a post if BW is better game than SC2 or if low maps are better than BGH, so don't bring that shit into this thread.
This smiley has captured the souls of many players. Now it's after yours!
There has always been some sort of dark light over BGH and it's players when it would be brought up in random discussions in low map community. And even though Teamliquid has gone a long way in how the BGH is treated here, I still feel that a lot of people see BGH like a map that's played by all the hackers and newbies in the world and like a map that people only play when they just start playing BW and then move on to the "men's maps". While certainly I agree that BGH is the map that at least 90% of players have started playing BW on, I believe it can be more than just the rite of passage of every BW player. After all, the BGH has been one of the most played map in BW. You'd think that this map ought to be perfect when people still after 12 years play it over and over again. But when you look at the BGH from purely technical point of view, you see that it's far from it. BGH is an asymmetrical map and it's both race and position imbalanced. But maybe that's exactly the reason why people don't get tired of it. This is most noticeable after the release of SC2, where I've noticed one peculiar thing. The BGH scene has not followed decline in player's activity to the same extent as the general BW population has. It may have something to do with how I always perceived BGH players as people who do what they love and don't care about anything else. Now of course, this stubbornness isn't always a good thing but more on that later. Right now I'm trying to get you to play BGH so I'll leave negative side of BGH community for later ^^.
So to summarize this wall of text above, who I'm quite sure most of you won't even read, here are some of the main reasons why you should start playing BGH now:
- BGH scene is still quite active.
- BGH community suits all skill levels. From public games for the most casual players to the several levels of "innys" for players of all colors in ICCup rank.
- Plenty of good and mannered people. They're just hard to find sometimes
- Bonding with people through teamplay.
- FUN!
Now that I've got you at least a little bit interested in the BGH scene, there are some things that you need to know if you wish to explore this foreign land some more. Where do BGHers meet and play? Even though it was a noble try (maybe a little bit naive), server consolidation suggestion has probably ended up in trash bin at Blizzard's headquarters. But the strange thing happened nonetheless. After a release of SC2, BGH players from all gateways converged to the same place thus making a server consolidation of their own. That place is the East server with main channel being the )v(. Now I know this is the biggest drawback of BGH community, because it would be ideal if the whole BGH community transferred to the ICCup. But sadly, this is not happening any time soon. It has been tried many times before, but I guess BGHers have this feeling of "home" at the official servers where on ICCup they feel like strangers. But to be honest, this isn't that bad as it may seem at first. You can get used to it pretty quick and the atmosphere there grows on you. Besides the East server, and I apologize for pulling this shameless promotion, but another home for all BGHers is http://www.thebgh.com/ - the BGH community website. Pretty much all the top players in BGH community visits this website and so should you .
With that being said, here are the things you should know if you decide to dive into the BGH community:
- The main channel where BGHers meet and play is )v( @East.
- http://www.TheBGH.com/ - the BGH community website.
- "Inny", meaning "inner house", games are the most popular because you play with people who you know instead of random people in public games.
- You can pretty much find game at any time in )v(, but the best time for regular innys is from 4pm all the way to 4am EST.
- If ICCup is your main playground, you will have to get used to the Bnet's latency. Most people who play innys have Chaoslauncher though so games on Lan Latency are possible as well.
- Of course there are hackers who play BGH, but they're mostly public players so hacking is not really an issue in inny games.
- The bad mannered people are also the loudest ones. Don't let them discourage you because there are also plenty of good mannered people.
Remember, YOU can be the next BGH king! BGH community is like a family, a dysfunctional one, but a family nonetheless. Pretty much, everyone knows everyone, and while there are a lot of grudges, there's also a lot of friendships. I just hope this thread remains in good spirit and the drama-free, as I'd like to keep this thread as a place where I can update some of the biggest happenings in the BGH community, no matter how scarce they are.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
BGH is awesome :D I still love 3s on it, though I get close to raging when I get tankdropped on my cliffs. If I ever find time to play BW again, I'm going to play some BGH^^
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Austin10831 Posts
Very nice post, 2pac. The BGH community is weird and dysfunctional, but it's also pretty fun. I actually just re-installed and played some BGH this week! It was hard and I kept messing up my hotkeys (thx sc2) but it was enjoyable, too. I forgot how much fun I used to have, and I think I'm gonna make it my mission to play a couple of games each week.
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BGH is pretty noob IMO, but man there are some fun BGH games! :D
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Washington, D.C9931 Posts
i love bgh. love love love bgh, it was my favorite part of brood war for so many years. just yesterday when bnet was down i decided to play bgh for the first time in a long while and ran into some bghers who recognized me on my original id from before i became e-famous and shit
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BGH is waiting for me if I ever get good enough to play Broodwar again. My gaming skills have all but evaporated.
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even though Sc2 is great and all, but BGH is still the shit :D
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Austin10831 Posts
On November 13 2010 06:47 the-Undermind wrote: BGH is pretty noob IMO, but man there are some fun BGH games! :D This is kind of an ignorant statement. BGH is just a map. There are good BGHers and noob BGHers, and some of the good BGHers are very solid BW players.
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Canada2480 Posts
On November 13 2010 06:54 BroOd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 06:47 the-Undermind wrote: BGH is pretty noob IMO, but man there are some fun BGH games! :D This is kind of an ignorant statement. BGH is just a map. There are good BGHers and noob BGHers, and some of the good BGHers are very solid BW players.
Day[9] played BGH a lot if I recall O_O
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Canada5066 Posts
BGH is a great community, I miss a lot of those people, too bad I don't game with them anymore
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On November 13 2010 07:04 swanized wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 06:54 BroOd wrote:On November 13 2010 06:47 the-Undermind wrote: BGH is pretty noob IMO, but man there are some fun BGH games! :D This is kind of an ignorant statement. BGH is just a map. There are good BGHers and noob BGHers, and some of the good BGHers are very solid BW players. Day[9] played BGH a lot if I recall O_O
yea he did.
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Croatia9362 Posts
We're playing just now, if anyone wants to hop in.
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Croatia9362 Posts
Though we have 8 at the moment I think, but there's another group of people also searching for inny.
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man BGH, I use to play this a lot before BW. Back then it was hard to convince me that anything else can even be considered Starcraft.
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I used to play BGH so much with my friend, before iccup. There are so many bm players; although, it's hilarious sometimes.
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Canada10904 Posts
Hey 2Pacalypse,
I really appreciate this. A celebration of all things BW is needed these days. And people like me who joined in the last 3 years have a hard time knowing where all the communities are buried in the channels. I will definitely check out the BGH channel if I can't get anyone to join my D- noobs only maps on iCCup.
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bm players is what makes bgh fun imo. i always get bored when there's no drama in bgh games or when the drama queens get eliminated fast.
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BGH kept me coming back to BW cuz i kept getting destroyed on iccup, its pretty much what made SC for me used to play tons.
btw this isnt mentioned in the OP but for west folk the channel is marlboro
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woah 2 geysers in 1 mineral patch thats keeerayzeeeeeeeeeeeeeee woooahhhh :O
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On November 13 2010 06:47 the-Undermind wrote: BGH is pretty noob IMO, but man there are some fun BGH games! :D
There are some serious BGH players out there that would probably whoop your butt on normal maps.
Just sayin'.
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Croatia9362 Posts
On November 13 2010 08:56 Puremiss wrote: btw this isnt mentioned in the OP but for west folk the channel is marlboro
I didn't mention marlboro on West, because I mentioned consolidation to East server which happened in this past few months. Marlboro is practically dead nowadays.
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are u gusy still playing?
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Croatia9362 Posts
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Katowice25012 Posts
Many of my favorite BW related memories are on BGH over the last year or so. Every game is chaotic, messy, and its a great arena for hilarious cheese and map abuse. Its all the most fun parts of BW in a single map. Every game is a blast.
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CA10824 Posts
yup i'm playing bgh a lot lately
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As a WC3 player who only got into StarCraft after SC2, BGH looks like a lot of fun. But I'm wondering how open you guys are to utter noobs. Should I stick to SC2 or is it worth trying out?
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LID8 has helped me see the way.
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Croatia9362 Posts
It's definitely worth trying out.
Though you will probably have to play public games first to practice your mechanics and general build orders. But it only gets more fun as you get better at it!
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Some strategies on BGH just don't work like they do in low money maps, so that is why it is called a noob map. For example, starving your opponent isn't really an option since they basically have two bases worth of resources with 50k per patch. Although noobs often realize that and therefore never expand, so in response it is funny just go to straight to 4-5 base and then roflstomp them.
Also total Terran imbalance because you can perfect wall at every single position and just turtle the entire game.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
FASTEST MAP EVER is betteR!! :D
j/k.
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Wait East channel is now consolidation?
I remember when it was motel...
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Though I'd disagree that the BGH population wasn't notably hurt by SC2, the BGH community is definitely still active alongside people playing Fastest (though can't really say they have a 'community', as far as I know). BGH players are definitely the most eccentric of the BW scene. If I were to make a random comparison, I'd say "low money" would be the track where professional (or wannabe pro) racers practice, while BGH is the streets where the cool kids hang out, do crazy stuff and generally just hang out and chill together.
I've met so many great people through BGH. IMHO, the veteran BGHers seem more relaxed and have 'I play for fun and to have a good time' attitude than the veteran "low money" attitude of 'I gotta polish off this build order and my micro or I won't improve as fast as everyone else is'. Of course there's always the bad apples of every scene that ruin it for the rest.
Cue rant + Show Spoiler +The thing about BGH is the freedom for creativity and self-expressive playstyle. Some innys might get extremely competitive but overall there's plenty of room (I'd say more than "low money") for messing around (more in 3v3s and 4v4s of course). For those that love cheese, BGH is full of cheese. So many kinds of cheese and combinations of cheese that any furry rodent would immediately faint. At the same time there remains a skill level needed to win consistently (and of course teammates with similar skill level), so it isn't as easy as a lot of "low money" elitists would think. Each individual, as long as he is capable of rebuilding, has exponential potential if given the chance. Map imbalances add a sort of 'controlled luck' into the mix, where disadvantageous can be advantageous depending on a player's/team's ability and playing style. For example, + Show Spoiler +your opponents spawn 11 & 12 o clock positions, you and your buddy spawn 9 & 1 o clock. You know your opponents prefer turtling so you and your partner immediately agree to expand aggressively. You deny your opponents from scouting. They attempt to break out mid-game either with a push or drops but you are prepared and deny them while building up your economy. By the time your opponents come out with mass Guardians+CorsairsWithWeb, or Carriers+Battlecruisers, etc, you've already secured the entire map, maxed, have five digits of each resource in the bank, and enough production buildings to replenish your army without queue. GG. The theorycrafting is endless, and you can actually put a lot of that theorycrafting into starcrafting. I've been playing BGH for as long as I've been playing BW. I originally started with fastest with a bunch of guys from my school then went to "blizz maps" and avoided BGH. For a while I played the 6 players map New Gettysburg exclusively. Eventually I met a bunch of really cool people on BGH and got hooked. I tried some WGT, PGT, iCCup but BGH had my heart. The people I met on BGH were just so fascinating. Each had a unique playing style that I could synchronize with. Some had ridiculous strategies that somehow worked and resulted in hilarity. Biomech into EMP nuke under 9 minutes, recalling stacked probes, mass hallucinated battlecruisers, mass queens, 35 hatcheries before spawning pool (lost that game though, for obvious reasons... but the point is he managed to make 35 hatcheries before spawning pool!), mind control as a counter to carriers, proxy reavers, offensive wall-ins, optical flare nuke on zergs, sunken pushes, densely packed medic walls, cannon & carriers, winning with only 1 of each unit (except workers (and structures)), mass scouts, stove, slow overlord drops, drawing words on the minimap with buildings (yes, you're not the only one), double town hall at start, giving your opponents vision the whole game, allied mines, eraser, lockdown, paratrooper cities, having an overlord in-base and pretending to go low tech while building tech in ally's base, etc. etc. ... So much fun!!! (I have so much to write)
Anyways, other threads on TL with BGH: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=91389 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83313 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=48517 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=40204 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=35161 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=26289
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Wasn't there a BGH v normal player grudge match a while ago? Some games on normal and some on $. And didn't the normal players throw games? But not in an underhand way. Kind of in a: BGH players deserve respect, this might help them get it. It might have also been player switching. Just a weird memory of mine that popped up. Honestly, I can't remember for sure, so don't take my words as gospel. But if anybody else remembers it better than me, I'd appreciate the refreshing of my memory.
Great post. I really enjoyed it. Unfortunately for me, I never enjoyed the way BGH felt. I was just frustrated. Of course, I'm sure I was playing at noobie BGH level. Still, mass cannons pissed me off so damn much :/
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BGH is pretty darn fun. I think its maps like fastest that are boring though.
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I played thousands of games of BGH/Hunters on West. But then West died and East wasn't all that fun.
I moved to iCCup and I simply never moved back. The level of competition has a whole different, new type of feel in low money, lan lat games. And as a fellow zerg player, it feels nice to finally have muta micro and be the deadlier race in 2x2 games rather than 3x3 BGH.
BGH is hella fun, but it's hard to get back into it when you dont have lan lat. Not a whole lotta people in the BGH community play with #LL via chaos in my experience, and that's recently Good read!
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BGH is the single most fun map in BW. I met all my closest starcraft friends playing BGH, including that newbie who owned the tl-west bot. I know many people consider it a newbie map with newbie players, but trust me, at the highest levels, BGH is very, very demanding of mechanics.
On November 13 2010 13:48 -_- wrote: Wasn't there a BGH v normal player grudge match a while ago? Some games on normal and some on $. And didn't the normal players throw games? But not in an underhand way. Kind of in a: BGH players deserve respect, this might help them get it. It might have also been player switching. Just a weird memory of mine that popped up. Honestly, I can't remember for sure, so don't take my words as gospel. But if anybody else remembers it better than me, I'd appreciate the refreshing of my memory.
Great post. I really enjoyed it. Unfortunately for me, I never enjoyed the way BGH felt. I was just frustrated. Of course, I'm sure I was playing at noobie BGH level. Still, mass cannons pissed me off so damn much :/
Nobody threw any games. One of the 2/2 BGH teams wanted to switch players because two of them were friends and wanted to play together. Obviously this was allowed to happen, and they ended up winning. Subsequent to games one of the guys who lost to this BGH team threw up a fuss that the final team names had been deliberately withheld to give the BGHers a better chance of winning, which obviously wasn't the case. Thankfully not many people believed it to be so, so after a bit of arguing, the matter was buried.
There was more arguing before the games about how the BGHers would play though.
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Now that I think about it, I remember a lot of tiny arguments going on simultaneously both before and after the games. I think a couple of mods had to step in to calm things down, lol.
I think all BGH vs Normal map matches have been followed by at least some disputes. Other than the grudge match you remember, the Testie vs Koolam series also had some aftermath on tl.net. And the time when nony/idra/skew played in some BGH tournament and lost to Hdn in the finals also resulted in several angry comments.
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Croatia9362 Posts
On November 13 2010 12:41 Wala.Revolution wrote: Wait East channel is now consolidation?
I remember when it was motel... Yeah, it's unofficial consolidation. And couple of years ago, motel was getting constantly attacked by spam bots so we moved to )v( channel.
On November 13 2010 13:27 Not_Computer wrote:Though I'd disagree that the BGH population wasn't notably hurt by SC2, the BGH community is definitely still active alongside people playing Fastest (though can't really say they have a 'community', as far as I know). BGH players are definitely the most eccentric of the BW scene. If I were to make a random comparison, I'd say "low money" would be the track where professional (or wannabe pro) racers practice, while BGH is the streets where the cool kids hang out, do crazy stuff and generally just hang out and chill together. I've met so many great people through BGH. IMHO, the veteran BGHers seem more relaxed and have 'I play for fun and to have a good time' attitude than the veteran "low money" attitude of 'I gotta polish off this build order and my micro or I won't improve as fast as everyone else is'. Of course there's always the bad apples of every scene that ruin it for the rest. Cue rant + Show Spoiler +The thing about BGH is the freedom for creativity and self-expressive playstyle. Some innys might get extremely competitive but overall there's plenty of room (I'd say more than "low money") for messing around (more in 3v3s and 4v4s of course). For those that love cheese, BGH is full of cheese. So many kinds of cheese and combinations of cheese that any furry rodent would immediately faint. At the same time there remains a skill level needed to win consistently (and of course teammates with similar skill level), so it isn't as easy as a lot of "low money" elitists would think. Each individual, as long as he is capable of rebuilding, has exponential potential if given the chance. Map imbalances add a sort of 'controlled luck' into the mix, where disadvantageous can be advantageous depending on a player's/team's ability and playing style. For example, + Show Spoiler +your opponents spawn 11 & 12 o clock positions, you and your buddy spawn 9 & 1 o clock. You know your opponents prefer turtling so you and your partner immediately agree to expand aggressively. You deny your opponents from scouting. They attempt to break out mid-game either with a push or drops but you are prepared and deny them while building up your economy. By the time your opponents come out with mass Guardians+CorsairsWithWeb, or Carriers+Battlecruisers, etc, you've already secured the entire map, maxed, have five digits of each resource in the bank, and enough production buildings to replenish your army without queue. GG. The theorycrafting is endless, and you can actually put a lot of that theorycrafting into starcrafting. I've been playing BGH for as long as I've been playing BW. I originally started with fastest with a bunch of guys from my school then went to "blizz maps" and avoided BGH. For a while I played the 6 players map New Gettysburg exclusively. Eventually I met a bunch of really cool people on BGH and got hooked. I tried some WGT, PGT, iCCup but BGH had my heart. The people I met on BGH were just so fascinating. Each had a unique playing style that I could synchronize with. Some had ridiculous strategies that somehow worked and resulted in hilarity. Biomech into EMP nuke under 9 minutes, recalling stacked probes, mass hallucinated battlecruisers, mass queens, 35 hatcheries before spawning pool (lost that game though, for obvious reasons... but the point is he managed to make 35 hatcheries before spawning pool!), mind control as a counter to carriers, proxy reavers, offensive wall-ins, optical flare nuke on zergs, sunken pushes, densely packed medic walls, cannon & carriers, winning with only 1 of each unit (except workers (and structures)), mass scouts, stove, slow overlord drops, drawing words on the minimap with buildings (yes, you're not the only one), double town hall at start, giving your opponents vision the whole game, allied mines, eraser, lockdown, paratrooper cities, having an overlord in-base and pretending to go low tech while building tech in ally's base, etc. etc. ... So much fun!!! (I have so much to write) Anyways, other threads on TL with BGH: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=91389http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83313http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=48517http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=40204http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=35161http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=26289 Very nice post. Yeah, I might've been overly optimistic when I said SC2 didn't hurt us that much, because obviously it took away a lot of players. But on the other end, I wasn't lying when I said there are more innys being played now than few years ago. Practically, everyone's innying now (remember my link to several levels of "innys"), where few years ago only TOP players would inny and everyone else would play public games.
Oh and, nice of you to include links to most of the BGH threads here, but you left out the ones with most drama, but I guess it's better to keep those buried -.-
On November 13 2010 17:47 Gandalf wrote: Now that I think about it, I remember a lot of tiny arguments going on simultaneously both before and after the games. I think a couple of mods had to step in to calm things down, lol.
I think all BGH vs Normal map matches have been followed by at least some disputes. Other than the grudge match you remember, the Testie vs Koolam series also had some aftermath on tl.net. And the time when nony/idra/skew played in some BGH tournament and lost to Hdn in the finals also resulted in several angry comments. Yeah, Testie and Koolam was a showmatch where Testie won 4-3 on low maps and like 4-1(or 0) on BGH if I recall correctly. Ironically it was more close on low maps than on BGH -.- I think I still have those reps so if anyone wants, I can post them.
And yeah, that nony/idra/skew tournament led to a huge drama after the games. If anyone wants see the reps of finals, between Media and hDn (best BGH clan) here they are: Winners Bracket Finals: http://www.thebgh.com/component/replays?view=replay&id=554 Game 1 http://www.thebgh.com/component/replays?view=replay&id=555 Game 2 http://www.thebgh.com/component/replays?view=replay&id=556 Game 3 Grand Finals: http://www.thebgh.com/component/replays?view=replay&id=557 Game 1 http://www.thebgh.com/component/replays?view=replay&id=558 Game 2
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The only reason I ever started playing normal 1v1 maps is because I heard that playing there can increase your skill, and I wanted to get better at bgh heh. I think starting at bgh is the best way to start playing BW and then move to low maps if you want, its certainly a lot of fun.
I miss getting together with 2 of my rl friends and just playing bgh, I dont think il ever have as much fun as when we just started our team, all 3 of us terrans, every game was fun, never boring or anything, I would literally not be able to sleep from being so excited over playing the next day.
Ah the good days, now my innocence is gone and I dont know if il ever feel that way about a game again
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BGH is a lot of fun, used to play it all the time on europe. I'm using ICCup's version of bw now though, can't get on east
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I've had some great memories on that map haha....
playing zerg and just expanding my creep to take over the entire map.... creep is seriously sexy
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Day9 made his BEST daily ever about BGH, so fucking funny, and in my eyes even beats his Combat ex commentary :D
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3535320
edit: ever since i saw this "I got this" is and expresion i use all the time, and all my firends now use it too
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Canada10904 Posts
Hm, was on the channel for awhile, but all the games are advertised as experts only/ no noobs. Being only D- on iccup, I'm hesitant to joining these game in case I'm that annoying newb that keeps trying to join high level games.
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How is the hunters (low) scene holding up? Played loads until beta when all my friends switched. Now I play a little of both. Not that easy to find games on bnet anymore. Still teaching a friend to play P on hunters.
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Don't worry about it Falling, D- on ICCUP is like A+ on BGH!
jk~! ^_^
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On November 14 2010 06:13 Falling wrote: Hm, was on the channel for awhile, but all the games are advertised as experts only/ no noobs. Being only D- on iccup, I'm hesitant to joining these game in case I'm that annoying newb that keeps trying to join high level games. making game '3v3 bgh expert' on uswest doesn't really mean experts will join the game...that game has same skill level as game called '3v3 bgh come' it's amazing how some people think they are expert when they are below average bgh forever tho..plan to go back to bw after i enjoy some LoL games...sc2 is dying on me T.T
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Canada10904 Posts
Maybe... I just not very familiar with the BGH culture/ expectations. On USwest, every time I tried to join a many player map, I tended to get booted or banned. Not sure why, maybe my 0-0 record? I'm not really interested in having that happen again on the )v( channel.
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I grew up on this stuff So many great memories playing 3on3! It was all any pubs would join, so kind of had no choice, but still was tons of fun.
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On November 13 2010 07:04 swanized wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 06:54 BroOd wrote:On November 13 2010 06:47 the-Undermind wrote: BGH is pretty noob IMO, but man there are some fun BGH games! :D This is kind of an ignorant statement. BGH is just a map. There are good BGHers and noob BGHers, and some of the good BGHers are very solid BW players. Day[9] played BGH a lot if I recall O_O
theres this legendary daily of this bgh 2v2v2v2 he came back from. quite good, I highly recommend it.
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On November 14 2010 07:01 Eatme wrote: How is the hunters (low) scene holding up? Played loads until beta when all my friends switched. Now I play a little of both. Not that easy to find games on bnet anymore. Still teaching a friend to play P on hunters.
There are always innies going on in Asia server (hunters kespa only) Don't even need to know korean Brood War Ladder = always 90+ players spamming game name
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I think the main reason is that it's a team map and people prefer team games to join for recreation because it's much more laid back. As you see on various servers people love FASTEST and SUPER maps as well. (Hunters are VERY popular on asia and west and seemingly never die).
I did always wish that they popularized other 3v3 4v4 maps that were more complex and/or balanced, however, since it didn't happen we will have to manage with BGH.
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BGH actually helps your macro. =)
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BGH was my childhood Love this map to death. There is nothing like 3v3ing with your friends and screaming your head off while you backstab each other hahaha
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I don't agree that BGH is what kept the community together.. though imo.
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On November 14 2010 10:58 DraPa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:01 Eatme wrote: How is the hunters (low) scene holding up? Played loads until beta when all my friends switched. Now I play a little of both. Not that easy to find games on bnet anymore. Still teaching a friend to play P on hunters. There are always innies going on in Asia server (hunters kespa only) Don't even need to know korean Brood War Ladder = always 90+ players spamming game name I had a little difficulti actually getting games there. Many games were in hangul for gamename or pass. And then you have a bit of yellow lag when you join too.
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Its a great map to try weird shit on. Specially as Terran, when you can have P or Z allies taking the early agression and turtle with a few tanks and mines on your base.
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Oh the memories. I loved to play BGH when I used to play BW
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I used to really like playing BGH (As well as Hunters on StarCraft 64 :p), but having not played BW games actively for so long, I've been worried about getting into games and getting called out on being useless . But now that you say the community is generally good mannered, maybe I can give it a shot. They must have some 3v3 @ BGH NOOBS ONLY still .
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dont worry, on iccup the BGH is the sort of "outcasts" anyway, the people stuck between the cogs of life, unable to keep up with the rest. All slightly challenged, so to speak, in capability in relation to the other players. Not to insult, as im part of that secret society
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On November 17 2010 02:18 xarthaz wrote: dont worry, on iccup the BGH is the sort of "outcasts" anyway, the people stuck between the cogs of life, unable to keep up with the rest. All slightly challenged, so to speak, in capability in relation to the other players. Not to insult, as im part of that secret society What? A lot of the people who play in the BGH community have been above C, some even reaching B- and B.
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Lol well i havent seen any of those Pro's then at least. Last game my teammates went mass corsairs(and no, he didnt make any reavers or robo tech at all. only ever made 1 gate, lol) and 1 gas carriers. Needless to say, i didnt do so well when the push arrived at my base lol
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I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.
Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun.
FMP is really fun when you get to learn the builds too, nothing beats macroing from 20 raxs and trying to micro them at the same time too, its just crazy fun.
On November 13 2010 12:10 ePalm wrote: Some strategies on BGH just don't work like they do in low money maps, so that is why it is called a noob map. For example, starving your opponent isn't really an option since they basically have two bases worth of resources with 50k per patch. Although noobs often realize that and therefore never expand, so in response it is funny just go to straight to 4-5 base and then roflstomp them.
Also total Terran imbalance because you can perfect wall at every single position and just turtle the entire game.
Play low money Hunters and starvation is a valid tactic. I remember one memorable time i had as Zerg, which is hard to begin with, winning against TPP by simpy denying expansions for about 20 minutes until they gave up.
On November 13 2010 13:27 Not_Computer wrote: Though I'd disagree that the BGH population wasn't notably hurt by SC2, the BGH community is definitely still active alongside people playing Fastest (though can't really say they have a 'community', as far as I know). BGH players are definitely the most eccentric of the BW scene. If I were to make a random comparison, I'd say "low money" would be the track where professional (or wannabe pro) racers practice, while BGH is the streets where the cool kids hang out, do crazy stuff and generally just hang out and chill together.
You heard of VGT? Fastest definitely has a community, even a very popular ladder that run for 20+ seasons with upto 30k games played in them (although they say this one is the last one ) Hacking is unfortunately what is ruining pub games of it, the only hope is to play against VGT people (channel Clash on USWest usually iirc).
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On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote: I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.
Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun. I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching?
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BW is in desperate need of patching.
What?
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On November 17 2010 04:46 xarthaz wrote: Lol well i havent seen any of those Pro's then at least. Last game my teammates went mass corsairs(and no, he didnt make any reavers or robo tech at all. only ever made 1 gate, lol) and 1 gas carriers. Needless to say, i didnt do so well when the push arrived at my base lol
Didn't you see the reps where idra and nony got smashed on bgh by some top bgh players? And yea, if you play pubs of course you're gonna get new players in the game...
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On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote: I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.
Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun. I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching? The 1t2t, to be specific. Combining it with the firing angles has made BW incredibly imbalanced.
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On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote: I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.
Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun. I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching?
Mineral hack, various lobby hacks (you can be kicked out of your OWN game with one of them), spawn 500 drone hacks, make any unit you like invincible, nuke anywhere works again, drophack that cannot be stopped by protection. Someone suggested theres a hack which makes yout units kill themselves i cannot confirm or deny this, but the others i know 100% are true.
Plus now BWHF doesn't let you check players in lobby without a donation... so i literally cannot even avoid autominers/auto requeue and the other obvious hacks anymore. I was playing public BGH/FMP every day till that happened. Don't you think this is worthy of patching? Even automining and multicommand could be easily fixed if they could be bothered.
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On November 17 2010 05:52 BroOd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote: I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.
Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun. I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching? The 1t2t, to be specific. Combining it with the firing angles has made BW incredibly imbalanced. Yeah, this is the source of Surfer's true powers. I bet he even made all his passwords with that combination allowing him to log in on any website in matter of nanoseconds. Once, he crashed our whole site because he typed in his password too fast.
On November 17 2010 06:02 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote: I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.
Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun. I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching? Mineral hack, various lobby hacks (you can be kicked out of your OWN game with one of them), spawn 500 drone hacks, make any unit you like invincible, nuke anywhere works again, drophack that cannot be stopped by protection. Someone suggested theres a hack which makes yout units kill themselves i cannot confirm or deny this, but the others i know 100% are true. Plus now BWHF doesn't let you check players in lobby without a donation... so i literally cannot even avoid autominers/auto requeue and the other obvious hacks anymore. I was playing public BGH/FMP every day till that happened. Don't you think this is worthy of patching? Even automining and multicommand could be easily fixed if they could be bothered. I see where is the problem. You can't play public games on Bnet and expect a fair game. But this is also sometimes the fun part. You play a public game with friends crushing hackers with weird tactics which makes it more challengeable. Until they drop hack you that is.
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I'd like to organize some bgh with some of you guys one day. Would be fun...
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On November 17 2010 06:02 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote: I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.
Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun. I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching? Mineral hack, various lobby hacks (you can be kicked out of your OWN game with one of them), spawn 500 drone hacks, make any unit you like invincible, nuke anywhere works again, drophack that cannot be stopped by protection. Someone suggested theres a hack which makes yout units kill themselves i cannot confirm or deny this, but the others i know 100% are true. Plus now BWHF doesn't let you check players in lobby without a donation... so i literally cannot even avoid autominers/auto requeue and the other obvious hacks anymore. I was playing public BGH/FMP every day till that happened. Don't you think this is worthy of patching? Even automining and multicommand could be easily fixed if they could be bothered. Most of these hacks you mentioned have been patched, or never existed. The only hacks that are working currently are lobby hack (host hack), drop hack, multicommand, spoof, map, lag hack, and build anywhere hack. The rest are a figment of your imagination. Maybe to solve your bwhf conundrum you should donate to dakota, he spent 10k + hours developing bwhf, and continues to this day to pay the monthly bills for the equipment that makes bwhf work (even though he doesn't even play bw anymore).
Furthermore as pac stated, playing private games formed in the channel )v( on east are 98% hack free. And much higher in skill and more enjoyable granted you avoid a a select few trolls.
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Public was fine before BWHF was donation only though, and the hacks at this point at too ridiculous to even play against. Its got out of hand imo.
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You already said this. I'll summarize what I said to solve this dilemma: 1. Donate to BWHF, or 2. Don't play public.
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YES! <3 This is awesome. I started playing maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago and I got hooked on BGH. I even tried to search for some recent BGH thread I've seen on the forums but it couldn't find it 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 it doesn't matter, they all kick ass if you have decently balanced teams (skillwise) and it can make for really fun games :D
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It's always strange to hear the phrase "low money maps," when that is in fact, the normal way to play the game.
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I remember when I was in middle school, I played BGH with my friends and turtled up more than Flash. Good times.
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On November 17 2010 08:38 rich- wrote: You already said this. I'll summarize what I said to solve this dilemma: 1. Donate to BWHF, or 2. Don't play public.
I already plan to donate actually, but it's a sad situation to be in where you literally cannot play a public game because of hackers in almost every game. Even WITH bwhf it's not foolproof. It's not even as simple as just 'don't play public' anyway... unless you spend some time hanging around in some channels and being a part of the community. I'd love to jump onto bnet, join the first game i see and have fun and to be honest it's being ruined and puts me off even bothering.
Surely having a single coder patch a few things wouldn't be so fucking hard for Blizzard to do if they really do mean anything they ever say about 'supporting' the game.
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BGH is a fun map You can play with anybody specially noobs so its never a good idea to take it seriously And because of that I always play terran so I can BC rush and pwnd everyone !! or maybe even nuke !! 60% if d times I have a good time in this map specially with NUKES kekeke
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Oh man the memories. Hoping I was at either the 11:00 or 12:00 position and that the other position was empty so I could FE there! yes, I used to FE on BGH. If the position was occupied by an enemy, I'd CHEESE THE SHIT out of them and then take their base. Then I'd be on the equivalent of 4 "normal map" bases (5 if I felt like taking the in-between one) and just turtle up and skyrocket to 200/200 while MAAAAAAYBE reaver drop harassing but probably just spamming the shit out of units. before doing some epic recalling
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I thought TL was a low money 1v1 forum o.0
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On November 17 2010 15:10 SubPointOA wrote: I thought TL was a low money 1v1 forum o.0 It's ok, when I first came here I thought TL was an online dating service.
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On saturday I'm going to play some hunters, yaay. I force my friends to play with me as a birthday gift every year. Thats how much I love playing hunters. Before sc2 we played alot even when I did not have a birthday so this year feels a little bit special.
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On November 17 2010 10:27 therockmanxx wrote: BGH is a fun map You can play with anybody specially noobs so its never a good idea to take it seriously And because of that I always play terran so I can BC rush and pwnd everyone !! or maybe even nuke !! 60% if d times I have a good time in this map specially with NUKES kekeke Wow, spot on. Thanks for posting.
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BGH is fun to do you + 2 friends vs 3 random public players.
You can do retarded shit like 1fac vulture expo into 5port wraith into nukes and still win without breaking a sweat, haha.
I'd imagine that on higher levels of play, it would break down into a lot of tier 1/tier 1.5 rushing and teaming up, as is the nature of the game on low money maps.
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I started playing public games like you suggested. About my 10th game, I was called a hacker for 1a2a3a4a5a6aing my 200 supply army... Not sure if I should be proud of that or not.
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Haha wow, amazing grudgematch.
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On November 19 2010 03:19 mrblue182 wrote: I started playing public games like you suggested. About my 10th game, I was called a hacker for 1a2a3a4a5a6aing my 200 supply army... Not sure if I should be proud of that or not.
The funniest is when you get called a hacker and then get drop hacked by the same person.
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Really entertaining showmatch, loser took it incredibly well IMO. Was expecting some serious flaming o_o
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amazing. absolutely amazing.
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Played some BGHs today on east. It's funny seeing how much I used to suck back then before I knew about iccup and how much easier it is to win some random games.
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Yeah the public games are kinda fun but the really fun games are the ones when the players at least have basic knowledge of team play strategies. Because channel )v( @east has all levels of bgh players, depending on the skill of the opponents we try to get away with the most ridiculous strategy and still win. In games often we open with defense straight to some drop tech or air strat. And depending on their level we might have only one player employ this strat or all. Ofc playing serious vs other players when needed. But incorporating fun strats makes low level bgh games a lot more entertaining.
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lol i played this a few weeks ago and was stuck @ 9 supply with zerg because I kept pressing "v" for overlord instead of "o". LOL... i got really behind haha.
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Another fun strat is joining vs pub stomper teams [from )v( ] with one friend, then doing defensive opening with a strong midgame strategy. Usually to leave the nub pub to die and play 2v3 which is sometimes more fun than a serious private game. Its always the most fun when you and your friend get 11/12 6/7 or get a terran at 9 and other at 6 or 7 so he can cover the choke with tanks.
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this stuff is pure win lol
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surfer is so entertaining "on iccup i beat idra 1-0, they told me after it was him" "i could sense his energy, he was fuckin strong...i played really sloppy, if i'd placed my spider mines correctly i would've thoroughly raped him" brood must've really been holding himself back in that interview
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On November 20 2010 01:56 aimaimaim wrote:this stuff is pure win lol Surfer4life: seriously, im glad u caught this, because it just goes to show a kitchen knife could b in front of a potential killer, but he doesnt even look at the knife, ever, he can simply kill with his bare hands.
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On November 20 2010 03:54 2Pacalypse- wrote:Surfer4life: seriously, im glad u caught this, because it just goes to show a kitchen knife could b in front of a potential killer, but he doesnt even look at the knife, ever, he can simply kill with his bare hands.
Lol such a great nonsensical quote.
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This is a placeholder, so the next post is on the new page. I'm sure you understand the importance of this.
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#2 UPDATEBGH Mega Replay Pack
I thought this thread was a little "dry" without any replays, so I decided to post this replay pack of mine that I've been making for the past 7-8 months. Yes I'm that slow. I went over a 4,000 replays that I had saved in my autoreplays folder from the last 2 years, and chose this 213 replays to guarantee you the best viewing experience. The criteria on which I chose the replays was that it had to be at least 15 minutes long game. Of course I didn't watch all 4,000 replays, but I watched every replay over 15 minutes long (Thank you ReXplorer, the best SC tool ever!). Out of those, I chose those that are enjoyable to watch and those where I didn't get humiliated too much. There are also some replays that are shorter than 15 minutes, but they were exciting with good players so I included them as well. Oh, I failed to mention that these are all top level BGH inny games, so in case you were looking for public Carrier or BC rush, I'm afraid you're out of luck.
Players featured in these replays are considered the best BGH players and here's the list of the more known players (AKA's included):
kural - kOOlam, hDn.Zorr0, BaboToss Merf - GuanoApe, hDn.Superman, PradBitt, ObiSchwan, JackCooper, SmurFish, SpeziisSpitze Infernal - mTwAMD.iNfeRnaL, ~HF~Peacemaker, Peacy HnR)Insane - HelpImDying, Malini, Gowan, Mad[E] 2Pacalypse- - hDn.Wolverine, Mr.Eko, LeO-Da-VinCi, ReachPride A)Fallen(Templa - OhDaeSu xiOngLa - lalaland easternPROTOSS - lungo Ireland - Netherlands
Ok, there are plenty more, but I don't feel like going through the list of players anymore...
I almost forgot, you can DOWNLOAD the replay pack here:
Mirror 1: http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/2Pacalypse/replays/BGHreps.zip Mirror 2: http://www.mediafire.com/?wccl41c6wik0lm1
+ Show Spoiler [BONUS] +As a bonus, here are a few of my FPVODs, so you can see in first person how the BGH inny games looks like (advising to watch on youtube, as the vids look distorted here):
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Haha 2pac I'm watching some of your FPvods ^^
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These will be good fun to watch with resolution hack :D I hope they work with the current patch
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Bumping for the fact BGH is awesome, and so is FMP with skilled players.
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i'm was a big 3s player, never been fan of bgh but played many, many hunters.
this seriously makes me want to play some old school bw ^_^
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i think my record is 50-1800-20
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ah what a good BGH thread. I wish I was at home in LA so I could dl your rep pack. One week without any BGH games is killing me. I dont think ive ever gone more than 1 week without a bgh game in like 10 years.... crazy! and like they all said; it NEVER gets old Seeya guys soon. oh fyi im aka Ireland/Netherlands/a million other nation ids lol
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#3 UPDATE
BGH FPVODs
Here are a few FPVODs of BGH games. I recommend watching them on Youtube page (or in fullscreen) because TL doesn't embed them in widescreen ^^ If any vid is restricted in your country for whatever reasons, there's a megaupload link below them so you can download them if you really want to see them.
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Thanks 2pac for all the work! Are all the reps above 1.16? Just curious.
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No, some are on older version, but I watched all of them and they weren't bugged.
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After seeing the Fun/Casual Maps Shared Base Database thread i wanted to watch some BGH high lvl action but the lins are dead :
kural - kOOlam, hDn.Zorr0, BaboToss Merf - GuanoApe, hDn.Superman, PradBitt, ObiSchwan, JackCooper, SmurFish, SpeziisSpitze Infernal - mTwAMD.iNfeRnaL, ~HF~Peacemaker, Peacy HnR)Insane - HelpImDying, Malini, Gowan, Mad[E] 2Pacalypse- - hDn.Wolverine, Mr.Eko, LeO-Da-VinCi, ReachPride A)Fallen(Templa - OhDaeSu xiOngLa - lalaland easternPROTOSS - lungo Ireland - Netherlands
Ok, there are plenty more, but I don't feel like going through the list of players anymore...
I almost forgot, you can DOWNLOAD the replay pack here:
Mirror 1: http://www.mediafire.com/?9hkzzo8cz7y1v45 Mirror 2: [url blocked]
Can anyone upload them pls? BGH forever people
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My HDD crashed like half a year ago so I don't have them either anymore
If anyone still has this replay pack saved, it would be greatly appreciated if you could kindly upload it somewhere.
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On February 11 2012 07:25 2Pacalypse- wrote:My HDD crashed like half a year ago so I don't have them either anymore If anyone still has this replay pack saved, it would be greatly appreciated if you could kindly upload it somewhere.
Damn HDDs Bad luck man. Hope someone else has them and more importantly is willing to upload them.
Edit: I also tried to dl the Ribbon Classic reps to see how the hell the game will look like without the BW units and upgrades, but to no avail - reps were gone in the repsective threads.
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Dude .. I'm not on the list ... thanks for this thread. We played BGH in several leagues for some years. It was a niche but so much fun. 3vs3 BGH was the main reason to keep on playing.
Edit: Your mirrors are down
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ah i miss playing bgh at the local pc bang with my friends. so much fun, especially if there is an upset
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Yay !! Thank you so much 2Pacalypse
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BGH....probably one of two, the other being Lost Temple, maps that Blizzard made that had any impact on the scene.
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#4 UPDATE
After nine months of downtime due to various reasons, I've finally brought back http://www.thebgh.com/ site with all of the content still intact. Still trying to get the replays module working again, but if you find the BGH interesting, you can check it out regardless. Have fun.
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On December 24 2013 01:37 2Pacalypse- wrote:#4 UPDATEAfter nine months of downtime due to various reasons, I've finally brought back http://www.thebgh.com/ site with all of the content still intact. Still trying to get the replays module working again, but if you find the BGH interesting, you can check it out regardless. Have fun.
cool o.o
Anyone wanna team up and bash some pubs?
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On December 24 2013 01:49 ninazerg wrote:
cool o.o
Anyone wanna team up and bash some pubs?
I am tempted to take you up on this. Been a while since I played some BGH.
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my heart jumped, seeing this topic bumped nina add me, aellyn on east maybe late tonight? (unless you're on irc)
2pac ill msg u when i can play for games awww yeah
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On December 24 2013 02:55 intrigue wrote: my heart jumped, seeing this topic bumped nina add me, aellyn on east maybe late tonight? (unless you're on irc)
2pac ill msg u when i can play for games awww yeah
5sd6sd7sd 1a2u3a4cccw 1t2t1a2a3a4o5i6m7m8m0s9s lol we haven't played in months, i really miss it
hopefully you don't message me at like 5am my time as usual...
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Every time I bgh my team lets me down.
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On December 24 2013 05:03 intrigue wrote:if you are the one constant in a sea of variable teammates and the result is always the same, perhaps your interpretation of this experiment isn't entirely accurate That sounds to reasonable to be true. My apm is too high to blame me.
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On December 24 2013 02:55 intrigue wrote: my heart jumped, seeing this topic bumped nina add me, aellyn on east maybe late tonight? (unless you're on irc)
2pac ill msg u when i can play for games awww yeah
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Late at night? US East? Awwww yeahhhhh
1a2a3a4a5a gonnaaaa playyyy protosssss
We can make our IDs anything we want, but for general purposes, my ID on East is Minx
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lol. this could potentially be fun...
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on now for an hour or so, cant stay long til later tonight. come come
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i'm on USeast. msg me, my username is T-REX-ATTACK.
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Yo Lid, lets play. I'm in channel "trix" because of the damn spam bots in )v(
anyone else wanting to join msg me or t-rex
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x and op dash- are usually safe from the bots.
I bet you could get some bgh games from channel As, too, but you'll have to talk them into it.
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As is full of bots as well now.
Doesn't really matter, public game fills up pretty fast which actually surprised me. Still lots of noobs though. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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so does anyone still play BGH? BGH and FMP were my favourite maps back when I used to play with friends and on US West(or east), forgot which one lol.
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90% of the people are still bad, i just play on iccup and kick anyone who has shitty stats, usually makes a much better game lol
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hoping the bgh community comes back for 1.18, would be nice to have a place to play some high lvl inhouse games.
afaik channel )v( has some decent activity on east right now
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I think it'll come back. I've already seen some people bragging about being "undefeated", and that competitive attitude drives people to play.
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I think it's coming back. I reinstalled after years just recently for 1.18 and already been playing with some old friends. I've also seen a handful of bgh players I used to play with many years ago. I think it will continue to grow especially with remastered.
We just need everyone to come to )v( and continue to get some ggs.
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Is anyone playing these days @ EU?
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Yes Eu Plays BGH some good old Guys playing :D
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should recreate the old BGH channel on EU again.. channel z4 <3
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whatever happpened to racewars? :[
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still here, btw there was a 256x256 version of BGH, does anyone still have it?
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Sorry to bump this oldish thread, I was wondering if any of my old friends and old bghers are still playing, and where / when do they do that?
I enjoy SC2 less and less, and so I was trying to get some BGH games yesterday, and was surprised how easy it was to get BGH games and how enjoyable and fun they were.
My skills are of course not on the level they used to be, but if anyone is still playing or is interested in getting back to BGH, let's play some good games I'm Dakota_Fanning on almost all servers, hit me up.
P.S. The old channels seem to be extinct, are there any new meeting places? I know about the old ones: )v( @ USWest, motel @ USEast, brood war bgh @ Europe.
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Hey Dakota!
I still play, very rarely though. From what I can tell, )v( @ USWest is still a meeting place, although most of the times (especially in the European hours) it's empty. No idea about european BGH scene though and if anyone still plays from the old guard there.
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Good to know. I can also play only rarely, but hopefully we'll meet again.
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Does anyone still play? Miss this game lots.. Any good players remaining?
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I rarely play bgh but I always see at least a few bghs created in custom games (on eu gateway), so yes. I don't know if there is a discord and such for coordination/others. (Unfortunately the colour change messed things up a little, and I know some people who stopped playing bgh because of that (including me).)
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The 3v3 bgh players usually hangout in channel: )v( on USWest
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I still play BGH, it is my hobbie nowadays, in the city which I live many friends play in BGH.
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What city is that? I might move there.
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